It was clear, with the mess the country was in, that whoever came into office would be stepping into a nasty pile.
Choosing Palin, a joke candidate, for VP was a clear indication of the GOP's determination to NOT win. Probably, the heads of the party were surprised at the extent to which she ended up being taken seriously.
Definitely the movie shows a campaign that was more willing to get a doctor to secretly observe a candidate than just drop them from the ticket! After couric and conservatives demanding her removal why else keep her on the ticket unless there was some desire to lose. Wallace didn't even vote for McCain!!
share"Definitely the movie shows a campaign that was more willing to get a doctor to secretly observe a candidate than just drop them from the ticket!"And they were probably greatly relieved when the doctor said Palin was fine.
"After couric and conservatives demanding her removal why else keep her on the ticket unless there was some desire to lose.The Wallace didn't even vote for McCain!!"Alot of republicans didn't vote for McCain. share
at least one republican working to elect mccain didn't vote for him because of Palin! Nicolle wallace said she didn't even vote for him! LOL.
The doctor didn't witness what schmidt and the wallaces witnessed and did not do a real examination. They hire a doctor but dont let him do a real examination so what was the point of that doctor. He said "not half bad" but for a VP candidate what does that mean? Then after the doctor observes her at bbq she became a horrible monster again! It was just a bbq. Mccain said he was afraid of her.
Oh, I think they wanted to win, they perhaps knew they couldn't win though.
shareThey absolutely wanted to win. They thought American independents would be swayed for McCain if they had a "Hillary Clinton" on their side. Their campaign picked the wrong female plain and simple. She was a token pretty female candidate from the get go and that is what Fox news does with their anchors, and American people saw through it. I feel sorry for how Sarah was treated, but she did sign up for that role. She also does not do any favors to future female candidates by quitting her job as governor of Alaska for money over serving the citizens of the state that voted her in office in the first place.
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The question over wanting to win is a legitimate one because after the couric interview when she was destroyed and was destroying the McCain campaign they kept her! Why? Everyone in the campaign hated her too! McCain said he was afraid of her! So why did they keep the ticket destroying and internal war creating palin on the ticket? She was nothing but destruction for the ticket internally and externally!
shareRight, people spend years working insane hours and incredibly stressful conditions because they DON'T want to win. Of course they wanted to win. They kept Palin because dumping her would have been worse for the campaign.
You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi
It just impossible that dropping the McCain campaign destroying Palin would have been bad for McCain winning the presidency. She was arguably the number two reason why he lost. Why he fell in the polls. She was right up there in why McCain lost. She provided no benefit for the McCain campaign. They had the perfect excuse too! Hiring a doctor to observe her at the bbq! They were all afraid of her mental state.
shareWe'll never know for sure, but I argue that dropping her would have been worse for the campaign. Disastrous. And certainly that is how the campaign managers saw it. Palin had legions of fervent followers who would have been furious about her getting dropped. She made the comment that SHE was the one bringing in donations, she was the one people were coming out to see. Dropping her would have pissed off a lot of people, and the campaign never would have recovered. That's even if she didn't do anything to actively sabotage McCain's campaign, and I believe she would have.
And then there is the issue that to replace her, the campaign would basically have to admit that they completely screwed up by choosing her in the first place. Whatever reason they would come up with for dropping her, including her mental state which you are so fixated on, the way it would play in the political sphere is, they should have found this out before they committed to her. If McCain can't even run a campaign without screwing up these basic things, how is he going to run the country?
This is why they kept her, because dropping her from the ticket would have been worse. It's a terrible position they were in, but they did it to themselves.
You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi
Schmidt and McCain agreed to have that doctor observe her at the BBQ because of her mental state. If they revealed that I think that would have ended a lot of base support for Palin. But maybe they felt they would look bad for hiring a doctor to secretly observe her? But they hold a press conference and say they hiring a doctor to observe Palin because of what people are calling catatonic stupors and if she passes formal evaluation by a doctor she will continue on the ticket. Or they don't do that and just say they were on the verge of hiring a doctor to observe her and just drop her!
"And then there is the issue that to replace her, the campaign would basically have to admit that they completely screwed up by choosing her in the first place."
Every time she spoke a reporter like Couric with her unable to name anything she read or Gibson revealing she didn't know what the universally known Bush Doctrine was she was displaying the McCain completely screwed up. Her speaking was showing the McCain campaign screwed up.
"Whatever reason they would come up with for dropping her, including her mental state which you are so fixated on, the way it would play in the political sphere is, they should have found this out before they committed to her. If McCain can't even run a campaign without screwing up these basic things, how is he going to run the country?"
The movie is so fixated on her mental state with characters talking about catatonic stupors and complete nervous breakdowns! I am only reflecting the movie and what Schmidt and Wallace describe as total fact!
McCain could have said there was no way to predict that his pick would have catatonic stupors or a nervous breakdown! That he would need to get a doctor to observe her.
Didn't want to win in 2012 too.
shareGOP couldn't win! They knew that going in; the whole Obama manic movement was inIts full peak. And the media had spoken on it even during the primaries. He was unstoppable and poor McCain knew it; all he could do is his best to make a show in the already lost campaign.
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I think that they did want to win in BUT after 9/11, 2 wars, Katrina, and the stock market collapse, they had pretty slim chances. What the GOP did do after losing was to try and blame everything Bush had done on Obama. Remember, the tea party was formed as an outrage against Bush's TARP, but the GOP managed to convince these people that no, no, they were actually mad about the Affordable Care Act, which hadn't passed yet, but Dems were giving town halls to try to get input on what people wanted healthcare to include. Astro-turf groups co-opted the tea party, FoxNews & conservative radio promoted this new version of it, the town hall meetings became nothing but hate-fests, and the rest is history.
At least there will be plenty implied.