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why did the movie suck?

posted 9 years ago by bobcat667
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so far the only answers I have seen are

>wahhh its different
and
>the effects are pretty bad

while the effects are arent exactly hollywood, i find the 'its different' argument to be rather irrelevant. I am curious for those who hate hte movie if they can come up with reasons that don't rely on "its different than the anime". simply listing a difference and following it with "sucked" doesn't help either. we already know you think it sucks, but why, other than that its different than the anime? dont get me wrong, its totally fine to just like the anime and hate the movie cuz its different, but saying it sucks cuz its different is rather narrow minded.

i wont argue the points, as that would be rude of me to ask someones opinion simply to argue them, but i am genuinely curious what they are (if any) other than "its different".

help to start, some flaws were:
>inconsistent tone in terms of humor

the anime suffered from this as well, but not nearly as much.

>a single man throwing a titan

this was hte most WTF aspect of the movie, but i found neither of these details to be bad enough to hate the whole movie over.

until we meet again~

[–] Jay_Nadiah 9 years ago

there was some seriously stupid things in the movie don't get me wrong.. like you have already mentioned the man throwing the titan being one..

other things I can think of..

stupid baby titan.
the replacement for captain levi.. shikasima or whatever his name was.. he was stupid. levi was twisted in a good way and was badass. shikasima was just twisted in a deplorable creepy slimy way and was a stupid addition let alone being a replacement for such a cool character.
the decision to not include erens mothers death.. one of if not the best scene in the entire anime.
the decision to not include the scene showing why sasha got the name 'potato girl'.. the funniest scene in the anime.

I feel the worst by far was not having erens mothers death scene though.. its what gives him his motivation in the anime and is why he is so determined to destroy them. he lacks any sort of motivation in the film and youre just left there think "ok he wants to kill titans so badly but why?" that was a seriously bad decision.

not overly keen on the change in dynamics between eren and mikasa.. again though slimy pervy shikasima character is mostly to blame for that.

All that being said. I still enjoyed the movie.. it IS enjoyable for what it is.

[–] bobcat667 9 years ago

most of what you just listed were changes/replacements from the anime ;)

though the baby point wasn't a change, it makes me wonder, what about it did you not like?

until we meet again~

[–] The-last-to-know 9 years ago

It lacked Gravitas.

There was insufficient establishment of the threat or more to the point, the level of ignorance of the threat. Titans had not been seen by 99.99% of the population. They were almost mythical. People inside thought they were invincible and the fall of wall maria was a massive shock to everyone, one that galvanised not just the main characters but the entire society to move towards a war-time social order. The breech of the wall ultimately led to more than 20% of all remaining humans dying, in the movie it felt like a bit of an inconvenience at most. Everything just felt smaller and less important in the movie, the character motivation in turn became kind of petty and insignificant as a result. It was like a snowball effect that all stemmed from not propperly setting the stage. Eren just goes to the wall, it gets broken, he loses his "girlfriend" and gets a little PTSD, then joins the army for some reason.... It felt weak.

You call that a cameltoe? Put your cheeks into it!

[–] bobcat667 9 years ago

i wont argue the points cuz (and thank you for this) you actually answered my question but i will just say i felt like they did a good job of condensing it all and removing some of the annoyingness of the pilot episode.

until we meet again~

[–] LibertarianSoldier 9 years ago

Why did they have to change it from eren being eaten by a titan to makisa? It was such an unnecessary change that it killed it. Core concepts were changed. This is set in the future where as the anime was set in 845, prior to big bombs and technology. The technology being against the rules. No double entry walls? No armored titan, which set the notion for Eren titan and female titan?

Yet they focus enough details on potato girl who hardly had much role in the anime?

I enjoyed the movie for what it was but it was just too different from the anime at its core. Its one thing to condense for running time but that's not what they did. They changed entire core concepts. What they did was tantamount to taking star trek cannon and changing the core fundamental basis for the entire series.

[–] bobcat667 9 years ago

>they changed things

again, the thread is to talk about things that sucked about the movie, not changes that you dont like.

changing things doesn't make it bad, and from waht I've seen the only core concepts they've changed is (possibly) the nature of Eren and Mikasa's relationship (idk how thats going to pan out in the anime, though it does seem to be romantic to me) and possibly the why and how of the titans.

everything else isn't really core details, so much as surrounding details.

until we meet again~

[–] EndlessUniverse 9 years ago

Apart from the unfaithfulness and effects, the script was just poorly written. Firstly, Mikasa. How the hell did she survive the titan attack, leading the baby to be killed instead? If she did survive, why did she not contact Eren or Armin in the years leading up to the academy? Why would she have a grudge against either? When did she meet faux Levi, and why did he train her and her alone? In fact, why is faux Levi not training the other recruits? Does he not want them to be better fighters? Does he not wish for humanity to survive? Who is in charge of the military fighting the titans that those in upper ranks get to "choose who they train"?

There are just so many unanswered questions and holes in the movie's own logic. None of it's thoroughly explained, which makes the story hard to understand or care about. Then there's just random absurdities like the single mother coming on to Eren out of nowhere, the people in the first district trapping themselves in a church, and faux Levi instructing Eren while fighting titans.

It's all a mess.