What was with Jared Leto and his fembot's mustache-twirling villainy? - Blade Runner 2049 (2017) Discussion

[–] clickbait (193) 7 years ago

good question...like most things in this movie, nothing really made any sense, the script is really weak unless it will be a third movie.

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[–] paulsdhart (277) 7 years ago

Found this on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/74gv4o/blade_runner_2049_spoilers/

submitted 6 days ago by Oski_1234
Before this theory/speculation begins, let's establish Nianda Wallaces intentions. Nianda Wallace (played by Jared Leto) aspires to recreate the perfect "Rachael" to trick Deckard into revealing the location of their secret daughter, so Wallace can understand the secret to the unique replicants ability to reproduce. So he doesn't have to rely on slave labor as much.
Theory:
Luv (Nianda Wallaces guard) is a failed replicant of Rachael. Her super human abilities weren't intentional and were just a defect from a failed attempt, which is also why Nianda Wallace decided to keep her. There are countless scenes referencing the fact that she's "imperfect" and "flawed" and Wallace constantly reminds her of it. I,e: a scene where Wallace kills a newly born replicant to show Luv that she is more perfect because of her womb (which Luv does not have) this results in Luv crying because of how imperfect she feels. she crys every time she is reminded of this and aspires to always show Wallace that she is the "better one/replicant."
Moral of the movie is pretty much: no one is special, everyone is the same. We see this moral through the main characters, with joe, he notices that Joi is nothing but a product who treats everyone as if they're "special" he realizes that she calls everyone "joe" and he is no different. With Dekard, he realizes that the one person that made him feel special, I,e: Rachael. Was staged to specifically fall in love with Dekard to test her reproductive abilities with another replicant. With Luv it's when she gets beaten by joe and relishes that she in fact wasn't "the best."

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[–] Batty67 (358) 7 years ago

Niander Wallace acting like a strange god-like figure is because, as the world's richest and most powerful man, pretty much IS god-like. And I suspect anyone who attains that kind of power would act like a supremely arrogant spoiled tool. For one thing, besides being blind but with multiple digital options for how to see the world, he can easily allow Luv to waltz in and out of LAPD HQ with no worries, even allowing her to kill a LT. in charge of blade runner operations (which I thought was far-fetched).

Luv, like Gosling's Agent K, are replicants whose genetically coded/behavioral baseline can be tested, do not act quite like normal humans. Per the new replicants, they OBEY. K is subservient, even avoiding eye contact with those who insult him (attack him would get a very different response). Luv however, is an all-powerful, super-human (so is K, he runs through a marble wall) who bows to no one but Niander Wallace, and he wants results. So, she treats all others with disdain and will kill in a heartbeat...though she hesitated a BIT before killing Lt. Joshi.

She's ruthless and that's how Wallace wants her, and she DESIRES to be the best angel.

I do not think it is an accident that she looks a lot like Rachel.

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[–] Loveman (17) 7 years ago

Yes. I found it a shame and to the detriment of the movie that we are presented with a psychotic mega-villain in Wallace. In the original movie, Roy Batty asks of Deckard: “Aren’t you the good-man?” And we are left to think about it. In 2049, we have this spelled out for us: Wallace is utterly evil, end of.

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[–] Batty67 (358) 7 years ago

Well, maybe not. He's clearly at the point of material wealth meaning nothing. How much richer, powerful, and famous could he get?

He's in it for CONQUEST of the stars through replicants who can reproduce biologically. Of course, how could THAT go wrong... That is, imposing his will on the future of the species...back to god-like person and dreams. As such, I can see how many of his views could be argued to transcend "simple notions" of good vs. evil. But when a person is that powerful and utterly above the law, they just think and act differently and probably are not even aware of doing so.

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[–] Loveman (17) 7 years ago

We witness Wallace using a scalpel to slice open a conscious (meaning unanaesthetised) person, he allows them to bleed to death. There is no question as to the notions of good and evil here: This is the bad guy doing his deranged evil stuff. We see it and we instantly know he is evil.
The fact Wallace was trying to create replicants capable of procreation is a great idea which could have been played in a more subtle manner so as to leave the audience uncertain as to his motives and what the eventual outcome of his actions might be.

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[–] Batty67 (358) 7 years ago

Fair point Loveman. That was evil from our perspective. From his, it was showing his irritation and ability to destroy something he just made to make a point he likely had made many times before to Luv. All of that stated, it seemed out of place, even for his all-powerful strangeness.

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[–] Renovatio (2990) 7 years ago

OP, that's what I loved about his character... Finally a proper antagonist!

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