I agree.The movie showed each member's own problems outside of the group, while giving an explanation why those things happened...well at least with Chilli and TBoz. They treated Left Eye like a background character at times, while Chilli & TBoz were mains. Though what they showed of Lisa was true (She did drink heavily @ times, did burn down the house, & did distance herself from the group), they never showed WHY she did most of those things. They didn't show how Andre was abusive to her. They didn't show that Lisa felt that she wasn't being used much & no one was really listening to her ideas in the later years, which is why she sought out a solo career. They didn't show how Lisa built a camp in Honduras for the kids and was very giving.
Now as a TLC fan, most would already know that, and know how Lisa was a big factor in the group's creativity. But to people who don't know them that well, or 30 years from now (since they want this movie out forever), people want to find out about TLC, Lisa will come across as selfish and very troubled.
I also didn't like how in the end before Lisa left for Honduras, they showed Tboz & Chilli in the background, both talking to her like things were so okay between them. When in actual reality, Tboz last saw and talked to Lisa when Lisa visited her in the hospital and Chilli and Lisa weren't even speaking prior to her death.
The movie was not 100% true like TLC is claiming it to be. As for Pebbles, only like 10% of what she said on Wendy, I could see being true. The rest was run- around.
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ladyjay0786
11 years ago
I also didn't like how in the end before Lisa left for Honduras, they showed Tboz & Chilli in the background, both talking to her like things were so okay between them. When in actual reality, Tboz last saw and talked to Lisa when Lisa visited her in the hospital and Chilli and Lisa weren't even speaking prior to her death.
Yeah that part can be confusing, especially to people who saw the up to date BTM interview where Chilli herself said that she tried to get in contact with Lisa before she went to Honduras. I'm assuming that because Lisa went to see T-Boz they did try to patch things up.
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ow-3
11 years ago
Lisa and Tionne were always closer than her and Chilli were. I think a lot of the dynamic in the ground changed when Lisa outgrew them. She had evolved spiritually and was no longer the silly joke-riddled young girl... she was becoming a woman. Honestly I feel Lisa stayed in TLC longer than she should have due to contractual obligations. Back when Lil' Kim was poppin' and Lisa was hanging with her and Missy was when she should've went solo. Her time had passed by the time Supernova came about. Tionne's sultry voice and Chilli's exotic looks weren't enough to complete the dynamic without Lisa; I'm curious how their new album will sell.
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Vodkie
11 years ago
speaking of their new album, i don't think they should use the name TLC without lisa being able to be in the group
if they're going to make new music together, they should call themselves t-boz and chili, not tlc. it just wouldn't be right to use the 'tlc' name without the L
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ow-3
11 years ago
On their updated BTM Tboz kept saying how she can't bear to do another album w/o Lisa and how they need to let it go. Flashfoward 10 years later and she is bankrupt again she is all pro TLC.
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ebbshoney
11 years ago
I'm sure Lisa would want them to go on and continue to keep TLC alive.
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Tha_Shiznit
11 years ago
I agree.
I think these other posters are speaking this way because Lisa is dead.
Lisa wanted to do something different anyway.
If she "outgrew" them than what difference does it make?
If Lisa was alive and left the group they probably would've found another member (and it probably wouldn't work).
We be the ones that make you beat your wife and hate your life - "Supreme Hustle" Ice Cube
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ebbshoney
11 years ago
Exactly! And as much money was spent on getting their name from Pebbles, what sense would it make to change their name?
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ladyjay0786
11 years ago
I agree.
I think these other posters are speaking this way because Lisa is dead.
Lisa wanted to do something different anyway.
If she "outgrew" them than what difference does it make?
If Lisa was alive and left the group they probably would've found another member (and it probably wouldn't work).
I don't think anyone here has a problem with them moving on without Lisa and I'm sure they would have still moved on with the two of them had Lisa still been alive. I just don't think they can really use the TLC name anymore because there is no longer and L. And it seems obvious that the remaining members are at different points in their lives. One wants to continue on the other wants to go solo and write music.
Lisa outgrew them but had she lived I'm sure she would still be apart of TLC in some form. Maybe not making new music but I'm sure she would have been down with touring with them.
Lisa wanted to do something different and now Tionne wants to do something different. The only one still stuck on milking TLC is Chilli.
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ladyjay0786
11 years ago
speaking of their new album, i don't think they should use the name TLC without lisa being able to be in the group
if they're going to make new music together, they should call themselves t-boz and chili, not tlc. it just wouldn't be right to use the 'tlc' name without the L
I happen to agree. You can't really call them TLC anymore because the L is no longer there. So they should just change it to T-Boz and Chill or Tionne and Chilli.
On their updated BTM Tboz kept saying how she can't bear to do another album w/o Lisa and how they need to let it go. Flashfoward 10 years later and she is bankrupt again she is all pro TLC.
I don't think T-Boz is bankrupt. At one time during her show Totally Tionne, she said she wanted to go solo. It was Chilli who wanted keep TLC going and she kind of got mad at Tionne because she wanted to do other things. Sort of like how they both got mad at Lisa because she wanted to go solo.
Here's the episode where T-Boz and Chilli talk about TLC:
http://youtu.be/Q8YUJqWhkq4
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HaveYouEverNoticed
11 years ago
I totally agree. There is no TLC without Lisa...I will always believe she was the heart of the group. As a 42 year old mother of a 13 year old daughter. It makes me happy to see how much she and her friends love TLC.
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Tha_Shiznit
11 years ago
LMAO Lisa was not a background character at all.
I think they were equal in this story. Lisa stood out as much as Tionne as far as I see.
We be the ones that make you beat your wife and hate your life - "Supreme Hustle" Ice Cube
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ow-3
11 years ago
Lisa had a chance after CSC to really secure a deal and break out on her own; she was still dealing with her demons though.
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ladyjay0786
11 years ago
She tried to but her album Supernova didn't come out in the States. So because Arista wouldn't release Supernova in the States she had to look elsewhere, which is why she ended up with Suge.
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ow-3
11 years ago
I know all of that; I'm saying she had a chance to blow way before that when females rappers were poppin' in the mid to late 90's and missed out. The only female rappers doing big things by the time Supernova came along were Missy and Trina (to some degree). Supernova was a good album but it would't have been well received in the US. You couldn't put it in a certain genre.
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k-lundy0709
11 years ago
As for why they probably wrote the scene of T-Boz and Left Eye's last chat before her passing the way they did was I think because there were already enough scenes of T-Boz in the hospital and it would have been overkill, and took away from the meaning of that last chat
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ladyjay0786
11 years ago
You could be right, but Chilli talking to her just threw the whole scene off since she never got the chance to talk to her.
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