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choosing not to be a starving artist, is considered selling out nowadays


hipsters kill me with that logic,, let's record music in our basement and keep it there, so we won't be considered impure artists.

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LOL Neither side is wrong in my opinion. I think Artists should do whatever feels right for them. Gretta was not a performer and she didn't feel comfortable in the limelight and was content with just making music for her "cat". Dave was a performer and he thrived in the limelight. He wanted to be THAT guy and ultimately was and was very good at it. They both have the right to pursue the music in the way they wanted even if it meant they would do it apart. However, I don't think anyone should be ridiculed because they want to make music for the world to enjoy in the manner they feel most comfortable in delivering it.

But your post had me cracking up.



"What happens to a dream deferred?"

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gretta should be ridiculed for her pretentious ideologies, she lives in a fantasy world, she should try and live in the real world and her selling her album for a dollar is insane and made me dislike her even more.

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Nah. Gretta was fine. She wasn't a singer at heart. She was a songwriter.

"What happens to a dream deferred?"

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What is insane is that the record company was only going to pay Greta $1 per album in the first place, then likely try to recoup some other monies from her bottom line. You dislike Greta for making probably more money than she would have otherwise. That tweet from C-Lo was better publicity than the company would have given her.



I don't hate you.....hate your parents for having you.

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It was implied that the record company was ripping her off but they would have to spend a lot more promoting the album.

It's that man again!!

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hipsters kill me with that logic, let's record music in our basement and keep it there, so we won't be considered impure artists.

Kudos for raising this topic, it's definitely relevant here. But it seems as though you didn't even watch this film because that isn't what happened at all.

choosing not to be a starving artist, is considered selling out nowadays

I agree that artists shouldn't be ashamed to promote themselves, commodify their work, or develop an image or style. Successful artists generally do all three. Labeling someone a "sellout" for that is small-minded and ignorant.

But, dismissing someone as a "hipster", "pretentious" or "living in a fantasy world" just for being cynical of the industry or believing that authenticity is what reaches listeners is just as small-minded and ignorant.

Striving for an authentic form of expression is perfectly reasonable for an artist. As is the cynical reaction to the corporate media-monopoly that manufactures pop-stars and promotes shallow, homogeneous banalities.

selling her album for a dollar is insane and made me dislike her even more.

Again, did you even watch this movie? Maybe you missed the part during the negotiation where the record label offered her one dollar out-of-every-ten of the sales profits? This kind of cut has been the status quo for decades (in fact I think it's usually even less than that). She was clever and understood the changing business culture much better than you do.

Thanks to the internet many artists are now going the independent route. They generally make make fewer sales but own a hundred percent of the take. It's a brave new world and I like it. I just hope that she was decent enough to compensate Dan properly for his perception, hard work, and commitment.



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That's a good point about her compensating Dan. I think she said something about splitting everything equally with everybody including Dan.

Great post by the way.

"What happens to a dream deferred?"

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She would be very lucky to get a dollar for a record. Most people no longer buy cd's. They rip songs off for free and feel no guilt. A band or singer has to play concerts and charge at the door. Even then cheap asses try to sneak in.

They pay more for a beer or parking than they are willing to pay musicians.

I don't know everything. Neither does anyone else

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