Personally I don't understand Taffer's hate of young, sexy, early twenty year olds getting nude in a bar. I'd be rather pleased if I was to accidentally find myself in such an establishment. I'd probably stick around, watch the free show and have a few drinks. Probably wind up taking one of the chicks home.
shareBecause its inappropriate. Unless these are strip clubs, which the vast majority are not. Keep that junk in the strip clubs or the swingers clubs where it belongs, not in a bar where they need to cultivate more decent, well-off female patrons in order to improve their bottom lines.
shareAll I know is there are plenty of successful bars where I live that have been around 40+ years that have all kinds of crazy things going on nudity included, and it doesn't scare away female customers as taffer claims, and they certainly aren't doing this flair bartending garbage taffer is always peddling either.
shareI'm sure there are nasty-ass parts of the country where crazy antics and nudity in bars appeals to the low-class patrons. I was a bar and restaurant mystery shopper and when I encountered bar employees engaging in crazy antics and promoting sexualized activities and nudity, I always provided a detailed report to the bar owners so that these employees could be immediately fired and sent packing.
There are many places where a bar owner will lose their license over nudity when alcohol is being served. Totally inappropriate and definitely reason for immediate firing. Glad to get rid of low-lifes who engage in that sort of garbage.
Taffer claims his reasoning for being against nudity is because it's "illegal" and bars will lose their license and because it scares female customers away neither of which has been true for many bars nor has stopped many bars from being successful, I never implied the bartenders were flashing people but you really can't stop patrons from flashing people if you don't see it, also this isn't a "low-class" issue I've been to high class places that get crazy too sorry to burst your bubble.
shareAnywhere that nudity breaks out in public, whether it be by the customers or the employees, is pretty low class as far as I'm concerned.
shareAre you kidding me? If you can find me a successful bar that does these things that Taffer "doesn't like," it is more than likely an exception to the rule.
It's totally illegal in many (and likely most) jurisdictions to "flash" at a bar. A number of states don't even allow full nudity in strip clubs. Many even have to wear pasties. If they're not licensed correctly are are "flashing," they'll lose their liquor license and then they're out of business.
Those laws don't cover patrons, but most bars don't put up with that level of sleaze and would remove those patrons immediately if they saw that kind of behavior.
No, not the mind probe!
Those bars sound boring as hell, you put too much faith in the law when you say "they'll lose their liquor license" there are many circumstances and a lot of county's and cities aren't gonna revoke those kind of licenses when it will cost them huge profits just because some skin is shown.
shareSleaze is absolutely right. I don't go to a bar to watch drunk women showing off their body parts, especially if I'm there with a date or with friends or a business associate or my daughters (they are in their 20's). I don't care much for Taffer, but I'm all in favor of shutting down these scumbag showoffs who insist on showing off their skin to people who really don't necessarily want to see it.
It's a shame when decent people can't go out and have a nice time without being subjected to low class low lifes.
If you want family friendly entertainment go to a restaurant with a bar and stay away from the real bars.
shareBars don't have to be havens for low-lifes or sleaze pits. A bar can be a nice place to have a good time without drunken women exposing themselves.
shareThat's some holier than thou mentality there.
Like the poster before said, I'm that a Chili's or a TGI Friday's can accommodate you.
That's some holier than thou mentality there.
And respectable bar patrons should not have to go to a restaurant to have a few drinks if they would prefer to go to a bar
He seems to be under this false impression that his view is the only correct view in the world, many great bars have went out of business because of stuck up idiots like him, there are people that like rowdy bars, fast women and loud heavy music and they drink beer and whiskey not some off the wall mixed drinks, if someone doesn't like those places they shouldn't go there they have no right to change them, if he tried his garbage at some local places here he would be thrown out on his ear by the owner himself.
sharemany great bars have went out of business because of stuck up idiots like him
What bars are you speaking of? I'm not talking about any bars on Bar Rescue, you were complaining about bars like that you've been to in person and you implied that every bar should be a place to bring clients and your daughters, no bar is under any obligation to cater to people like your or your friends or family and there are thousands of successful ones who don't, but you implied that every bar should have to bend to your will and not have drunk patrons or nudity just because you said so.
shareI think you need to re-read the discussion.
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and i think you are mistaking a bar for either a restaurant or a chucky cheese's.
shareBTW, the last bar I mystery shopped, a so-called "high class" venue, had a number of staff members who encouraged attractive female patrons to remove their underwear or bra in exchange for a free drink. Completely inappropriate and it made for a very uncomfortable clientele. Several paying guests paid their tabs and left, and it was clear that the only people "enjoying" the show were a bunch of seriously drunk males.
Fortunately I documented the incidents, named all of the employees involved, reported them to ownership, who fired them all. Promoting nudity in a bar is tacky, low-class, disconcerting, and unprofessional. Glad to see these idiots get canned for their disturbing actions.
"BTW, the last bar I mystery shopped, a so-called "high class" venue, had a number of staff members who encouraged attractive female patrons to remove their underwear or bra in exchange for a free drink. Completely inappropriate and it made for a very uncomfortable clientele. Several paying guests paid their tabs and left, and it was clear that the only people "enjoying" the show were a bunch of seriously drunk males.
Fortunately I documented the incidents, named all of the employees involved, reported them to ownership, who fired them all. Promoting nudity in a bar is tacky, low-class, disconcerting, and unprofessional. Glad to see these idiots get canned for their disturbing actions. "
wow, i almost feel sorry for you. did you report someone that was drinking a beer in a park on your way home as well?
Youre a fool. The person who reported the disgusting behavior did the right thing and performed the duties of their job as a mystery shopper. A woman does not go to a bar to be encouraged to remove her undergarments for free drinks.
shareThat's because you're a slutty douche bag...
shareI live in Las Vegas, a place with a ton of bars. None of the bars I or my friends have been to have people stripping off their clothes like that. Most places will kick people out for that type of thing. Even places with rock concerts would never allowned that. There are places between Applebees/Chuck e Cheese and strip club. Not all adults want to see people shoving body parts in their face, most probaby wouldn't. What about people that want to go to a bar with a date or friends? They should just expect practically naked people everywhere? Public nudity is a crime, not everyone is a criminal, bars are public places. Nobody is saying everywhere has to ban this, but it's not appropriate purely because it's a bar. Not everyone goes to a bar to get blackout drunk, or even to drink at all.
share"What about people that want to go to a bar with a date or friends?"
who in their right mind already has a date and then takes her to a bar??
who in their right mind has friends that dislike nudity?
"Public nudity is a crime, not everyone is a criminal, bars are public places."
yeah, give em the death penalty, right?
"Not everyone goes to a bar to get blackout drunk, or even to drink at all. "
yeah, and not everybody goes to a restaurant to eat. ;)
Yeah is Jon sexist?
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