The Ghost - Powers (2015) Discussion

[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

I have not read the comics, so I cant help out. I believe he has the power of density control, which would allow him to pass thru things or things pass thru him. Also I believe he can increase the density pressure on an object like crushing it. In the senator's autopsy, they mentionds pounds and pressure enough to do a certain thing. It looked like Supershock did it at first, but he passed up an earlier opportunity. Also in a flashback, a victim dies a certain way, but Superdhock had not arrived on scene, but I think Ghost was there. Density control also may also him to heal or stop aging or slow aging. Or they might just give him the no or slow age power.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

I think he is a future Crispin and has, at least, the power of time travel based on episode 8. This episode you really notice how similar they look.

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

I noticed how similar they looked also. At first I thought it was the actor playing Ghost who was in that box. I dont know if time travel is an element of this story arc yet. Do you think Ghost is time traveling when he goes poof ?
Keep in mind shows with a built up suspense element sometimes cast actors and actress who look very similar, just like when they cast people who look way different. At the moment, I do consider it a possibility Krispen and Ghost are connected in some way. This show does like to throw curveballs out of left field.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

I think his time travel abilities were alluded to in two ways, the cash register and jiminey cricket in the audio for the interview (my first thought was he calling from another time.
2. The Ghost was helping lots of early artists with their records, which he has original prints, easy to do with time travel. He doesn't age but I doubt immortal since they poof as you say.
3. Crispin has heard all the music before. He could have told them what to make since he knows the hits. Probably mentioned in an earlier season his love of music, dunno.
3. Crispin still hates the powers, and his goal was to kill them. The Ghost is killing off the icon power team so their goals align.
4. I still think the original prints of all those records hints the most at time travel. Could pay for the store by investing tiny amount in an early stock market since no customers.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

Oh and Crispin also said "i dont know what my powers are." He didn't die. He didn't use a power to kill the cop. He could have a mobile drainer to take out powers.
They thought they killed the Ghost but they never saw the body and seems Crispin can't die either. So similar on that front.

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

I did think the cash register was odd, and the music being from a long time ago was unique. Just to play devil's advocate, but if he could time travel, why wouldnt he take out his victims when they were younger ?

Krispen died in earlier episode, lets say 1 month show time as compared to 2 months real time. He came back pretty quick after jumping off the building.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

Both sure on the time line of his death, but for why not kill them when younger, he may have reasons. May have tried and then was defeated (when they reported his defeat) and if you can't beat them in their prime, beat them when they are washed up.
Who knows, he may not know where they lived as kids.
But ultimately, that's what happens with a second season plot lol

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

Thanks for the discussion. I was initially leaning to the power of density control as his foundation. My guess right now is they have ghost using some aspect of time travel indirectly. For example the Flash can fly if he spins his arms at superspeed. And the writers may be using goofy logic.

And Ghost didnt use his powers when he knifed that cop in the record store

Maybe we could start a profile on Ghost. :)

More into manipulation than death. he could have killed those germans in the nest during World War 1, but wanted a lowly soldier to do it. Ghost was in the background during World War 2. He manipulated the music industry, and maybe even had John Lennon killed ... Just wanted to take a wild guess prediction based on the show's structure. Supershock mentions how long Supershock has been around. Is there any mention of Ghost being around before World War 1 ? Ghost is also European looking.

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[–] DanceMasterFlash 9 years ago

I hadn't thought of it, but you might be onto something with the "manipulation" angle. SuperShock said something to Walker in episode 8 about The Ghost being the one who invented the game of destruction, or something like that. I forget the exact quote. That's pretty much like coming right out and calling him the Devil.

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

My first thought when they showed Ghost in World War, I did not know he was a power, but I thought it was oddly significant to show him. I was thinking why didnt he lead his men tactically to take out the nest as compared to ordering that guy to go in there. that is "manipulating form behind the scenes". The they showed a picture of Ghost from World War 2, and said there he is in the background.

Did they say Ghost has a sense of conflict and goes to the scene and amplifies trouble or does he make trouble on his own ?

I am wondering if he has some type of psychic energy field detection of chaos or maybe a premonition of destiny or did he intentionally open the doorway to the Beatles ? I did not exactly get that part.

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[–] hughiebyrne 9 years ago

Are theyre gaps or other episodes im missing. just watched episode seven where the youg patrick mentions the ghost. i watch episode 8 and suddenly Present day Patrick is in the pre show summary talking to Walker about The Ghost. Then the episode starts and walker is researching the Ghost???

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

I did not notice any gaps. Did you happen to cath the end credits where Supershock and Walker have a chat ?

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

The shows just don't start immediately where the others left off is all.

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[–] meira-hand 8 years ago

Not sure you will see this before the boards go away (unless you have e-mail notification on replies), but still...

The shows just don't start immediately where the others left off is all.

Not exactly. In season 2 there is an extra short scene after the credits, for EACH episode. When I found it out (via another post somewhere), I went back and re-watched the season and it explained a lot. I understand the concept of Easter eggs on DVDs, but why do it during regular broadcast? Maybe they wanted to push people to buy the DVDs?

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

I think he is Krispen. There is additional info in the newest episode that alludes to this imo. Also, Kristen knows all the popular hits from back when iTunes and stuff. If he can time travel it wouldn't be difficult to help shape the bands and make money to fund what you wanted to do. He's always had the goal to destroy powers from season 1.
That would explain how he has first prints of greatest hits. Easy to get them early if you already know what will be a hit.

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[–] DanceMasterFlash 9 years ago

After seeing episode 9, I'm inclined to agree with you about the "premonition of destiny" thing. He was just sitting in his yard waiting for Pilgrim to arrive, and immediately seemed aware of her presence when she showed up behind him, even though she didn't make a sound.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

I think the knife in the store was due to that material it was made out of (ep 9) so I think it will play a bigger part later. I think he was indirectly sending a message.

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[–] DanceMasterFlash 9 years ago

Interesting. That hadn't crossed my mind. I'm just hoping The Ghost makes it through the end of this season and into the next. Very intriguing character.

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[–] nicholasctracy 9 years ago

I think the Ghost is Krispen and dies at the end of the season (Krispen would live though) since if he is immortal, he'd probably want to die by then.

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[–] merlinswingman 9 years ago

Well The Ghost is smart enough to have a shell corporation, and he was just sitting there watching and waiting ... cue diabolical villian music ...

I think the knife material was just a plot device for Pilgrom to search out and find The Ghost.

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[–] AmaliaYes 9 years ago

I haven't read the comic book, but after seeing the whole season, I'm going on record as saying that Morrison (The Ghost) was the best thing about it. So cool!

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