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Episode 5 spoilers Ahmed's backstory?


So was the woman he slept with his mother? How did she know the lullaby?

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Yes I believe so, I think that's why he killed her afterwards.

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Didn't the Khan have his village slaughtered though, including his parents?

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That's what I thought. I was pretty confused by all of this. Even Ahmeds story when he is telling the "concubine" he says something along the lines of his mother was slaughtered and then he continues to say his mother sings him a song that she wrote. That whole storyline was really out of whack.

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I think in their eagerness to show Ahmed's deceitful side, the writers got carried away and made the story far too convoluted.

The story that makes the most sense is that he slept with his mother, went crazy and killed her because he didn't want anyone to find out, then started telling people that she was dead from the start as a way to further prevent anyone from finding out.

It still doesn't explain a lot of stuff though.

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She looked too young to be his mother?

But I believe all points lead to it being his mother, the fact he killed her didn't make sense as i thought he really loved his mom and missed her? His back story was confusing didn't make sense to me

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In Islam (and all of the Abrahamic religions) it's a serious sin to sleep with one's own mother.

And given the time and place, she could easily be his mother. Women can, and were, married off as soon as they got their period.
Plus, birth rates were substantially higher (no birth control and constant looming death does that), with the average woman having given birth 10 times before death claimed her (not that many children survived all the way to their teenage years, though).
So since this was her first child and only an infant, she could be as little as 12-14 years older than her child. And since denizens of the Mongol empire often got their first job around age 15, he could be a 15-16 year old kid (who's unfortunately played by an older actor) bedding his 27-30 year old mother.

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In Islam (and all of the Abrahamic religions) it's a serious sin to sleep with one's own mother.


Your point? You think other religions consider it normal to sleep with your own mother? Are you joking, or just ignorant?

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In Islam (and all of the Abrahamic religions) it's a serious sin to sleep with one's own mother.
But it's okay with everyone else's religion?

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Im still confused about the fact that she looked the same age as him.

He seemed to be around 20 at the time. Which should make her around 40?

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That's my assumption also.

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This could have been told a bit more clearly. Not good visual storytelling.

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He seemed to be around 20 at the time. Which should make her around 40?


You're using the logic of most modern day societies...If he is around 20 she could be around 33-35.

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That wasn't his mother. The story Ahmed told about the lullaby was fabricated. His real mother was killed during the Mongol conquest, hence his motivation for revenge. The Persian prostitute did have an effect on Ahmed but he killed her because he could have easily abandoned his plan to be in the comfort of what was left of his home.

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I think he'd spent his life believing that she had been killed by the Khan, which gave him his desire to use the tax collector for job to get out of the palace. I think at that point, he was resigned to his life and saddened by the loss of his family but accepting of his new life. When he slept with what was clearly his mother, it instantly showed him that the Khan lied, which stole the tender and loving life-long relationship (without the sex) from both him and his mother, and the accidental sex was insult to injury for him. He killed her to stop her from being used by men, to ease her pain from the loss of her family, to save her from the shame of realization that she'd just slept with her son, and also stop him from having to mentally/emotionally process the fact that was still alive (and that he'd just slept with her).

His drive to kill the Khan was born in earnest after she said 'I wrote it for my baby boy'.

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