Shut Up and Dance - Conflicted emotions

He's harming children immeasurably by merely being a consumer of material exploiting them.

Child pornography should not be legalised. I think people who advocate for it are just pedophiles themselves and want easy access.

Death lies dormant in each of us and will bloom in time. Odd Thomas

While he might have an innate sexual fondness for children that one could argue he was born with and has no control over, what you refer to as a sexual proclivity for children, this 100% does not release him from being responsible for his choice to act upon it. He was looking at pictures of children. Where did those pictures come from? What children are in the pictures, and why were they posted? There are sick, twisted people who cater to pedophiles and physically, emotionally, psychologically harm children in order to supply pedophiles just like Kenny. Kenny's desire to look at pictures of children absolutely harms children. He is absolutely responsible for his actions which directly causes children to be harmed. He doesn't have to touch a child to cause harm. That doesn't mean I didn't sympathize with his plight; he was a sympathetic character- he was meant to be, but he did harm children, and I expect they were young children as was alluded to when he interacted with the young girl in the restaurant, and by the way his mom was freaking out.

A minor can get in legal trouble for sending sexts from a minor, for example if a 16 year old girl takes naked pics and sends them to her 16 year old boyfriend she can get in trouble for distributing child pornography and he can get in trouble for viewing it. I think the main character would get in even more trouble then the example above because it is implied that he was looking at much younger minors.

He didn't say he wasn't old enough to drive he said he was still learning.
He isn't a minor as he's over 16.

He said hes not old enough to legally drive yet

I thought he looked younger, but various official sources say Kenny is 19. In the UK, where it was set, he would be guilty as a 50 year old of the crime, and put on the sex offenders register - however sentencing is up to the judge and I imagine a first offence for a 19 year old would mean he was treated as leniently as is reasonable (ignoring the other crimes for a moment). I think it was a deliberate choice to make the protagonist still young, living with his parents etc, and for the severity of the child porn he was looking at it to be unclear, so as for it not to be a black and white 'so he was a pedo? Then they should kill him anyway' type response.

i still don't get why he should lose his children because of cheating, yes he will see them less after divorce, but not really losing them or did i miss something why he agreed with this blackmail and rather participated in robbery?

Those laws and courts are there to service to rich and oppress the poor. How do they serve me? I have many examples, when I was five a man attempted to kill me by suffocation, this was after I saw him kick his pregnant girlfriend down the stairs to kill his unborn child. He tried the same thing with my mother and I got involved, he tried to kill me with a pillow over my face...keep in mind we paid to stay there at this run down old mansion in Santa Barbara. The police refused to do anything, they said, and I quote, "we were just a bunch of junkies". I was five, but I was poor, so thats how much I mattered. Thats how much that baby mattered, thats how much my unborn sister matter, my mother, that poor woman who lost her baby...she was really kind to me, gave me my first action figure. Your laws, your justice, your courts, its all BS.

I saw a person shoot another person twice, so I told my mom and we reported it. The cops refused to look where I said it happened and harassed me (then about seven years old) telling me not to lie to police and make up stories.

Later in Jr High some G13 (Mexican gang) started messing with my friends at school, every week there was a gun or bomb threat. Teachers hid, hell one day our sub spent most of class under a desk hiding from gunshots...so they attacked my friend and I got involved just by pointing out what had happened, a huge ordeal. They tracked me down to my house and set my friend on fire on the bus, I saw him burning alive. Cops didn't give a damn. No-one ever got in any trouble.

That was all in California, where I also had a cop plant drugs on me on the freeway, then take us on a high speed chase...our car was broken down, we'd done nothing wrong. Another time my car was vandalized, I reported it, nothing. I went to fix my car, in the parking lot of Wal-Mart my rear-view mirror fell off in my hand, so I was headed to the bank to get money to go across the street to get a new mirror. A cop car shows up and follows me for a few miles, follows me into the bank parking lot and then turns on the lights. Tells me not to resist and that I need to calm down. Sez my shaking is proof that I am high on drugs, I cannot help shaking I explain, I have a disability caused by spinal meningitis. He sez I am lying and that the baseball bat in my backseat is a weapon and why do I have it? He claims that for these reasons he should arrest me, so I'm lucky he's only giving me a ticket, for my car, that was vandalized.

So I go in to pay the traffic ticket he gave me, I ask the woman at the front desk which courtroom I should go into and she tells me. The bailiff won't let me in, sez I'm late (was right there at the time they specified, I even double checked so as not to be late) and that I'm causing a problem for court proceedings, she sez she will not let me in...I'm like, "but I will get into trouble for not showing up", to which she responds, "Thats right, you'll get a bench warrant", at which point I'm like screw it, "Fine, I'm leaving, if I cannot go in whats the point, this is not fair, or legal, and this is why I hate America". I was arrested on the spot. I was taken down to the station, my clothes were stripped, and I was beaten, my money was gone from my wallet when I was finally released. They mocked my last name, its Armenian...and my nose (its kind of Eastern-European looking), and the whole time they were beating me they were telling me to respect woman, officers, and the law you love so much. Now apparently the receptionist described me as a tall, dark, and intimidating male who accosted her by saying, "Hey, you bi-atch, where is the motherf-ing judge" or some such nonsense. I have no problem with cursing but I am not stupid, thats not how you talk to anyone, especially not when you need their help. Quotas, not people; numbers & money.


I was fired from my job when they heard about it, they said my shaking was an obvious sign I was on drugs, just as the cops had said...I was fired for being disabled. I tried to fight it. But I saw America for what it really is; the rich win every time. No lawyer would take my case...why? I said I was innocent, they said I was guilty...I've always tried to be a good and moral person, sure I don't agree with many of the laws but I respect my fellow humans and animals. It didn't matter, nothing I did mattered, they took everything. I would have done better in life if I had known just how stacked reality is against the small guy. What have these laws done for me? They oppress me, they beat me, they ignore me when I need help, and they exploit everything I have, what little I did have.

At the same time my landlord was being a slumlord, the roof fell in on another friend's head, I pointed this out and nothing was done, this was during Winter. I sat there watching all my money go up into the air; heating the outside world. So I called around to find out my legal options as a tenant, then I sent him a letter he had to sign for stating that I would not pay any further rent until it was fixed as was my right. He said he never got the letter and called the police on me, they entered my house repeatedly and illegally. At one point they woke me up and told me to come outside, I said I was coming outside for a smoke so we could talk. I come outside and the cop has his gun aimed at me...I have never owned a gun though I do think people should be allowed to have them, anyways. They came into my house and took lots of my possessions, I never saw them again. They said I had a gun, though a gun was never found nor any evidence. They took my computers and said I was using them to sell drugs...they ruined my life...for what...for your justice? What justice? I was a law abiding citizen. I had an amazing job but not enough time to save up much money yet, I had no reason to be involved in crime because it was counter-intuitive to my personal and moral philosophy. Didn't matter. My family (both sides) has a long history of crime, persecution, and genocide...I did not want to be that person. I'm disabled but I wanted to prove everyone wrong, prove that I was capable, that I could toe the line, hell I sailed the Caribbean at 15 after deciding thats what I wanted to do at 13, I know what I'm capable of. Doesn't matter, not rich enough, not desirable enough, not connected, rebellious ideals, I mean obviously I deserve everything I got right? And still to this day...I have nothing because the powers that be don't want me to have anything. Can you what its like to have nothing, then earn something, then have it all taken away for reasons you have no power over.


Your police are thugs, they dress in black and use intimidation to terrorize the poor, the outside, those that are different, disabled, or otherwise undesirable. You think the laws work because they serve you; the rich, the wealthy, the comfortable.


In Santa Barbara where I grew up for a time I witnessed countless crimes, one of our nations richest cities is too important to care about some wretch like myself; I mean if you are poor you must be a worthless junky right?

But it doesn't end there, in Colorado I've seen rampant child abuse in the schools, cops didn't care, school board didn't care.

In Las Vegas my grandmother was robbed and beaten to the point where her ribs where caved in, cops couldn't be bothered.

In Florida I've seen illegals (from the Caribbean) being snuck into the country in Ft Lauderdale. I saw the whole thing happen many times because I was working and living at a small boatyard where no-one else stayed at night. The Coast Guard were there playing over-watch for the whole situation.

In Hawaii I've seen illegals from Germany selling large amounts of Marijuana to one of our local politicians. I've also seen the police smoke it and Ice (what they call Speed) here as well, on multiple occasions.

What does the law have to say about any of this? It doesn't care, if it doesn't care about the attempted murder of a five year old or the murder of an unborn baby and mother, or my friend being burned alive...well...that law is nothing but hot air.


"This is What You Want... This is What You Get"

Think Chris Morris co-wrote this episode

Yep... great writing. I love how that "but wait, why would he..." moment before the robbery gets committed and everything falls into place with the last piece of the puzzle.

He was. That's the whole point. I'd rewatch it.

How would you react if YOUR child grew up into a paedophile btw? Maybe because they had been abused by someone when they were young? You'd want their nuts cut off, beaten to pulp and locked up for life?