While there may be others who could respond to this better, I'm not sure those users post here anymore, so I'll have to do it. Okay, here goes and I like to do this with a break down style.
Its OK to have opinion guys....
Of course, no one would dispute that.
I didnt hate it, in fact i LIKED IT. I personally give it a 6 or even a 7/10, and i quite appreciated how it makes understanding emotions easy for kids.
A 6 or 7 sounds low to me, but maybe that's just a difference in our grading scales. Of course, I can't really compare our scales because when I checked your ratings history, I saw mostly 1s and 10s.
But to me its not even close to the greats like Incredibles, Wall-E or Grave of the Fireflies. Those films were great for kids and adults, and had mature and deeper themes when you dug beneath the movies surface.
I'm not going to argue films against each other, so I'll just say that Inside Out can easily compete with those films on the deep analysis level.
With Inside out, i found it so shockingly basic. I expected a lot more to be going on under the surface but really what you see is what you get. For the all crap Inception gets for not being subtle and being literal with dreams, Inside out's "characters" are all caricatures. Their development is SOOO predictable, from Sadness understanding Joy, and Joy understanding sadness vice versa, the film had no surprises for me at all. Worse still, it ticked every generic box.
I felt this film was too detailed and written too flawlessly to call basic. I've heard others claim it doesn't stand up to a deep analysis and I proved them wrong every time. As for predictability, while most films will usually have a degree of that, this one wasn't overly so. It wasn't Big Hero 6 for example. And lastly,even if a film uses some common conventions, it's the execution of them that matters most and this film delivered fully on that front.
A cheerful character that has that sad Pixar moment
Life lesson plot
Side characters for comedy
The last two are par for the course for mainstream animated films. It's in Pixar's contract, you can't fault them too much for it. The first one I feel is an unfair myth associated with Pixar films given how many different executions each film has had.
And personally, they did not develop riley enough. The emotions in her head felt separate from her as a person. Almost as if they were just puppeteering her. At the end of the day, its not a BAD movie to me, but a sorely dissapointing one that i think, critics embraced simply because it was Pixars better movies for a long time.
This is something that has divided a lot of viewers. I've found that those who see the "puppet theory" tend to view the film more harshly. I viewed it in the perfect metaphorical sense and it worked fabulously in that method. I don't know how to get one side to see the other as films are open to multiple interpretations and neither of us can technically be said to be wrong. Still though, I think the metaphorical approach is what the film makers were going for.
By the end of the film, i didnt get to know Riley as a person, and character arcs were extremely predictable
The whole film is about Riley's character, even if it's on a somewhat basic level. But there's beauty in simplicity and a lot of times it's the art with the simplest approaches that get off the deepest messages.
I loved the trailer, and i still think this could have made for a great short, but as a full blown movie, the middle act is pure padding and the conclusion is generic. I saw it coming a mile away, so it didnt hit me at all.
The film worked perfectly as a full movie and I never felt there was anything unnecessary put in. And if you saw the ending coming a mile away, it seems like you were spending too much time overthinking and not letting the movie breathe naturally.
So why do people defend this movie so vehemently? I know quite a number of people who dont like the film either, but the defenders treat it like the second coming of Pixars golden age. And god forbid anyone who has an opinion otherwise.
First off, the Pixar "Golden Age" is a myth. Like any other company, they have films that will appeal to different people and the idea that they once only created perfect masterpieces that pleased everyone is ludicrous. As the fans of this film, Inside Out got attacked by trolls and haters almost as vehemently as Frozen. It's one thing to have disagreements, it's another thing to be outright malicious to a film like so many were.
The argument i get is always that "You just didnt understand the film".
In my humble opinion i understood it. It just felt much more shallow than i expected.
Yeah, I don't like that argument either. Still, just because you found it shallow doesn't mean others did. Also, as I said above, different interpretations exist so there is no one way to understand a film.
I have not seen the film since 2015 though, and i'll wondering if i should revisit it. Again, as negative as i probably sound, i still LIKED the film! Especially the soundtrack. So despite being generic and predictable i still felt emotional at certain points.
I hope you do revisit the film, it's quite wonderful. Maybe next time just let it breath and take it in. I'm also glad you like the score, it's one of Pixar's best imo. I didn't think the film was generic and predictable, many others didn't, but if that's how you feel I won't stop you.
"If life is getting you down and needs uplifting, then please come dance with me!"
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leonthesleepy
8 years ago
Thanls for the civil reply!
Yea i agree that i might have been overthinking a tad too much going into this movie. After hearing the unanimous praise that it was a masterpiece and all that, i came in expecting to be blown away.
I want to love this film so bad but i just wish the characters (emotions) were more developed? Either way those key emotional moments still stick with me, so its a film i will definitely revisit eventually. And i should probably also note, Ratatouille was a film i found overrated when it was released, but revisiting that movie years later, i couldn't believe how wrong i was haha, so maybe expectations played a role here.
Hope its better the second time around! The score IS INCREDIBLE though :)
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