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What a colossal waste of time!


This is the biggest load of *beep* ever committed to film about Stanley Kubrick. Some of the theories about dialogue are things straight from King's book, the nonsense about the 'geometry' of the layout of the interior sets and exterior built OVER the sound-stages in England to match as best they could are just that, limitations of set design. Continuity errors in Kubrick films become big deals to fantasists. Why Kubrick attracts such fantasists is a mystery to me. Maybe because he gave so few interviews and especially now that he's dead they feel that they can just spew anything without fear of contradiction.

Look! Here's an "impossible" window! It couldn't be that maybe Kubrick just wanted the room to have a window and didn't think anyone would ever be this obsessive to notice they were cramming a set into a sound-stage smaller than the hotel they depicting?

Look! Calumet cans mean something about American Indians and some nut figures out the TANG cans are Kubrick admitting he faked the Moon landing and only we whack-jobs are more clever than you to see all this stuff! Really? All the thousands of people that worked for NASA and subcontractors and they were all fooled? They ALL kept these sorts of secrets?

Witches! Hansel & Gretel! The numbers! Seven! Forty-two! Let's superimpose the film forward and backward at the same time, something that would have been all but impossible for Kubrick to have done at the time the film was made - but this too must mean something! Somehow this all went into our brains, or rather their brains at an unconscious level and made them more clever than us. The garish carpet is a comment on sex and beehives - an allegory about - something!

"I admit perhaps I'm grasping a straws" one commenter says and that's the most poignant thing said in this whole mess...

"I'm not saying we didn't go to the Moon, I'm just saying what we saw was fake..." Does this guy need to say more? "I'm probably going to be audited" he says. Yeah, we need to round these guys up because god-forbid we have one more conspiracy loon with a website on the net! The TRUTH might leak out!

"One can always argue that Kubrick had only some or even none of these things in mind. But we all know from postmodern film criticism that author intent is only part of the story of any work of art. And these meanings are there regardless of whether the creator of the work was conscious of them."

Was there ever a more self-serving thing said in the mess? Well hell! You "post-modern" critics can just pull things out of your asses, much the same way you can say with certainty that the Moon landings are fake, that Elvis faked his death and aliens diddle rednecks in house-trailers. Yes, "post-modern" film critic, you can say ANYTHING and it must be considered.

Isn't it way past time we had a post-post-post-post-Modern something or other at this point?

I consider this a breath-taking work of astonishing wankery.

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OH! Don't forget the case of the missing chair...

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Everything that the first poster said is so true. These people in this were just reaching out and holding on to straws.

The missing chair. It was there and the next scene it was gone. It must have been a ghost. No it was a continuity error and nothing more.

The number 42 is every were. That's when Germany started to kill the Jews in World War 2. No the Germans started to kill the Jews in 1939 when the war started. And went in to full drive when they invaded the Soviet Union in 1941.

Look that's not a skier on a poster. It's a minotaur. No it was a skier and nothing more.

And I won't even get into the Moon landing crap. That nut job needs to stay in RV in the desert and never talk to anyone ever again.

The big problem with theses people in this is they all have a big love affair with Stanley Kubrick. Everything he did, they have to watch and look at it 100 times to find the meaning of it. If you see something, they you saw something. But sometimes a movie is just a movie.

And of course there's no mention of Stephen King the person who wrote the Shinning. But to Kubrick fans, Kubrick the reason why the Shinning is so great. The book of the Shinning is way better then the movie.

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