1. I agree that Stan knew the machine could destroy the universe but wanted his brother back. He must also have known that it has been used before without the universe being destroyed. So he must have thought there was a good chance nothing super bad would happen.
Stocking up for the Apocalypse
remember, this happened before he got all the journals and turned on the machine. I think he was preparing for the apocalypse Bill is planning. I finally decided to decode the messages in the book "Dipper's and Mabel's Guide to Mystery" and there is a passage that says "The end of the world is closer than the end of the summer."
2: Yes, I saw it. I also went back to "Gideon Rises" and the hand print is not there. (But all the cracks in the walls and stairs are the same.) I think the author may have been doing some time traveling and left this piece of evidence behind. (We still don't know why Blendin was at the crash site in "Gideon Rises" so time travel must be coming back at some point.)
And the hand print is in such an odd place. My theory is that he was badly ingured, and while going down the stairs (based on the location of the thumb), he put his hand on the wall to steady himself.
Did you notice that when they are going down the elevator, they pass a door. I want to know whats on the second floor.
4: agree
5: agree. I also loved her original idea of taking out the guards and doing a flip through the door.
6: agree. I also thought she would get sucked in. Especially when they showed that picture breaking, I was like, "Oh no! Something bad happened to Mabel!"
Speaking of Bill, where does he fit into all of this? What is his endgame? And Stan's brother may be back, having gone through the portal, but what else could've gone through unnoticed? Suppose the "Stan is not what he seems" message isn't about Stanford, but Stanley (assuming that's his name), the Author. I think the "Stan Pines is Dead" headline was Stanford faking Stanley's death to explain his disappearance and Stanford had all those fake I.D.'s simply because he's a con artist. I don't think he took his brother's identity, I think he really is Dipper and Mabel's Grunkle, I theorize that the man who came out of the portal is not the real Author or the real Stanley Pines, or it is but he's not the ally they think he is. Either he made a deal with Bill (possibly before he realized he was evil) or after thirty years who knows where, he changed. I don't know, I think it would be interesting if that were the case.
I think Bill's plan is to destroy are perception of reality. At least thats what I think the code at the end of "Sock Opera" is implying. Also, when the title card shows, it flips upside down. Turning reality on its head.
As I mentioned somewhere above, I think the "Stan Pines Dead" thing is about Stans father, and Grunkle Stan is Stan Pines Jr. (I think Soos wanting to change his name to Stan Jr. was a reminder that people can have the same name).
Early in the episode, Grunkle said something like "siblings shouldn't get along." I think its an obvious hint that Grunkle and Stanly are not on good terms.
I also think Stanly was working with Bill, or maybe someone possessed by Bill (Maybe Soos' grandfather). If you have found the Blindeye, one of the codes says "I was so blind. He lied to me. The darkness is near."
Here's another thing I want to mention, in the "Guide to Mystery" there is a passage that says, "Time Baby is worried about Bill." haven't yet decided on what I think this means.
One last thing. I feel so bad for Soos. He has been looking at Grunkle Stan like a father since he was 12, and to find out Grunkle has been hidding such a big secret must have been devastating.
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Acceler8
10 years ago
So what's the last scene over the end credits? A flashback to the mystery twins as kids?
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Happy_Chaos
10 years ago
remember, this happened before he got all the journals and turned on the machine. I think he was preparing for the apocalypse Bill is planning.
Good point! See I figured Bill's plans had to do with the portal, it didn't occur to me that maybe Bill's plans could center around something completely different. I thought that Bill was keeping Dipper from discovering the portal, knowing he would stop it, or wanted Dipper to stop it so Bill could use it for his own purposes. I haven't been able to get my hands on the book "Dipper and Mabel's guide to Mystery and Non-Stop Fun" yet so I was unaware of that passage. Interesting...since the Apocalypse has already been attributed to the Portal, from the countdown on McGuckett's laptop to the warning in the journals, I think it's possible that by not shutting down the machine, they have now inadvertently set the apocalypse in motion and it's not as instantaneous as they might have assumed. Stan's brother may have gotten through, along with who knows what.
I also thought she would get sucked in. Especially when they showed that picture breaking, I was like, "Oh no! Something bad happened to Mabel!"
And then there was the fact that when it was over and they were picking themselves up, Mabel was absent until the very end, I was expecting Dipper to be all, "Where's Mabel?". It would've been quite the cliffhanger had that happened, especially considering of all the characters you'd think Dipper and Mabel would be safe. In a way I think it would've been awesome to have a balsy cliffie like that, but at the same time I'm glad they didn't go that route. I think it would've been too much.
I hope the picture breaking wasn't foreshadowing symbolism because I'd hate to see a Dipper VS Mabel thing happening (though I can see Dipper being angry that Mabel chose to trust Stan over him, if he decides to see it that way), at least not for more than an episode because they're at their best when working together, their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other so perfectly.
One last thing. I feel so bad for Soos. He has been looking at Grunkle Stan like a father since he was 12, and to find out Grunkle has been hiding such a big secret must have been devastating.
Oh me too! When Soos attacked Stan and was all, "Sorry Mr. Pines, I have a new mission now, protecting these kids!" I was like, "Go Soos!" but at the same time felt bad for him for having been put in that kind of position. It was as much of a betrayal to Soos as it was to Dipper and Mabel, maybe even more so.
I also went back to "Gideon Rises" and the hand print is not there. (But all the cracks in the walls and stairs are the same.) I think the author may have been doing some time traveling and left this piece of evidence behind. (We still don't know why Blendin was at the crash site in "Gideon Rises" so time travel must be coming back at some point.)
And the hand print is in such an odd place. My theory is that he was badly ingured, and while going down the stairs (based on the location of the thumb), he put his hand on the wall to steady himself.
Oh I love that idea with the Author and Time Travel! I wonder at what point in the Author's timeline he left that print?
I noticed the door as well and I too wonder what's behind that door! The Mystery Shack is full of so much mystery! Secret rooms and passages...so much mystery! So much potential for more!
Also, I wonder if this means we'll be seeing Gideon again soon. The gravity anomalies tore so much of the town apart so I bet it resulted in Gideon escaping jail. And what else does this mean for Stan? He'll either have to go on the lam, turn himself in or find a convincing way to get the Agents off his back after this (assuming they didn't die from that inevitable drop). So much potential fallout from this, man, I'm dying to see what happens next.
So many questions...it seems that with every question answered, three more take its place. That's a sign of great writing and a great mystery! Man I love this show!
"Hot Belgian Waffles! Wait! I'm alone, I can swear for real! Son of a--" Stan Pines
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