Why does it bother Alan and Gillian that Celia reads The Daily Mail? I'm guessing that it is because of its political slant. I'm not familiar with UK politics. Tory and Labour have no meaning for me. But I could be wrong and that might not be the reason for their dismay. So what's wrong with The Daily Mail?
Thanks.
This was discussed a while ago:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216156/board/thread/220996367
I am US, so I am just going by ithe DM's reputation online as a flashy tabloid, with sensationalized headlines and sappy, overly dramatized human interest stories. Alan reads The Guardian which - (again going by online rep) - is more hard news, high brow journalism with a liberal slant.
Person above - your link goes to an IMdB navigation menu page. I just started watching this show this week so I am up for rehashing old discussions. It's the way it is nowadays. People are watching things on their own time, not on some network's schedule.
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Don't know why that discussion's linking to the general board page. It's on page 3 on this show's board, anyway.
shareI just started watching this show this week so I am up for rehashing old discussions. It's the way it is nowadays. People are watching things on their own time, not on some network's schedule.
First sirjeremy didn't provide a good link. Second, whenever I go poking around old threads, someone in there always spoils some part of the story, so I try to avoid old threads.
It is common on the Downton Abbey board where the Brits discuss the season top to toe in early fall,the the Americans take over the board and start up the same discussions in the winter.
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That's why I started a new thread to ask my question; I was afraid to page back for fear I would stumble upon some spoilers. They do show up in thread titles some times, especially if a character dies.
I did try the link provided and hit the navigation page. So I did take a chance, paged back and carefully found the old thread.
Thanks Redart27!
The macro theme is that in the UK (at least historically, less so now with the world reading papers online), you were defined by the newspaper you read on a daily basis.
It defined your class, your educational level, even whether you were a "northerner" or a "southerner."
I took it as an older gentlemen from two generations prior, noticing what newspaper Celia was reading, because he was used to having that be a way to make a judgment about her.
It was meant I think to be a comment on their ages and also to be a bit humorous for the viewer.
This cultural identification in the past within UK society vis-a-vis newpapers was encapsulated back in the 1980s in a tv show where a character summed it all up, and shows how each paper had its "audience."
The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country;
The Times is read by people who actually do run the country;
The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country;
The Financial Times is read by people who own the country;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country;
And The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
The Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits. [Hint: Page 3]
^ lol, excellent. We could do that with newspapers in US
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As someone retired from almost 30 years at a "major US newspaper," I'd agree!
We could do some classifications in the US, though our papers never were 100% "class" oriented the way things are done in the UK, where "one's class" defines everything from where you live, how you speak and even whether or not you put your milk into your tea first or after when you pour your tea or coffee!
I was in NYC this past weekend, and had at least 3 papers on the table in the coffee shop at one time reading them all---the NY Post, The NY Times and the Wall Street Journal.
I would have sorely confused Alan with my choice of papers! LOL
Perhaps your opinions should be expressed in the past tense: the rigid class structure as shown by such things as how you speak or where you live is surely changing.
shareThe TV show this is from is Yes Prime Minister and I think it was an episode from the second season.
The late great Paul Eddington as Prime Minister James Hacker recites all the above through The Daily Telegraph and then Sir Humphrey asks about the people who read the Sun Hacker responds with the big tits line.
Eddington was great in Good Neighbors as well as Yes Prime Minister and was perfect for British comedies.
I know this has nothing to do with anything, but, goodness, "Yes, Minister/Prime Minister" were wonderful shows. I can still remember my excitement when "Yes, PM" came on as, I think, a Christmas special, a couple of years after "Yes, M" finished, and I realised that it was going to be a whole new lot of episodes.
shareWhat about the Express? (I'm just Curious)
My daughter often tells my 90 year old grandfather off for buying the, as she likes to call it, Daily Heil! He swears he only does because of it's puzzles.
And all that happened was a broken link was provided which then required multiple explanations. Much easier to just answer the question.
shareThe DM is a bit trashy, simple to absorb and very right wing
ie against things like multiculturalism and people on unemployment benefits, things like that.
The Daily Mail is shorthand for reactionary bigotry and ill-informed hatred of anyone who doesn't conform to a very narrow world view. It embodies strident anti-intellectualism and I never fully trust anyone who reads it. Think the type of people who start a sentence with "I'm not a racist BUT..."
shareThat sounds rather like Faux Noise (Fox News) in the US.
Put puppy mills out of business: never buy dogs from pet shops!
People who invent vile and vulgar screen names are completely trashy, not worth listening to, and very left wing.
e.g., They are against things like traditional lives, and jobs, and respect for life, and people being responsible for themselves, and that there are consequences to their actions (such as disdain for vile and vulgar screen names, invented to "shock" since that is very childish).
Or greenegg, as we call it - "Faux News"!
shareI only "got" this distinction because I'd seen it already in the first episode of the BBC's "Sherlock". They are in a news conference about serial suicides and Lestrade makes some crack that "I know you like writing about this stuff" (because it's lurid) and his colleague whispers "Daily Mail!", obviously indicating that they'll skewer him.
Later in the show, some viewers spotted a copy of The Guardian at 221B Baker Street and there was a flurry of protests that the showrunners were leftists or some such thing.
Most Americans wouldn't use papers, but, as someone pointed out, TV news shows, like Faux News, vs MSNBC or PBS, to peg what a person's political leanings were.
I get a huge kick out of the arguments between Celia and Alan over their politics.
-Those we should know elude us. But we can...love without complete understanding.