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a poignant portrait of mental illness


After watching this I realized that this was only tangentially a movie about Stanley Kubrick or The Shining. It was actually and much more directly a documentary about a group of disparate people in the throes of the same mental illness--a clinical, rabid obsession with the first thing that came along. If it hadn't been The Shining that was the object of their fixation, it would have been something else--anything else; it almost didn't matter what they were obsessed with. As different as their theories all seem, the theorists all seem to have three things in common:

1) Like all conspiracy theorists, they have a firm belief that there is an actual pattern to or explanation for the world--that there is a deliberate plan or plot behind everything. This leads to people making leaps--often wild, unsubstantiatable leaps--to shore up their preset point of view.

2) They all believe in the utter infallibility and almost godlike perfection of Stanley Kubrick. Despite people's best efforts, movies, like every other human endeavor, are often full of continuity errors and other types of mistakes. But their belief that Kubrick was immune to this or any type of human error means that things in The Shining{ that most people would chalk up to normal, insignificant mistakes are assumed by these folks to be deliberate and therefore meaningful choices by Kubrick. Just because Kubrick was a perfectionist does not mean that he was incapable of making the usual mistakes that are sometimes the result of the normal filmmaking process.

3) They all (or mostly) seem to have mental illnesses that elevate the first two beliefs into full-blown, all-consuming obsessions.

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Based on this obsession with people who analyze movies - Thomasina just described him/herself, LOL.

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I think it's going a little far to say the critics in the movie were mentally ill. I'd say that it does seriously raise the question of how we derive meanings from art/movies/stories and to what extent we're projecting meanings that weren't intended.

I don't think that most of the people in Room 237 were all that unusual - take a book like James Joyce's Ulysses, people have been pouring over every single detail of that book for about 100 years now, journals of articles have been written on every conceivable angle and every tiny reference. Some movies and novels kind of invite that sort of treatment.

I've read through the website of the woman in the movie, Juli Kearns. She seems like a good writer - she's got two novels, she's a painter and photographer, married with a family. Her analysis of The Shining is really detailed, but I think Room 237 shows her out of context, she seems to have a lot of other interests & seems to be a decent person, not only preoccupied with Kubrick. http://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/shining_toc.htm

If someone was to interpret this much detail into an average movie (say Hot Tub Time Machine) I would be inclined to say they were over-reaching (though I'd probably give them a listen, haha), but this movie is set up like a maze or a puzzle, it kind of makes you try to work out what it means.

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Honestly, if the people in the movie were explaining their theories in a tongue in cheek way, its almost a funny movie

its when you realize that they are DEAD SERIOUS about the stupid things they are saying that you begin to ponder the mental illness card

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I think the guy talking about the faked moon landings has some issues, especially when he starts going on about the government and how they are after him. Playing the movie backwards and forwards reminds me of all those stoners who play Dark Side of the Moon and the Wizard of Oz at the same time, there are coincidences in all things if you look hard enough.

The guy at the very end had the most interesting observation in terms of mental illness, that this movie was HIS madness and drove him insane, which is the most interesting observation of all!

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"Surrender Dorothy!"

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haha brilliant analysis O.P. these people were dillusional.

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