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My thoughts on the sampler/thief


Watching the movie, I thought the sampler was some kind of scientist/researcher studying the effects of the worms and their secretions. The thief was working as his lackey...providing subjects, helping perform experiments, collecting data, etc. The thief, as an added bonus, was also using the suggestability provided by the drug to rob the subjects. So in my mind, the sampler/scientist (think of sample as a scientific term) was the mastermind behind everything that was happening, the thief/lackey was working for him (stealing both people and money), while the victims were simply subjects in some crazy psychotropic experiment.

This explains why the victims were forced to do mundane tasks such as copying a book or making a paper chain. These mundane tasks were experiments designed by the scientist to study the neurophysical/psychological effects of the worms/secretions on a human subject. The thief/lackey was needed because this type of human testing would be extremely illegal and the scientist wouldn't want to be directly connected with human experimentation. Thus, the thief studied the people while the scientist studied the pigs. Also, allowing the thief to earn extra income through fraud and theft (perhaps even selling the drug on the side, as I thought occurred with the two teenagers) would make him less likely to turn on the scientist. So then, the thief makes money (his only concern), the scientist gets results (his only concern), and the subjects/victims get their lives destroyed (seems like a metaphor for something).

I was absolutely 100% sure that this is what was going on. In fact, I thought it was really pretty obvious. Now I get on here and find out that I was actually 100% wrong in my beliefs compared to the filmmaker's original intentions. I guess this says something about the subjectivity of art...although I still prefer my own interpretation.


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I think the thief and sampler were completely independent, just parts of the life cycle of the blue stuff

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This is the best explanation yet, everything makes sense now, you are truly a genius and for that I salute you.

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It's clear that the Thief and Sampler know of each other's existence, but it's also clear that they are not in any kind of contact, because the former is taken by surprise by the events near the end.

Both the Thief has Sampler mark their water glasses with a blue marker. The Thief has a custom LP recording of Walden where the word "wormwood" has been edited out, that was presumably pressed at the Sampler's studio. The suggestion is that the Sampler (or a mentor) used to work with whoever trained the Thief (just as he is training a trio of young kids).

The Thief is not doing research. It would have been very easy to suggest that. The busy-work that he has victims doing is a timing mechanism to keep the level of water in the victim's gut at the right level to maximize the worm's psychic powers. That regimen ends when the worm burrows out of the gut.

Prepare your minds for a new scale of physical, scientific values, gentlemen.

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What led you to believe the Thief is studying her at any point? I must have missed it.




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Forgive me if I get some details wrong as it's been some time now since I actually watched the movie.

I do remember him having the woman do some mundane tasks such as copying a book and making a paper chain while he took notes on what was happening. This was what I saw as the "experiment" portion before then using the suggestibility of the drug to take her money.

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Those mundane tasks are part of the hypnosis. Mechanisms for control.




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It was indicated that the sampler/scientist was following and studying some of his subjects.

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He was helping the victims of the thief by removing the worm.
It seems he was able to draw them to him by using certain sounds/wavelengths?

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