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Hitler would support this film.


It's incredibly fascist. You could look at the film in at least two ways and both of them lead back to Fascism.

1. The guy in his self-appointed fury rationalizes the killing of people he deems unworthy to live. He even finds others (the girl) to support his philosophy and conquest. Hitler, Naziism, and the Holocaust anyone? And before you say "It's just a movie"...this is exactly the point the film is speaking to--making broad sweeping generalizations about groups of people and punishing them for being part of that group--in a glorified way. This is Fascist propaganda in the same vein of Goebbal's films. Had the guy not acted on his hatred of specific groups, the people in those specific groups would have lived. I don't think there's any doubt that the "final solution" would not have occurred without Hitler in power.

2. Further dissecting the film through the "fourth wall". The film is pure propaganda with a main storyline that espouses the destruction of anyone who "spreads fear to the masses". Really? Isn't this film really doing the same? Propaganda (Webster's):

-the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

-ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also: a public action having such an effect

This film turned itself into what it hates the most. They kill some satire of a talk show host because he is "mean", and admittedly because of his politics. Let me stop right here and say that I'm independent, and I mostly hate the bullsh** from both sides. I do not support Fascism, however, which is why I choose to point out this film's Fascist leanings here. Fascism doesn't work without propaganda--it slowly convinces the masses to segregate themselves from those people they deem "lower" than themselves--effectively building a wall around their society and demonizing outsiders.

Bobcat. Seriously? This is a guy who made a career out of pretending he was drunk or speaking unintelligibly. Now he realizes he's on the back nine of his life and he wants to make a statement. A statement? Not really. He's doing exactly what the film says is idiotic: Pretending to be edgy by espousing the same crap that is said every day by people with the same beliefs. Anyway, that rant is over, doesn't matter anyway.

New post: PLOT HOLES

1. How can the audition for this American Idol type show be happening (where they start following the Steven kid) in the beginning of the show and then like a week later, the finale is happening? I know these spree killers weren't able to do what they were doing for an entire season of the show, especially with their faces all over TV.

2. And how could the girl, with her face on TV, just go back to her parents, no problem? No one would ask where she had been, or why she was recorded exiting a theater after a mass shooting?

3. What about the network of the singing show keeping the show on air after a madman starts killing people? Would never happen. No way this guy shoots up the place and then is able to make some crazy gunman speech on live national television.

4. (subtle plot inconsistency) If they hate it so much, why are they watching satire of this ultra Conservative talk show? At his home, in the hotel room...they sure watch a lot of it for something they hate. I just don't watch things I don't want to...


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You do know this was a movie right? Me thinks you read a little more into it than your average viewer.

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This is Fascist propaganda in the same vein of Goebbal's films. Had the guy not acted on his hatred of specific groups, the people in those specific groups would have lived.


I possess intense hatred for fascists and would act out on my hatred of this specific group under a little better circumstances.

I guess I'm a fascist too. Hail Roxy!

~Lance

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I hate people who misuse the term "plot hole." I'd like to shoot you in the face.

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The one big difference being that, in the movie, Frank hates people for what they do, not for what they are.

Plus, you know, it's just a movie.

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Oh, whatever. Democratic nations kill people too, the only difference between the Nazis and us is that the Nazis killed specific groups of people and our country kills everyone equally. We're all perfectly happy to accept it and forget about it as long as we gain from it or are distanced by it.

The rest of your points I'm divided on. Some of them you could chalk it up to "movie magic" or maybe they had to cut stuff out of the film before the final cut was printed and that gives it some incoherence. By that point though, I think that most people have already decided to like or hate the movie, regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

Me personal wtf moment in this film: How did the girl get to the show theater? How did she know? Did she have a wild hunch? Had she been attending all the shows waiting for Frank to arrive?

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In killing people he deems unworthy to live, Frank was not behaving in a manner that Hitler would approve of. He was behaving like many far right or far left extremists (mostly far left, actually) - whether lone nutcases or dictators. Hitler was not even the most extreme example of the type. Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot all killed more "undesirables" than Hitler did.

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I'd only kill teenagers and people that talk at the movies



I know, remember that scene in scary movie 2

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Charlie Chaplin did a satire on Hitler (his only full talkie) and had to leave the good ole' US of A because of it. The American people had yet to get on board as to what was going on and getting involved.

Most of the country preferred to be isolationist so it was a task for Roosevelt to get the buy-in to go to war. The Brits were begging for our help because the Nazi's were making their way over there.

Hitler would not understand this type of movie or satire.

I'll never understand why there are people who have this need to always make comparisons to Hitler or even mention the bastard.

USA is a fascist country, dictated by souless, dirty, greedy corporations.

If I should ever be blessed to win the lottery, I will leave.

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