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Your favorite season/scenes now that it's almost wrapped up


A lot of great moments in every season but overall I think season 3 was the strongest of this show. It seemed like every character was at their most interesting moment. Daniel's situation with painting the pool and having to live with Amantha. The sheriff was also awesome in that season and he's not had as big of a role in this last season.

Weakest moments of the series for me are the Chloe Gelatto stuff and Daniel's odd story with that shop owner in season 2.

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Season 2 did drag a bit,

season 1 and 3 are my favorites,

although that might change depending on the final episode
1 set up alot of things that were payed off in season 3,
season 4 is sorta its own thing,

what was wrong with the discussion about tragedy and farce?

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The coffee crack scene. 😀😀

Seriously, sexual assault is sexual assault and while Jr didn't deserve it, he was a bully. Period. Interesting response by Daniel.

Also, Sr and Janet in the bath. Mature love with its problems that mature love brings.

Goat-man episode.

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goat man was drip, drip, so it was the coffee episode,
that mozel tov, the mighty destroyer happy unburdening,
daniels speechs in sexual peeling, and a house divided, as well as happy unburdening are my favourite daniel speeches

the scene where jon stern confronts foulkes, and foulkes says "over my dead body"
he made that face so many times it got stuck that way,
i kinda hope daniel gets exhonerated, and when foulkes hears he has a heart attack,
literally over his dead body.

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Seasons 1 and 3 are my favourites.

Season 2 is a bit of a strange beast. It has some of the strongest moments, and some of the weakest. It really improves on repeat viewings, especially the 1st 2 eps. They don't actually drag once you know that Daniel will wake up and be OK, but on 1st watch that is all you think about.

Season 4 doesn't even feel like Rectify. It's just...weird. It feels like the show really ended last season. On the upside, however, the season's dipped quality is letting me down gently and saving me from the sort of heartbreak I felt at the end of Six Feet Under and Breaking Bad. Those 2 went out with a bang, so the emotional attachment to the characters was still very strong.

On Rectify however, this season's loss of previous perfection has alienated me from the show just enough to not care as much and let it go peacefully.

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I think Seasons 1 and 3 are the best too. Season 1 will probably always be the finest, just because it's such an incredibly strong arc, delivered in a near-perfect six episodes (Modern Times is the only S1 hour I wouldn't call a masterpiece, but it's still great). The world and characters are perhaps more compelling in S1, because everything is still new to the viewer and the creators; and the theme of Daniel's wonder at and adjustment to the world is compellingly dramatized whereas the subsequent seasons haven't been quite as focused or centered around any one "theme." S3 is in many ways just as good, though -- really beautiful storytelling and filmmaking and acting, everything is just very streamlined (in a good way) by that point. There's a terrific sense of purpose to both of those seasons, which S2 and probably S4 don't quite achieve.

S2 I agree is messy, mostly for the first two or maybe three episodes. The rest of the season is pretty much outstanding, though, especially from Weird as You to the end. It's kind of the most digressive season, but also the most conventional in the way that it leads to a bruising climax in both the penultimate and final episodes, an ending perhaps more "action-packed," if it can be called that, than is usual for this show.

I really love 4, and expect to rate it very highly unless the finale happens to be a gigantic letdown. It might end up being the weakest season, depending on how great the finale is, but it's still one of the best seasons of TV of recent years. I found Happy Unburdening to be one of the most moving episodes of the show to date, a real tearjerker. I also loved Physics, Pineapples in Paris, A House Divided, and thought Go Ask Roger was a great low-key episode. Yolk and Bob & Carol & Ted Jr & Alice were some of the show's weaker episodes, but for me that's not saying much -- they were still quality. I wouldn't call a single episode of Rectify thus far weak, or even just "okay." Even the more meandering episodes of S2 were still excellent, just not on the god-tier level Rectify usually occupies. In IMDb terms, Rectify's weakest episodes are an 8/10, while the rest of its run earns either a 10/10, or a 9 at worst. And I'm a pretty conservative grader, too.

As for the flaws of S4: I do agree with many that the use of music isn't always as inspired as previously (though I do not believe it is as loud as some say if your settings are calibrated correctly). Compare to the score for S1, which was simply gorgeous and the S4 score sometimes falls short. Also, Daniel feels oddly underused this season. Just a little. I feel we could have seen more from him, he's such a fascinating character and his development and redemption is the most important part of the show; but in a way it almost felt as if A House Divided set up an arc that the rest of the season hasn't followed up on as much as I'd like. Additionally, it's not a huge thing but Billy's character seems almost like a dead-end, even if he is in the finale, just because we haven't seen him since S4E4, Go Ask Roger. Just felt like they were building Amantha's story up more, but then dropped it.

Maybe this season isn't as cohesive as usual because the first four episodes were mostly build-up while the last 4 are all climax and falling action. I liked how Seasons 1 and 3 eschewed this more conventional way of structuring a season of serialized television; they didn't feel so obviously calculated to start off slow and finish with a bang, and almost kept the same beautifully hypnotic, simmering temperature throughout.

Basically it sort of seems like S4, particularly the first half, isn't quite as concisely and smoothly written/structured as earlier seasons, perhaps -- and I think it's all down to having such a short amount of time to wrap everything up. The writers have done a very admirable job with it, it's not an obvious rush-job disappointment like S5 of The Wire, but there are some problems that weren't present before. I basically think most of these minor problems with S4 would be solved if it were expanded to 10-13 episodes, or the show given a fifth and final season.

Still a really great season I think, though. I personally found Chloe and Daniel's dance to be one of the most moving moments of the series, even though I do have a couple problems with her character generally. At its best, S4 has been classic Rectify. Sure, it's more grounded/realistic than earlier Rectify -- but so was S3 and parts of S2. They're not going to return to the dreamlike, surreal quality of the first season or two, and it makes perfect sense the way the style has progressed as it's in perfect step with Daniel's own progression back into the realm of regular life.

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I agree with you about the weakest scene of Chole and the Gelatto. The way she called Daniel downstairs with "COME HERE!", all excited as if she found that lost winning lotto ticket.

One of my favorites is when Tawney was in the hotel room inebriated, and swaying to the music. She called Daniel and when he came to the hotel and saw her from the doorway and moved toward her, I thought "uh-oh, now they'll hit the sheets." But that's not what happened, he could have taken advantage, but he didn't.
It's hard to explain why it's one of my favorite moments (so far). Maybe because "Silver Rider" was the music score. They both were filled with anguish, but yet, attraction for each other and BOTH knew it was wrong.

I could FEEL their heartbreak. Great acting from Aden Young and Adelaide Clemens.

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One of my favorites is when Tawney was in the hotel room inebriated, and swaying to the music.


To me, that scene deems Daniel's entire relationship with Chloe null and void. Every time, he and Chloe interact, I just think: "Tawney and he did it better".

The dancing scene with Chloe was just plain misery. Young was obviously trying so hard to compensate with charm for their total lack of chemistry, but the scene was a still a disaster. In fact, I'm pissed that they even tried another dancing scene after the infinitely superior ones with Tawney and Janet (because he had chemistry with those actresses!).

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I found that scene astonishingly bland. I felt a little annoyed. I don't have a problem with repeating a dance scene, I have a problem with there being no innovation whatsoever. Had McKinnon tried to do something interesting but it didn't come off, I'd still cheer him on for taking the risk and making an effort.


"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson

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I kind of like Chloe -- to my surprise -- and find her real. But I think the "relationship" with Daniel is too quick and that it mostly smacks of desperation on his part, something we've not seen from Daniel before. He can be cautiously receptive, as he was with Tawney, but not "all in" as he seems to be with Chloe.

And I agree there's no chemistry between the actors. These two should remain friends, not lovers. Part of his "moving on" should be moving on from Chloe.

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Too many scenes for me to count, but my favorite one this season is when Daniel finally opens up to Avery in Episode One.

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that was such a powerful scene, made me all teary,
to see the torture and the pain
"damn daniel you weren't into escapism

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Despite flaws mainly related to Daniel/Chloe, this season has had some very strong scenes.

I'll cite one, because it moved me like no other. As far as I'm concerned, the one in which Teddy says "I'd like to get divorced, Tawney. Would you grant that for me?" is one of the all-time great breakup scenes. Clayne Crawford killed me -- but it would be a crime not to mention Adelaide Clemens' work here, because without her nuanced reactions, Crawford's would have been less powerful. His performance wasn't conjured in a vacuum. That scene is worth watching for Tawney's responses, each of her emotional beats affecting Teddy's, building to "Yes... You may have a divorce, Teddy," which culminates in Teddy's multi-layered reaction.

That scene struck me much deeper than anything I've witnessed Daniel go through in S4, which is interesting to me. In part, I think this is because of the nobility of Teddy's offer, the evident sacrifice. It's so extraordinary, for this character, and really, for anyone. That's why it's so relatable.

I don't think it can be overstated how extremely challenging Daniel's character would be to write. His sacrifice has been ongoing, moment-to-moment, and since it's literally normal it's very hard to find the extraordinary. (Perhaps that's why Emily Nussbaum singled out "Donald the Normal.") I think I have become somewhat inured to the character's suffering by this point - and I wonder if that isn't also the case for McKinnon himself. (This is one reason why features work so well: you can normalize suffering but with lower risk of audience inurement over the two hour span.)

At any rate, I don't think in S4 McKinnon found that extraordinary element that could refresh the character and his ongoing existential crisis. Chloe is not that refresher, because she does not challenge him enough. That intimacy needed to have been hard-won, not handed to him on a platter.


"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson

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I don't memorize seasons like that, but I can point out scenes that stick out to me when I think about this show:

1) Teddy and Tawney arguing after the miscarriage. That scene in which Teddy says the unthinkable (about Daniel killing Tawney) is one of the best-acted scenes in the history of cinema as far as I'm concerned.

2) Ted Sr "saving" Daniel after he comes in late to Janet's birthday party with an old stove in tow. The way Ted reached out to Daniel (and by extension his wife) in that scene just remains one of my favorite ever. As a viewer, it was so unexpected, just such a pleasant surprise.

3) Daniel's convo with his Black roommate on the last episode in which the roomy announced he'd gotten a job. Don't know the actor's name, but he is just a joy to watch to me. His smile is contagious. That scene just made me smile. I love Daniel's interaction with that particular person.

4) Jon and Amantha flirting at Janet's birthday party and Teddy teasing them. I just liked that at that particular moment, the air was light in the room, a rarity on this show.

5) The fat customer slowly counting out $40 or so and struggling to find change as Amantha gets more and more annoyed. From a directorial standpoint, that scene was aces, it put the viewer right there, getting annoyed right along with Amantha. lol It was so funny.

There are others and really the whole show overall is just a gem, definitely one of my favorite shows ever, but I'll stop there for now.


"If it doesn't make sense, it's not true." -- Judge Judy

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3) Daniel's convo with his Black roommate on the last episode in which the roomy announced he'd gotten a job. Don't know the actor's name, but he is just a joy to watch to me. His smile is contagious. That scene just made me smile. I love Daniel's interaction with that particular person.



That was a really good scene. So believable; you could feel the joy. Just getting a job, when you're fresh out of prison, is such a cause for celebration.

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I was so impressed with all three performers last week in the scene with Teddy Jr. telling Ted about the divorce. I was aching for Ted to go hug his son (and it looked as if Janet was, too), however briefly. But that wasn't in his nature, and the way it played out seemed so real, up to Ted acknowledging that he meant "Janet," not "your mother." The follow-up, with Janet tenderly washing Ted's back, rather than judging him for his emotional reserve, was also exquisite. Looks as if they might just make it as a couple.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

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You had me up to the last paragraph, though I don't recall Ted ever hugging Junior before. I think that Ted & Janet's marriage will weather this storm just as I think Teddy's would have ended whether Daniel was in the picture or not.

But none of this takes away from the power of those two scenes, which is the point of this thread.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

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