Reposted: This was a great series. Great acting and character development and amazing storyline even though I had little interest in computer technology (I hated coding and computer sci in school). I don't understand why this show was largely rejected by the media and public leading to cancellation yet a show with a similar theme (Mr Robot) is thriving, receiving accolades and great media attention. I found Mr Robot unwatchable and disturbing on many levels, only got through a few episodes. Any opinions on why that is?
Actually, one of the critics at the Hollywood Reporter liked the show. It made his top *network* shows when he created his year end lists several times. But, it's network tv. And even worse, it was on CBS, the home of the cookie cutter, looks just like all the others, no diversity in sight, procedural shows. It was a hard sell to convince people this was anything else.
It became even harder after Carter was killed off. I still can see the rationale behind the move from a story point of view, but it was also a blow to the little diversity the show *did* have.
And lastly, while it aired on CBS, it wasn't owned by CBS. That makes a huge difference in profits after the show ends. Sold into sydication and to Netflix, it made money for Warners, and probably Bad Robot, but very little trickle down for CBS. Unless they could sell big bucks worth of advertisement, they were probably barely breaking even while it aired.
Mr. Robot *is* difficult to watch for many reasons. But one thing it does....there was an article in the *business* section of my local paper talking about the verisimilitude of the show. When the viewers see a screen shot, the coding is correct. They have a hacker on staff to make sure things are accurate. They had to dump a story idea because they couldn't figure out how to portray it accurately. That makes a certain, hardcore audience very happy. It's all lost on me; but I can understand how programmers and coders would appreciate the effort.
PoI had a different feel completely. There was a discussion about certain types of science fiction, and that was really interesting. I like the type of science fiction that looks at possible societal outcomes, though I admit I'm sick to death of dystopian futures. This was a combination of humanity and technology shaping our future, and I enjoyed it. I can't speak for others.
Actually, one of the critics at the Hollywood Reporter liked the show. It made his top *network* shows when he created his year end lists several times. But, it's network tv. And even worse, it was on CBS, the home of the cookie cutter, looks just like all the others, no diversity in sight, procedural shows. It was a hard sell to convince people this was anything else.
Is CBS really the worst of the worst. I'm not american and I don't watch it but I recently realized that they have made some of my favorite shows "The Twilight Zone", "Northern Expousure" and now "POI". reply share
Ratings wise CBS is the best network. In 2000 when "CSI" first came on the air it was the #3 network, now it's #1. Just like when any other network cancels your favorite show they'll call it the worse network because of it. CBS found a formula that, for many years has worked and brought in the viewers. Sooner or later with the cyclical nature of television another network will find a formula that works and take over the #1 spot. That's the way it works.
You mean like when HBO gave us The Sopranos in 2000 and it was really unique look at family life and now every "prestigious cable drama" has to have a rich or at least well of, mid-life crisis-stricken, white dude, who whines about the fact that his wife is pissed at his adultery and his mistress wants to leave. (Nip Tuck, Mad Men, True Detective, what am I forgetting?) That is the cliche I'm really sick of.
I think all the networks are afraid to take risks; I think CBS is the most enamored with its template. CBS is definitely of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. That means, as another poster said, they do a lot of things that look alike. But other channels are following suit with franchises and similar shows.
It is the reason many viewers just skip network tv altogether.
But you are correct that those shows you mentioned were very good. They were a while ago. PoI's was a good show that failed to find an audience that may have really enjoyed it had it been on cable.
In all fairness, media attention doesn't equal good ratings. I was surprised to find out that "Girls" and "Hannibal" don't have many viewers. I couldn't open a TV mag to see what's on that night wihout running into an article on how these shows are so amazing and ground-breaking. The info that Hannibal is being cancelled due to low ratings appeared on a telescreen in the subway along with the news on terrorist attacks and earthquakes. Paradox much?
With the first three seasons, I'm glad they didn't get much attention. I could get into the show without any expectations. Grow to enjoy it. I constantly expected it to get too cheesy, to cliched but I just enjoyed it more and more.
When a movie becomes popular you have to hear about for a few months max. When a show becomes popular, it's everywhere for years and years. Breaking Bad ended a long time ago and it's still everywhere. Every show: comedy, sci-fi, superhero is compared to Breaking Bad. Why? Why would anyone compare Agents of SHIELD to BB? It's like comparing Avengers to Citizen Kane. Mad Men is a good show but apart from the great "Suitcase" episode, I cannot enjoy it. I just think "Is this a groundbreaking scene?" "Is this what makes the show the golden standart of modern TV?" (a problem I didn't have with "Lost" and "Breaking Bad" So maybe MM just isn't for me)
It's only when season 3 ended, I practically shouted to myself "This is the best show ever!" I was sure that this final will get some media attention. It came out a around the same time we got "Her" which was getting a tone of praise. I love "Her", one of my favorite movies of the decade. I still think the Machine is more interesting than Samantha.
Hannibal deserved the praise as it was awesome, but it was just way too niche for NBC, and in my opinion, had no business being on NBC. I loved it though. POI was reviewed by IGN and AVClub, 2 of the bigger review sites, and both show were acclaimed. The reviews were always positive. The viewership was there as it was still doing decent numbers with little advertisements. I agree with reader, that CBS is the reason it never garnered awards. I like Mr Robot a lot actually, as it is a challenging interesting show. But I enjoy POI more because it is simply a much more entertaining show. I thought POI was a lot like Hannibal, where it didn't belong on CBS. I think cable would have been a great spot for this show. CbS has the worst lineup ever. POI was the "one of those things is not like the other" type of show, and the only thing on that crappy network besides march madness that I watched.