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Kubrick didn't work alone, so others can confirm/deny...


Kubrick needed a *ton* of people to help him put "The Shining" together. Actors, set designers, make-up artists, etc.

A lot of these people are still alive today. Those who aren't have certainly talked about the film before they passed. There are interviews, articles, old storyboards, *SOLID PROOF* of shot constructions, etc... there's no need to speculate about Kubrick's intents.

Did Kubrick let *anyone* know the cans of baking soda were so important? Did Kubrick ever *once* talk about how "The Shining" was a reflection/allegory/representation/WHATEVER to the Holocaust?

Did Kubrick let the actors know, "When you shake hands with Jack Nicholson, be sure to position your crotch over the paper tray in the background so it looks like you have a *HUGE BONER*!"

These people narrating this documentary are out of their goddamn minds. They're reading too much into *NOTHING!* Show me some *EVIDENCE* that these "magical scenes" and "subliminal messages" mean something and *THEN* we can talk. Until then, this is total horse *beep*

Watch "Room 237" if you want a good laugh. Watch a different documentary if you want to learn something.

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Kubrick was the one who called the shots - he had no need to tell anyone `why` he was doing what he was doing anymore than a general has to explain his strategic objects to a foot soldier.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0

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I don't know how I feel about that interview. He's Kubricks assistant but he makes it out like the man NEVER hid anything in his movies when we know that as just simply not being true.

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This is exactly right, I was just about to start a post saying the same thing.

Clearly, the oddballs in this film haven't worked professionally on a movie before! Filmmaking is not just about taking directions from a boss. (Like an office job.) Creative Ideas, improvisation, concepts are constantly being discussed and tried on the set and in post production. The key creatives know exactly what the hell is going- that's what allows them to contribute to the evolving storytelling process.

Even the assistants need to know exactly what the director is aiming for. Instead of worshipping Kubrick like he's the lost messiah, try asking his immediate team. They were as much a part of this story as Kubrick was.

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Actually, it pretty much `is` about taking orders from the boss (although it does depend on a particular director). Knowing all the whys will not necessarily benefit the actors/crew in any way.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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