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For those who believe in the lunar landing conspiracy


Is it confined to Apollo 11? Because we "claimed" to land men on the moon in Apollo's 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 too. (For what happened to 13 see the Tom Hanks movie). Were all these conspiracies too? And, relating it to The Shining, I get why people might say that Kubrick was interested in Apollo 11 and space travel. But where does one get the notion from the movie that he was involved in a conspiracy?

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What I got from this was that man may or may not have landed on the moon, that was not really the point - the point was that whether it happened or not, they think Kubrick did actually film the "moon landings" in the desert and this is the footage we see and the photographic evidence is derived from thsi footage.

They were suggesting that Kubrick was apologising for this through some of the imagery in The Shining - I might be wrong, but that is how I remember it.

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Those who believe it that all of them are conspiracies and Apollo 13 was a staged hoax to make it more believable for the "sheeple." They claim that humans can never leave the Earth and live due to the van allen belts, at least the guy in the movie was not that crazy. Stanely Kubrick filming the moonlandings have always been popular.

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The part I didn't get was, when the guy said that Kubrick helped fake the moon landing, he immediately followed it up with "I'm not saying we didn't go to the moon, I'm just saying what we saw was faked." To what end? What was the point? A conspiracy for conspiracy's sake?

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The guy that made the claim about the moonlandings have made a couple of documentaries about the connections between Moon-Hoaxes and Kubrick. I have seen at least the first two in that series myself and if I remember correctly the chronology is as follows:

1. Kubrick made 2001.
2. Men in dark spectacles who secretly run the world were utterly impressed with the realness in 2001.
3. Men in dark spect... (you get the point, I'll just call them Men in Black now), Men in Black offers him the job of staging the moon-landings. In return he'll get carte blance checks for any movie he wants from then on. This also included access to top-secret lenses for shooting Barry Lyndon without the need for extra lights.
4. Kubrick accepts the offer he cannot refuse.
5. Kubrick oversees the work on staging the apollo-programme for the public.
6. Kubrick feels bad about duping the world over something as major as this so he confides with a dear friend.
7. Friend gets... ehm... friend has a sudden "accident" inspired by those frequent car-accidents that North Korean officials tend to suffer shortly after falling out of favor.
8. Kubrick now feels really bad, and terrified for himself and his family.
9. Kubrick makes The Shining filled with clues about how this all went down. Signalling to King that this is his story now with the WV-car in the truck-accident. All in a desperate attempt at telling the world of the hole ordeal and the truth about it all.

And then the statement that he doesn't say that we didn't go to the moon, just that what we saw wasn't the moon-landing means just that. That we probably went there. But either something terrible happened that they don't want us to know about. That we might have encountered aliens or something else that wasn't fit for public consumption at the time. And what we saw was just what they wanted us to see. Not the whole thing. And certainly nothing from the real moon-landings.

It's also a bit interesting that a great deal of this whole conspiracy (right up until, but not including, the claims that The Shining is a public appology and search for redemption) can be found in a french Mockumentary featuring Kubricks own wife that details most of this stuff. Dark Side of the Moon from 2002 it's called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26EicKfNYPg

I've always found these hairbrained conspiracy-theorists utterly fascinating. And this whole Shining is a search for redemption is one of my favorites in the genre. Right up there with the regular shapeshifting aliens and Nibiru.

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All bulls**t I'm sure, but it does sound very interesting and even semi-plausible. O.o

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