Cap does not have super powers.
As a expert in Marvel comics and captain America from the 60's into the 70's it has been established that all the super solder did was allow Rogers body to reach PEAK performance that is possiable.
According to Marvel canon the super solder formula wore off years ago and its Caps intence training that has kept his body in peak shape.
Captain America does not have super powers.
Nuff said
What's true in the comics is not always going to be true in the films.
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Where in the films does it show Cap with powers?
shareHe may not have powers like telekinesis. But his strength in the MCU is (IMO) Superhuman and not just 'absolute peak human' (and yes, I'm aware of what the director of the first film has said, but the 'peak human' element can only go so far and to me he's done things that even an absolute utter peak human should not be able to do/survive). I normally don't like using others answers, but the following answer on the following page I think makes excellent points:
From http://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/15829/does-captain-america-possess-superhuman-strength-in-the-mcu
the MCU is an amalgamation of 616 universe and 1610 universe and the cap portrayed by chris gets his characteristic traits from 616 universe and his powers from 1610 universe, the evidences are, in the movie Captain America: The Winter Soldier:
1. Right in the first scene after completing his jog, we see Falcon (presumably a peak human or at least above average human in intense conditioning) drenched in sweat and panting like hell, but Steve who completed the circuit in far lesser time and at greater speed didn't sweat a drop or pant a bit, this shows Captain's super human stamina.
2. In the climax fight in one of the drones, after the Winter Soldier got struck under a huge metal beam (which looked like it could weigh at least a ton (2204 pounds)) Steve lifted that beam high and long enough so that Bucky can come out, this shows Captain's super human strength, saying this as MARVEL states the highest possible weight a peak human can lift is 500 kgs (1,110 lbs).
3. Cap got blasted through a bus from a flyover above (3 storey high) at considerably great speed (due to grenade impact on his shield) and he even jumped from the 30th storey of treskilion and landed on streets (but used his shield to cushion the fall but if you can jump from 30th floor with a heavy pillow or shield to cushion and you are still unharmed then fine !) these feats shows cap's super human durability as any other human in the above situation would have simply died due to severe body damage.
4. In the elevator scene Cap got tased multiple times with the stun baton and was being tased continuously for 5 seconds and was still resisting it, whereas humans would get unconscious within a second of contact from a stun baton, super human durability right.
5. In a scene where Falcon was carrying Captain over the air he said "you are heavier than you look" which means due to super soldier serum his bones and muscles got denser and thus heavier, making him heavier than he looks, the end result his body is so many times durable and resilient to damage than human.
6. Right from Captain America 1 to Cap 2 whenever Cap punched or kicked a human they tend to fly several meters away in the air, this shows his super human strength (the kinda strength to send a fully grown man with his equipment several meters away in air with his strike power) and I haven't seen any peak human do that till now.
7. In Captain America: The First Avenger Cap was shown chasing a car across the city and he was keeping his pace with the car and even managed to catch the car, which implies Cap can run at a speed which is somewhere between 37 - 49 miles per hour, and that's a genuine super human speed.
According to Marvel canon the super solder formula wore off years ago and its Caps intence training that has kept his body in peak shape.
I can accept that Cap has the most basic superhuman strength in the MCU. To me, he's able to build strength off from being in Peak condition. I truly believe in the MCU, he started off as peak strength, and then after much training and testing his body..his body adapts and grows stronger. It makes sense. If his body is at peak, his body can adapt to mostly anything. If he's at peak, his body has the potential to grow stronger. Anyways, that's how i see it.
shareI don't know, he fights off about a dozen guys in an elevator while getting zapped with a bad-azz taser. He hits the cables on the elevator hard enough for them to snap. He jumps out of the elevator, falls twenty or so floors onto his shield, gets up and rides away on his motor cycle.
He later gets shot several times and still is able to defeat Bucky.
And, in case you didn't see the first movie, he said he can't get drunk because one of the side-effects of the serum was that his body metabolizes at least 4 times as quickly.
Which also explains why he could be frozen for 70 years and still live.
Then, in The Avengers, he takes a hit from Loki and stands up to Thor's hammering of his shield. In the end battle he gets zapped by a Chitauri and lives.
Saying he has no powers isn't accurate.
He has no powers. Does Batman?
For comic books and comic book movies there is always over the top action. Ever see a Bruce Lee movie? Lee can take on 50 trained men with no shield.
As for the first movie, the serum was still fresh in his body.
The most unreal thing Cap has done in the movies was that big fall that he did but he did use some glass skylights to slow him down a bit. Yes I know its unreal but its no worse then Batman or Bruce Lee movies.
I repeat the serum allowed caps body that is phyically possible for a human being.
I think it was in 1980 that a woman beat Jhonny wiesmullers (Tarzan) olymipic record. Yes the Falcon is in great shape for a present day man but Cap is 2 to 4 times stronger faster then him.
Captain America does not have super powers!
He has no powers.
Does Batman?
As for the first movie, the serum was still fresh in his body.
I repeat the serum allowed caps body that is phyically possible for a human being.
This.
For me, Cap absolutely has powers beyond even the most supremely trained soldiers. Especially here, we see him evolved in training beyond Avengers, but he's not at the fighting level (or ruthlessness) of Natasha, and in the end it's simply his physical indomitability that saves him many many times in this film -- against the terrorists on the ship, against Bucky (battle #1), against the Hydra agents/elevator onslaught, and repeatedly, despite free jumps and falls that would have killed an ordinary human being.
No matter how buff or superb a physical specimen a regular person is, no, they would not be able to free-fall from an airplane or from a skyscaper with just a few bruises. Cap is special. And that's okay with me; he earned it.
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Explaine Bruce Lee movies then.
shareHollywood. That happens in all Hollywood movies/TV shows. Guys get clobbered, get up and are fine after clearing their head. People get shot or stabbed or such and the doctor will say, "It didn't hit anything vital.", which means that 5 minutes later, or in the next episode, they are fine to fight again.
Bruce Lee never fell from a high-rise. He never jumped a hundred feet onto solid ground without getting hurt. He never got shot several times and still was able to beat the h'ell out of an enhanced person.
I've given you example after example of instances when he did things no human, no matter how great of shape they are in, could ever do. It is why in Age of Ultron, Thor has no issue with sharing that special alcohol with Cap, and why it doesn't affect him.
there is leeway into what exactly is meant by "peak human."
superhero stories were birthed in a time when our understanding of science was still blooming. thus, much, if not all, of superhero lore is steeped in pseudoscience. we sincerely believed that science would solve all of our problems--this optimism was actually shown on-screen in the MCU. we sincerely thought that radiation might grant super powers. we sincerely thought we would have flying cars by the year 2000, that we would have colonized distant worlds, etc., etc. then we realized that science is a lot of hard work.
the captain america origin story was similarly birthed in a time when our understanding of evolution was skewed. we believed (and still do) that it is somewhat all about us (it isn't), and that human beings have not reached some anthropomorphized version of "peak." we assume "peak" to mean faster, stronger, smarter, etc.., etc. unfortunately, evolution is NOT about us, and doesn't care about what we perceive as stronger, faster, or smarter. it only cares about what is more adaptable--if that means small and squishy, that's what will survive (think cockroaches). thus, captain america lore has his "peak human strength" as being able to lift something like 1000 lb. back when cap was conceived, it was possible to dream something like this was possible, but we're just not built to handle that kind of weight (even powerlifters require support). thus, realistically, whatever the serum made cap, it is significantly more than human. but this is also why realism will never ever be the right metric by which to measure comic books.
I don't read comics but he clearly does have powers in the films.
shareWhat are his "powers"? Can he pick up a car and throw it 100 feet?
How come he had a tough time beating Batrok?
There are dozens of action movies that the star does "impossable" things,,the expendables
die hard, Bond ...the list is endless.
If he does have powers they are pretty weak... 2 times better then a trained attlete?
Everything Cap had done can be explained as non powered in the context of action or comic book movies.
What are his "powers"?
If he does have powers they are pretty weak... 2 times better then a trained attlete?
Everything Cap had done can be explained as non powered in the context of action or comic book movies.
@OP- I don't know why this is so difficult for some people to figure out. Yes, the MCU is super powered. The MCU Cap is much more like the Ultimate-verse Cap, who is super powered, as opposed to the "prime" Marvel Universe Captain America, who is only perk level human. Also in the films Cap is shown clearly using strength and abilities that can only be described as super human. So yes, MCU Cap is super powered.
Nuff' said.
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I guess Hawkeye is too?
share- Went toes to toes with Spider-man (CW)
- Threw a motorcycle in middle air (AoU)
- Stopped a helicopter from taking-off (CW)
- Stronger than DeathLok (AoS)
Yea seems like he has super power to me. No human in this planet could do what he did.
OP is either a troll, or is convinced he is right because he is convinced he is right because he thinks he's right and therefore he's right and no one can tell him he's not right because he's convinced he's right and therefore he's right.
shareHe defeated spidey oh and he also kicked a truck, beat the *beep* out of tony...etc
share"According to Marvel canon the super solder formula wore off years ago"
No it didn't. His body produces it. An "expert" would know this.
"and its Caps intence training that has kept his body in peak shape. "
He works out to keep in top fighting form. You know, practice.
I am refering Marvel canon from the 60's and 70's
The crazy crap at Marvel now is beyond me.
If it's beyond you, why are you adamant that you are right. He's given you a dozen FACTS - as in things you can actually see in the movies - that no peak human should be able to do.
And it's arguable that while there are people who might be able to "get close" to what Cap can do, NO ONE can do what he does in every single aspect:
- speed
- strength
- agility
Combining these feats in a single person is physically impossible. The strongest person will be so heavily muscled as to not be able to move as quick as a good acrobat. The fastest runner cannot be weighed down by a muscled 240lb frame.
Its a action movie..most action movies the stars do pretty inhuman stuff....
Steven Sagel
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Jackie Chan
Chuck Norris
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Bruce Lee
I can go on and on ..none of these movies did the stars have super powers.
Inhuman stuff? Yes. They are exaggerated - in one or two aspects.
Think about it, if they were playing HUMANS (and not sci-fi or fantasy-type characters with different rules) - would the audience believe Steven Seagal could keep pace with a car going 30mph?
Would they believe Bruce Lee could lift and throw a Harley? Would they believe Van Damme could hold down a goddamn helicopter?
No. That's simply out of the realm of believability because they are supposed to be human, unless the movie specifically highlighted their monstrous speed/strength/agility. Even then, it would be an incredible stretch to say any of the "humans" can do ALL three.
Even seeing a person cut in half a tiny frickin' BB pellet going more than 215mph sounds superhuman, but Isao Machii (real guy) can do it. I doubt most of us can do it consistently if the pellet was placed stationary on a table.
Does that make him superhuman? No he just has A SPECIFIC peak-human skill level. He probably wouldn't last a minute in the ring with a good kickboxer, or outrun a seasoned sprinter.
Ask Bruce Lee's character to do it and sure, people might believe it. Ask Arnold Schwarzenneger's character? No, just no. And vice versa for powerlifting. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
You can go on and on, and you do, and you still aren't right.
As I replied to your stupidity about these guys previously - Hollywood. That happens in all Hollywood movies/TV shows. Guys get clobbered, get up and are fine after clearing their head. People get shot or stabbed or such and the doctor will say, "It didn't hit anything vital.", which means that 5 minutes later, or in the next episode, they are fine to fight again.
Bruce Lee never fell from a high-rise. He never jumped a hundred feet onto solid ground without getting hurt. He never got shot several times and still was able to beat the h'ell out of an enhanced person.
I've given you example after example of instances when he did things no human, no matter how great of shape they are in, could ever do. It is why in Age of Ultron, Thor has no issue with sharing that special alcohol with Cap, and why it doesn't affect him.
OP is either a troll, or is convinced he is right because he is convinced he is right because he thinks he's right and therefore he's right and no one can tell him he's not right because he's convinced he's right and therefore he's right.
shareSpeaking for the films, he has more than Tony Stark.
shareWhat's canon in the comics does not always pass over to the movies. The movies have shown Cap to be beyond peak human conditioning, in what he can survive and who he can survive against. If the serum was out of his body, no matter how hard he worked everyday, he wouldn't be in any condition to go against the likes of Thor, Ultron or Ironman and hold his own. Or survive multiple chest and gut shots and still fight an opponent, or fall numerous floors and walk away, or get blown off a bridge and into a bus and walk away. These things are being the range of even a peak human; especially for one without the serum.
shareFace palm the op is a god damn idiot comparing Bruce lee a real life person to a fictional character captain America. I just had to stop reading, right there.
shareI agree. Sometimes I think some people like to argue for argument's sake.
shareI think the OP just wanted some attention. Cap is superhuman in the Ultimates comics. Plus no "Peak" human can run faster than cars, like Cap did in Civil War. Those cars weren't in bumper to bumper traffic either.
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Ok l'm wrong. But what are his powers? Is he 2 or 5 times as strong and fast as a "normal" man?
I have noticed that whenever he does someting "super human" he is always shown straing with all his might.
Didn't even read the whole thread, as it's patently obvious to me, that you are just trolling. You're very good at it though
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