Should've went straight to streaming
Just came off as a lazily written nostalgia bait.
sharethat would have been $340 million worldwide so far to throw away. probably good you're not in charge of that decision
shareSince when did sales equate to being a watchable movie?
sharei mean was the original ever even watchable? I couldn't finish it. this one can't be that bad. i'll be watching it on streaming .. ironically heh
share"I mean was the original ever even watchable"
Considering Warner Bros. offered Tim Burton Batman straight after, Beetlejuice is regarded as one of Michael Keaton's most popular performances, and the film has been a cult classic for 36 years, I'd say yes.
but that doesn't make any sense. beetlejuice has nothing to do with batman. they would've offered him beetlejuice 2 if the movie itself was actually regarded so well.
not finally a sequel 36 years later
i think that confuses an actor's acting performance with the movie itself, in this case
it even strengthens this case that they didn't ask for a sequel but did ask for more keaton. the acting wasn't the problem
"Beetlejuice has nothing to do with Batman"
A lot of films have nothing to do with one another but filmmakers are offered to direct big films based on their previous success. Batman was a huge ambitious film in 1989 and it was greenlit in 1988 on the back of the box-office success of Beetlejuice.
"They would've offered him Beetlejuice 2 if the movie itself was actually regarded so well"
Why? Not every film needs a sequel. Look at Top Gun in 1986. Huge box-office success and yet no interest in a sequel for years from the studios because it's only really in the last 15 years or so that Hollywood has been so short of ideas that sequels, remakes, and reboots seem to make up about 80% of their output now.
"I think that confuses an actor's performance with the movie itself"
It's a cult classic for more than just Keaton's performance. He's only in the original film for 17 minutes out of 90.
I'm not trying to convince you to like the film. If you think it's crap fair enough but you seem to be trying to downplay it's popularity.
well i was really more asking if he thought it was watchable, not whether lots of other people did.
ultimately the problem with discussion like this is that "popular" and "cult classic" can mean just about anything. i'm sure enough people liked it enough to warrant the cartoon, merchandise, probably other spinoffs and whatever else (which i think are a better argument in favor than michael keaton's job offers). i can agree that it was a cult classic. like many cult classics, probably some portion of people really liked it. even i didn't like the first one but the concept was ok enough that even i'm going to give this sequel a chance.
And with the nostalgia phenomenon and hotness factor with jenna ortega, this and the original do now reach wider appeal, probably helping to give even more rose colored illusions about the level of popularity of the original</>
regardless i agree that it was probably a cult classic and some portion of the general public likes the franchise, good ? $340 million is $340 million, if nothing else, that's certainly good enough! 👍
it even strengthens this case that they didn't ask for a sequel
They did.
The first plans for a Beetlejuice sequel came in 1990. Geffen commissioned scripts for it. Burton almost signed-up to make a film called Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian in 1991 but chose to make Batman Returns instead.
There have been intermittent plans to make a second Beetlejuice movie ever since the first one was a hit. They just didn't materialise until now.
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Oh yeah I forgot all about that. Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian sounds a bit dubious though.
sharewell okay then, if they did they did. what doesn't strengthen the case is that it takes decades to get "popular" sequels made, especially considering how sequels are often dime a dozen but hey, like i said up there 👆 there was a cartoon, merchandise etc in the meantime. people out there liked it... i didn't. i'll be watching this sequel and hopefully it's much better than the first 😏
shareYES...MOST PEOPLE RECOGNIZE BEETLEJUICE AS A MODERN CLASSIC...YOUR OPINION IS IN THE MINORITY.
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