HORRIBLE DOCUMENTARY - Room 237 (2012) Discussion

[–] caslingary 12 years ago

Do you know what conspiracy means?

There were five talking heads in Room 237, the conspiracy was mentioned by only one of them and his segment seemed to be the shortest.

Maybe you could elaborate on what you mean or am I correct in assuming that you are a little titty troll?

Have you noticed ignorant people always talk the loudest?

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[–] dexshirts 12 years ago

I agree. This was a horrendous documentary if you can call it that.

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[–] caslingary 12 years ago

Me thinks you have totally missed the point.

Stanley Kubrick did encode his films with hidden meanings - He wrote about them and the letters can be viewed in his archives. The fun is finding what the hidden meanings were.

Remember Kubrick had a very high IQ, maybe you need to do educate yourself a little more then come back to this documentary then (I don't mean that as an insult - schools are failing chidren so its not your fault). Chat again in 20 years ok?

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[–] RHPSvegas 12 years ago

No one is disputing Kubrick's IQ - what we're saying is MAYBE these people in this "documentary" are reading more than just a bit too much into it (i.e. looking for "hidden things" that may not necessarily be there). The whole thing is full of speculation. The only things I was able to take away from it were some interesting facts about the visuals (the "impossible window", the bathroom in the Gold Room, the walk-in refrigerator, etc). Everything else was pure speculation, and unless Kubrick himself aknowledged any of these 'theories,' I find them incredibly hard to believe.

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[–] marso86 12 years ago

What's wrong with speculation though ? In the end The Shining is still just a film. It's not a world world defining event that people should know the absolute truth of. If one guy thinks its about genocide and has his points to back it up he's allowed that opinion. The documentary is presented absolutely unbiased, which funnily enough you'd think you would enjoy that being a being anti Fox News person as seen if your signature.

In the end it's actually about the power of this film maker and this film and the talk and debate about it & him 30+ years later which is pretty amazing

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[–] RHPSvegas 12 years ago

I never said there was anything wrong with speculation - what's wrong is they made an entire movie about it and wasted tons of time, resources and money. They could have just posted all of these "theories" on a website for people to view instead of making a film and misleadingly categorizing it as a 'documentary.' This is several people reading a bunch of personal experiences into a film - this could be done to ANY film; doesn't mean we need a movie about it. It was a huge waste of resources based on invalidated personal speculation. Was it interesting? Remotely. Entertaining? In a laughable, "these people have way too much time on their hands" sort of way. Valid? Not at all.

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[–] caslingary 12 years ago

"They could have just posted all of these "theories" on a website for people to view"

They did - then Rodney Ascher thought that putting them all together would make an interesting and informative documentary.

And whadya know - it did!!!

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[–] RHPSvegas 12 years ago

Everyone's entitled to their opinion... no matter how ridiculous it may be...

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[–] kennerguy66 12 years ago

So everyone is entitled to an opinion, but a movie can't be made about various opinions?

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[–] polysicsarebest 12 years ago

I thought the "impossible window" was the most interesting bit, and I also thought it was interesting (though pointless) when they showed the film frontwards and backwards. There were some cool bits; the drawing the woman did of the floors of the hotel was cool as well. For some reason I never noticed the APOLLO 11 sweater either. So, there were cool bits here and there but the actual "theories" were silly.

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Shuji Terayama forever.

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[–] mylistsnstuff 12 years ago

You start your post with 'Me thinks', yet you're recommending other people to grow up/educate themselves? Alrighty then.

Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.

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[–] candre0714 12 years ago

Me thinks you are a condescending little a**hole that needs to belittle others to come to grips with your own just-barely-above-average intelligence.

Most filmmakers use hidden messages; they usually only mean something to the filmmaker. I had to turn this off after 20 minutes as a result of falling asleep at nine o'clock at night due to boredom. This film is made by a person that used the theories of other people that ruin films for everyone else. They're pseudo-intellectuals; attempting to appear intellectual for the sake of appearing intellectual. Most films (and I include The Shining in "most") are made to entertain the viewer. That's it. There is nothing to anything any of these "cinephiles" have to say regarding this film.

On a related note, don't miss my upcoming documentary titled "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing." It's a look into Michael Bay's "Armageddon" and the obvious desire that Bay has to fornicate with large women (drilling into an immense asteroid). It took me five minutes to do my research into this hidden meaning.

I don't have a signature. But if I did, it would probably say something about wishing I wasn't addicted to reading collosally stupid posts about movies on IMDB.

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[–] TheApostle 12 years ago

Me thinks you're an idiot.

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[–] MantusTobagan 11 years ago

Most of this seems like a reach, why didn't Kubrick just read the *beep* book?

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[–] trnjamesbond 12 years ago

Read your comment on room 237 and I must agree, a complete waste of my time, the only thing that it did do for me is it made me laugh at the idiocy behind all the theories. What stupid rubbish this is and yes also included is "mindless hogwash". I do agree 100%.

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[–] polysicsarebest 12 years ago

I thought it was silly at times -- "it's a film about kUBRICK faking the moon landing; Jack lying to his wife is like Stanley lying to his!" -- but it was kinda neat that they even did this; a film essay... 2 hours of dissecting and looking deeper into a film. Not something you see every day, which is cool. Also cool that they got all the clips to use. How did they get away with that?

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Shuji Terayama forever.

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[–] richardecredico 12 years ago

Regarding the impossible window: sets are built to facilitate s shooting schedule and are not built to represent reality, nor are they constructed to play with the minds of an audience.

In 2001, the Odyssey was clearly larger inside than it could have been physically based upon what we saw of its exterior with a human for scale. This is not part of any hidden narrative or secret message.

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[–] xantny84x 12 years ago

I don't want to p*ss any of the fans off, but, I have to admit this documentary was quite boring. I barely watched 20 minutes of it and had to shut it off, it was just so... dull to me.

However, maybe you just truly have to be a die hard fan of The Shining or Kubrick to really appreciate what this documentary is about.

I was dissapointed because I liked both of the Shining films, only to find that this isn't actually a documentary on the film, but more of a commentary by random people about what they think the film is about.

So if you're a die hard fan of Kubrick or the Shining, then, give it a shot. But if you just "like" the film, yet want to see a real documentary on it, skip this movie.

No Accidents. No Coincidences. No Escapes. You Can't Cheat Death. - FINAL DESTINATION 5

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[–] badhatharry126 12 years ago

Preach. This thing is so stupid it's making me angry.

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[–] papallo 12 years ago

The point when the guys who was narrating had to excuse himself so he could check on his crying son? How could they leave that in if they expected this to be taken seriously in any light.

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[–] randyhndrsn 12 years ago

I think it was fun as hell, I really like the editing, music and conspiracy theories are just fun, even if they are stupid, plus there is a lot of cool stuff to notice in the Shining.

Kubrick was famous for putting tons of hidden stuff in his film, he was obsessed with all the fine details and what makes him such a great filmmaker is how layered all his work is.

Watching this was just like having conversation with film buff friends trying to find all the hidden meanings in shots or scene of films, and I never felt like the film was saying any of this was true.

It's probably just not something you are into, but I don't think that makes it a bad movie or not really good for people who like this sort of thing.

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[–] garybeta 11 years ago

Hi. I'm the OP.

I'm very much into Stanley Kubrick and The Shining. The Shining is in my top 5 films of all times. That being said, this documentary still sucks. It's cut and paste filmmaking at it's best and that is a compliment.

90% nonsensical padding in this documentary.

Also, Stanley Kubrick would have never let this get produced. Seems his Estate is wide open for the scraps now.

The biggest mystery to me is how this film got financed....oh, wait, it was made on a laptop with stock footage.

:)

PS....I will give you kudos for editing. :)

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[–] phumanchu 11 years ago

Thanks for bringing forward how lame and boring this "film" is. I definitely won't waste my time gary ;)

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[–] snook_ocreed 11 years ago

I took this as comedy.

I will admit that I found parts, I repeat, PARTS of the Native American angle plausible - the elevator's blood coming from the burial ground could very well be a (very oblique) symbol of unsuccessful suppression of the past to parallel Jack's unsuccessful suppression of the past, and maybe even the owners of the Overlook unsuccessfully trying to suppress the hotel's skeletons in the closets. But that's all - if all these guys were right, no human not already committed could make this - God would have to had directed the Shining or something.

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[–] T-eschberger 11 years ago

It would have been fun/funny if these random theories actually went anywhere. But most of the commentators just layed out these stupid observations without actually SAYING anything or paying them off. If a German brand typewriter means the film is about the Holocaust tell me WHY this is so. Don't just state stupid sh!t and leave it at that.

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