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So Oprah's Legends Ball is an accurate litmus test after all?


It kind of defeats the purpose for the characters to admit that they were perpetuating offensive stereotypes when the show depicts what they call their ultimate, fundamentally true litmus test as being accurate in the end...

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well, doing the test on Bryce and Chris, yes, it worked. But does David look like the kind of guy who enjoys sitting through that? Not really. and he's gay...

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I didn't notice his reaction, and the characters didn't mention it. You'd think if it didn't work on David that they wouldn't have even bothered...let alone talk it up as the be-all, end-all.

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He was sitting on the couch looking as bored as John Stamos was. And throughout the episode, he was the one trying to get them to drop the issue.

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But still, they went through with it for whatever reason and touted it as the ultimate test that no straight man could sit through. Maybe if they had honed in on David's equal reaction than it would have come off more balanced, but it seemed like an afterthought and the main story looked like their test was accurate after all.

And the entire episode being based on an incredibly polar idea of people either being gay or straight was still inherently offensive to bisexuals.

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And the entire episode being based on an incredibly polar idea of people either being gay or straight was still inherently offensive to bisexuals.


Yes... I'm afraid that's Ryan Murphy logic for you. All you can really do about the blatant disregard for bisexuality in his writing is to take it with a grain of salt. Quite frankly, I'm just glad we even have a show about homosexuality in the forefront. Clearly tv programming isn't ready to give us bisexuality yet... (and I doubt it's something Ryan Murphy would offer) but this is a step in the right direction. I've grown to expect Ryan Murphy's writing to be clumsy once he gets his go-ahead. Therefore, I'm neither surprised or offended by his sloppy writing in this show. If I were, I wouldn't still be watching. With that in mind, I don't think it was their intention to exclude bisexuals... I suppose its their way of saying "well, they're neither one or the other, therefore, they're a non-entity in this argument." Of course, it's not right, considering they could have easily gone with a twist and made either Chris or Bryce (or both) bi at the end of it... I guess if people are looking for a representative for bisexuality, this isn't it. At least they're not outright foul-mouthing bisexuals. That would be a whole different story...

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Well no, even that could mean that they're bi instead...

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