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I am really going to miss this show. Wed. is the last episode of the series and it's so sad. This show is the best show on television in my opinion.
I hope we find out if Daniel is innocent or guilty.
I am really going to miss this show. Wed. is the last episode of the series and it's so sad. This show is the best show on television in my opinion.
I hope we find out if Daniel is innocent or guilty.
"Trey went back."
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
Yes, it sounds like Trey is guilty, but did he go back to kill Hanna or what?
shareOne likelihood is that viewers will know from circumstantial evidence that Trey did the deed. That may be as far as it goes. Of course Trey is on the hook for George's death, a poetic irony McKinnon may leave as it is.
With only one episode left, of course there will be no time for any drawn-out legal developments. But two testimonies provide circumstantial evidence. There is Bobby's testimony that George said "Trey went back," and Christopher Nelms' testimony that Trey said to him and George, "We'd better keep our mouth shut, or else."
Then there is Trey's own suspicious behaviour, recounted by CJ Pickens. George says something he didn't expect; he expected George to keep his mouth shut, but instead George pegs Daniel. George was pressured into it by D.A. Foulkes, and as a result, as his father says, "he wasn't ever the same":
SONDRAFurthermore, Daggett searched Trey's place, and found Hannah's hair band in the lock box in the shed.
But before that. Before you cut
'em all loose, before Daniel broke,
did you question Trey about
George's claim of rape by Holden?
CJ
Roland did.
SONDRA
And what was Trey's response?
CJ
Just sat there.
SONDRA
Sat there?
CJ
Finally, he asked Roland to
repeat what George had said
about seeing Daniel rape Hanna.
And Roland did.
SONDRA
And Trey's response?
CJ
He just sat there again, like he
was contemplating something.
Then he said he did not see any
sex at all between Daniel and
Hanna, just them arguing with
each other.
SONDRA
Did Roland press Trey to confirm
George's claim of sexual assault
against Holden?
CJ
Oh, of course. It was to our
advantage to have... another
eye-witness to that. We were
pretty sure that Trey had been
hanging out with George most
of the night, so we believed that...
he must have seen something,
too. But the harder that Roland
pushed Trey, the more he dug in.
SONDRA
That he hadn't seen a rape.
CJ
That's correct. But at that point,
we felt like he was deceiving us.
SONDRA
How so?
CJ
The way he acted so surprised
when we told him what George
had said about the rape and how
careful he was becoming before
he would answer something.
Just didn't feel right. Didn't feel
right. But, Ms. Person, again, at
the time, in the heat of the
moment, we felt like that he was
just protecting a friend.
SONDRA
A friend?
CJ
You know, by not ratting on him.
SONDRA
Daniel being the friend?
CJ
Daniel being the friend, yes.
I don't remember the hairband in the lockbox.
shareI'd forgotten when, but was just reminded that we see it when Daggett's team searches Trey's place, end of 305, The Future. A female officer opens the box and takes out the hairband.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
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but don´t you guys question Chris´s reaction while watching tv at home about the reopening of the investigation? for me it´s clear, it was Chris so was higly defended by the Senator by implicating poor Daniel in the first place. it was not TRey.
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I was under the impression that Daniel and Trey were not friends. They just knew each other. Why would Trey say Daniel wasn't involved? It seems like he has been trying to put the blame on Daniel since season 1.
I believe Daniel is innocent and either Chris, George or Trey did it. Most likely Trey. He went back to make sure Hanna wouldn't rat them out for the rape.
When Daniel visits trey at his house, Daniel looks at the TV and says, we played tecmo bowl on that
tecmo bowl was released in 87, it was either 94 or 95 Daniel went to jail,
so they were friends at one point, within the 8 years between the release of the game , and the murder so at the age of 10
Daniel wasn't such a loner that was at home playing sonic the night of Hannahs murder, he was at a party,he had enough friends to be able to get psychedelic mushrooms,
that reminds me, how did Lezlie know about the mushrooms, and what Daniel needed to do with them?
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Notice that Trey and Daniel hung out and had shrooms together as adults after Daniel's release?
I believe we will find out definitively one way or the other in the finale. It's an amazing show and I wish it could have gone on longer. Either way they decide to go with it in the finale is fine, I just hope it's a conclusion and it doesn't leave us guessing afterwards.
shareI agree solson. I need closure after being a devoted Rectifier for 4 seasons. I hope he's innocent though. and I hope the senator has his reputation ruined.
sharehe said daniel would be exonerated "over his dead body", the vulture has a heart attack, when jon stern next visits him,
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The senator was a good man. A dignitary and a patriot. I was sad when he fell ill to a stroke. That was the most tragic moment of the show. He didn't deserve to end like that. I was hoping he'd stand up for justice and set Daniel straight after what Daniel did to Teddy with the coffee cracking. I'm still hoping the good senator makes a full recovery so he can at least teach that weasel Jon some manners.
I get it that you don't like Foulkes, if only because you feel he is an antagonist to your protagonist Daniel, but I think Foulkes getting a stroke is enough of a punishment as far as storytelling goes. Man was a patriot who served his community with the highest distinction.
He was convinced -- or seemed to be
Considering what Foulkes did to George - on behalf of his supporter Roger Nelms, it turns out - it looks more like "seemed to be." Foulkes was "moving in and out of those rooms," according to Benji Melton, and his son "wasn't ever the same."
I think Foulkes has talked himself into believing Daniel did it, because he needed to. Because originally Chris Nelms was looking bad - his father likely knew he'd raped Hannah. Daniel was "weird," found with the girl, and that's a lot more palatable than going after Chris Nelms.
I think in particular this show is about scapegoating. The "weird," the outsiders, the minorities, the inconvenient and the unwanted take the fall, so the Chris Nelms can go on to be upstanding citizens, doctors and senators.
George was going to say he saw nothing, under threat from Trey. But evidently Foulkes pressured him to say it was Daniel. This is why, as CJ recalled it, Trey seemed so surprised to hear about George's testimony, and why he took time to reconsider his own. Realizing Daniel had been made the fall guy, he then said he didn't see rape but did see Daniel and Hannah arguing, thereby tightening the tunnel vision.
And then there's this obvious lie:
D.A. SONDRA PERSON
Daniel said there was a
Christopher there, with Hanna
and the others.
SENATOR FOULKES
Well, I suppose he was speaking
of Christopher Nelms, one of the
40 or so kids down at the river
that night.
D.A. SONDRA PERSON
I see.
SENATOR FOULKES
Holden's alleging that Chris was
with Hanna was news to me, of
course.
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What sign_in? The senator was a crook and a liar. He had a friend whose son was definitely a rapist and possibly a murderer, but he ignored all that to help his friend. He has no ethics. I can't believe you said that.
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Yes it's very sad there will no longer be more Rectify to look forward to.
On the bright side I can still catch the actors on Lethal Weapon and on Timeless.
Personally I think the best thing to keep Rectify rewatchable would be to not fully confirm his innocence but leave it mysterious. It would also be interesting to see Daniel guilty but I'm not sure the writers or actor would be up for that. So I'm predicting they will not fully confirm it either way.
I am really going to miss this show. Wed. is the last episode of the series and it's so sad. This show is the best show on television in my opinion.Ditto.
I hope we find out if Daniel is innocent or guilty.I think we've been given enough information now that leads to the conclusion that Daniel is innocent. I re-watched a scene yesterday I had apparently missed on its first run. Jon was speaking to the DA and he was talking about all the new revelations that had occurred since Daniel's second confession and he was offering to file an IAC (Ineffective Assistance of Counsel) but said he hoped he didn't have to. That scene was the most serious I'd seen in showing that Daniel was likely innocent. I just hope the writers don't disappoint and finish the deal. They brought us this far, it would be nice to have a reward at the end of the journey.
As much as I'm sorry to see it go, too, the story has pretty much run its course and it's a good time to conclude. So much better than to carry on with nothing much more to say.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.