Janet. After the last couple of episodes, I find she has really rubbed me the wrong way. I can only identify, at this time, that is has to do with her being highly self absorbed. She seems to have no "real" moments- with herself or anyone else. I would hate to be Ted Sr. knowing I'd have to count on her for a living, under her control. She evokes a reaction within me akin to a chalkboard being scratched. Ick!
Well, you've just described a successful character. Rubbing viewers the wrong way with a character is as legitimate an effect as delighting them with one.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
Robbie, I agree for the first 3 seasons, but to my mind this final season the music has seemed more on-the-nose, less inspired. I don't find the same care with it as before.
Sometimes I've wondered if this is at least partly to do with the mix, elevating the music more than in the past.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
It's my experience that how you watch the show makes a huge difference as to whether the sound mix is heard properly or too loud. For example, take the latest episode's backyard scene with Ted, Teddy and Janet. Watching with headphones on my computer, the scoring in this scene sounded absurd; the music overpowered the dialogue, those climactic drums/percussion sounded silly beyond belief. However, when watching on a big flat-screen, the score seemed to be mixed properly; it was not too loud but just visible enough that you could appreciate how beautiful it was (whereas it came off as cheesy on headphones).
It is true that each season has used more scoring than the last, with S4 being especially score-heavy, but I think if the music sounds too loud in the mix it may be because of how you're watching/listening to it.
I can see that reasoning applying if one didn't watch/listen to a consistent source. However, I've consistently listened to/watched the same widescreen TV, and haven't altered the audio between seasons. So if the sentimental music seems louder than before, it stands to reason that this effect has to do with how they mixed, rather than how I watched/listened.
Unless of course my hearing has actually grown more acute :)
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
Yes, I thought the music for all of Teddy's scenes in the latest episode was too contrived to be "uplifting" and make you feel sympathetic toward him and get that he's a changed, or at least evolving, man. We get it! We get it!
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
when he went out hunting with his dad, his dad wanted him to shoot the deer, instead he raped it, strangled it, and shoved coffee up his butt his dad told him to go to his room as punishment because the penetration was taking it to far, pun intended
She's very self-centered, it's true. I don't dislike Janet because of this, it's a common flaw if also a serious one, but the reaction is understandable.
On the part of the show, I like that she isn't a perfect martyr archetype. Janet has been through the wringer, and it's terrible, and she never deserved that in any way. And, true to life, none of that means she's an exemplary person. She is ordinary and flawed, and she has not handled this test of her strength and resilience very well.
On the part of the show, I like that she isn't a perfect martyr archetype. Janet has been through the wringer, and it's terrible, and she never deserved that in any way. And, true to life, none of that means she's an exemplary person. She is ordinary and flawed, and she has not handled this test of her strength and resilience very well.
Bingo.
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I see Janet as a victim. Daniel was her first love, her first child. Nothing in the world competes with that. The bond between a mother and her child, let alone her first child. When Daniel was taken from her, I imagine her life was turn upside down. It must have been traumatic and everything else in her life, including her other children, became a little less significant to what she was going through. I'm not condoning her being a "checked-out" mother and wife to her children and husband, but the pain from Daniel being taken away from her was something she was never able to recover from.
And imagine Daniel coming back to her, this broken man, who is now incapable of that emotional connection she needs from him. Janet waited 19 years to have her son back and he basically tells her she has to let him go. As a father of two young girls, I understand the bond and can imagine how emotionally wrecked she must be from all of this and the collateral damaged that she caused because of it.
Yes, her behavior rubs me the wrong way to, but I understand how it got to be that way.
Do you have children? If you do, I'm certain you would agree that no one else on earth (even your husband/wife) meets the same level of love you feel for a child. Maybe in some cases, yes, but most would probably say no.
I'm just saying that I can completely understand how she became that person. Not everyone reacts the same when dealing with that kind of loss. It wasn't fair to anyone else, but it's human. That's why this show is one of my favorites all time. It's more real/true-to-life than any I've ever watched.
it is a different kind of love though, most people don't have children before their first love... unless they made a mistake/engaged in meaningless sex way to early and its a different type of love, one doesn't romantically love their children, they paternally/maternally love their children,
True. I certainly didn't mean to imply that parents love their children romantically. It's just that love you have for a child, or the loss (to death row in this case) of a child could crush you in a way that your life would never ever be the same. Your outlook on life would likely be completely upended. That may not be true for all, but I'm just trying to see the world from the viewpoint of Janet. I'm sure the loss of her husband devastated her, but losing Daniel was something she just couldn't cope with in a responsible way.
Hence Daniel saying he felt bad for "mother", how she had to let it all go before, and now she had to take it on again, when stern revealed his sentence had been vacated,
and hence the need for him to force Janet to let him go during the episode after pineapples in paris
That was a really good episode and felt for Janet when he told her that. Your child gets released after 19 years, signs an admission deal that banishes him from the state, and then tells her that she needs to let him go. That's tough.