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i miss the old disney channel


after miley cyrus,jonas brothers, high school musical cast, and DEMI lovato left and selena gomez is about to leave too the channel is going get be at their downfall they are the reason only i was watching disney channel now that their all the gone its boring now i dont like any of the new disney channel stars they are not intresting

two shots of whatever its like tug of war try to pull myself together <3 lil wayne

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Lol at thinking "miley cyrus,jonas brothers, high school musical cast,and DEMI lovato" were part of the good era of Disney. If anything, they were the downfall. Disney now needs to creep out of the black hole of garbage shows it created since the beginning of Hannah Montana.

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THANK YOU, smdh at the OP

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I stumbled on this tonight. This is a general comment on the, um, "discussion" below; I'm posting it here as a comment under LeviHatesAnnie's (initial) comment because I want it to appear near the top of the first page where it won't get lost. (I briefly posted it as a comment under IronMaiden's first comment, but it still landed too far down the page; I hope this works better.)

Wow! The message list says (a I write this) 70 posts in this thread. I counted another 50 that were deleted, 47 of those by an administrator! A lot of passion and nastiness and name calling for a discussion of a children's channel aimed at tweeners. People dug in on their positions who wouldn't budge.

Reading this was like Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign speeches and the reaction to every time he opens his mouth!

Most of the posts are 2 to 3½ years old. I hope everyone's calmed down by now.

Yeah, I know filankey is not a word, but it's gonna catch on.

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Lol at thinking "miley cyrus,jonas brothers, high school musical cast,and DEMI lovato" were part of the good era of Disney. If anything, they were the downfall. Disney now needs to creep out of the black hole of garbage shows it created since the beginning of Hannah Montana.

There's no need to be condescending towards the op. People have different tastes and appeals. I'm sure there were people who considered the Disney Channel era of the early 2000's to the be trashy. It depends on the age group.

Frankly, there's no denial that the Disney Channel era of late 2000 were bad. But I still enjoyed some of the shows for what it was. I never was fond of the dull "High School Musical", but I thought the second film was superior. "Camp Rock" was actually not that bad either. "Hannah Montana" was a mixed bag, but it still thought it was trashy fun at it's best. Jonas Brothers made cute and catchy songs, but weren't particularly a charismatic band. They were guilty pleasure of mines, but easily forgotten afterwards.

The problem with them is their overall overexposure of the products. "Hannah Montana" was overexposed to every degree and it became quite tirering. The fact that Disney couldn't wait to make the movie after the ending of the show, shows how corporate they were (which is evident of the ridiculous, cringe-worthy ending of the movie). The fourth season really ends the same way the movie ended.
"High School Musical" was also overexposed, along with Jonas Brothers. While "Wizards of Waverly Place" was seen as the decent show and had some good ratings, every Disney starlet were launched to the public with a bang. Demi Lovato is the worst example, despite that she's a talented singer. (I'm surprised the hype surrounding Bridgit Mendler were subdued).
The newer shows are practically worse, but it seems as they don't get as overexposured as the "Hannah"/"High School Musical" era. Or perhaps it's just me.

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Does anyone remember a show called Naturally Sadie, and So Stupid (I think that was the title)?

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Does anyone remember a show called Naturally Sadie, and So Weird (I think that was the title)?

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Does anyone remember a show called Naturally Sadie, and So Weird (I think that was the title)?

I think Disney's downfall was around 2005/2006 when Suite Life and Hannah Montana came on.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Wow, smartass. It was a glitch.
And okay, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I still think they took a downward turn around 2005.

I've never fooled anyone. I've let people fool themselves.

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You know how you write something on a message board and it takes forever to load so you keep pressing "send" or "enter" and you end up inadvertently making multiple posts of the same thing? That's what happened. I'm done talking to you. Good day.

I've never fooled anyone. I've let people fool themselves.

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Personally I miss the old shows like baby sitters club (my 6 year old watches it on YouTube and loves it) flash forward, ready or not, sister sister, smart guy, and brotherly love

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Love and miss Even Stevens, Lizzie McGuire, and Sister Sister. All these new shows are God awful.

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Agreed. I have never heard of this show until now. Pathetic.

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lol at ur post, op. no offense.

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They were good? Sir, there's only Three reasons to why a person can say that:

1: They're lying.

2: They lost a bet.

3: They're just stupid.

Now, which of them applies to you? These shows is best described as errors in the history of television.

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My, my, I just had to write bunch of Words and I get wrongfully accused of something by an inbred woodchuck.

You know why I really hate these shows? Because they aren't néw at all! They follow the exact same concept that was created in Disney shows when I grew up, all they do is change a few characters and BOOM: we've got a new show that'll run for a few seasons Before they replace it with Another show of the same, overused concept.

It's not at all because they're new, I'd welcome anything new if it'd be of quality. For instance, I like to Watch Good luck Charlie and Gravity Falls. These are better than many shows I watched on the channel while growing up.

But Austin & Ally, A.N.T Farm, Shake it Up, Jessie etc. is pure crap. Unoriginal, unneeded, non creative, unneccessary and concept-overusing garbage filled with canned laughter and stolen jokes.

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Actually those formulas were around well before you were growing up. If you hate those shows you ought to hate your childhood favorites as well.

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Oh yeah? So the concept of a show about a teenage girl (or sometimes guy) who Dreams about becomming a famous singer (or sometimes dancer/actor) and performs a song in every episode, hangs out with a bunch of "lovable" goofballs, is never or rarely bothered by parents and looks like a model was around in my childhood? Hannah Montana pretty much started the whole thing, and, by the way, when I grew up they actually had cartoons on the channel. Not only half-decent sitcoms that exist for the sake of making Money.

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Ironically, GLC is probably the most unoriginal show on the network.

"Weird is just a side effect of being awesome."

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Yes, I admit that its family styled concept is pretty unoriginal in terms of sitcoms, but when it comes to Disney, it's pretty much unique. Atleast it can focus on more things than making forgettable songs in every episode.

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There is nothing wrong with a show's concept being done before.
Yeah sure, screw originality! Why bother come up with anything new at all when you can steal from previous shows over and over?


When I grew up, the channels focus wasn't entirely on sitcoms and half-cecent Music. They had cartoons back then, instead of just airing some random cartoon every third year like now.

As for the "throw in their own flavor", they don't. They make up a bunch of teenage characters, give them hipster names, hire some good looking actors who cannot sing or act at all, steal some jokes you've Heard 500 times Before, steal some plots you've seen 1000 times Before, and then then let it run for a few seasons until they feel that it's made enough Money, and cancel it to make Place for something similar, forgetting the show forever.

As for that last sentence; yes, they are. Oh god how much they are.

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Love the ignorance. Coming up with something 100% original is something everyone should know damn well is not going to be the case with a lot of shows and movies
Yeah sure, you're basically saying that people can't be original anymore. They can, but you choose to spend your time watching Disney shows and Movies instead of REAL shows and Movies. The creators aren't even trying anymore. The ads basically read: "Brand new Disney show! Filled of fun, friends and MUSIC! Get ready for something completely new and not at all an extremely overused and cheap concept! Weeeh!"

"and the shows that do recycle concepts manage to have their differences in them. They do so throw in their own flavor" By that, you mean changing the names of the characters and settings of the show? WOW! How incredibly thoughtful of them!

"but being the lousy post-2010 Disney hating bitch you are, you fail to see that or is just in denial. Your call." Wow, even the channels fans use overused dialog. Well, well, I've clearly stated that I'm fond of Good luck Charlie! and Gravity Falls, so let's skip the whole "you don't like them because they're new" *beep* I dislike them because they're unoriginal, uninspired, unimaginative and, most important, made for the cause of making bucks on Music.

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"I'm not saying that. I'm saying you can't expect concepts to not be recycled and even when are recycled be stupid enough to think there is no originally still in that particular show." -Why can't I expect that? Disney is doing it live everyday. As original as a screwdriver.

"That's like me calling Sabrina the Teenage Witch a ripoff of Bewitched, or Wizards of Waverly a Place a ripoff of Bewitched since it deals with people with magic and spells." -Oh that's not all true...Wizards rip off alot of other shows aswell.

"But they're not because they have loads of differences beyond the main concept that makes the shows not a ripoff of one another. The makers of shows are always determined to be original with their work beyond a same concept idea." -Not sure if you mean makers of actual shows or makers of Disney shows. Assuming you meant the latter one; no, they're obviously not. Take Dog with a Blog for example. The making of that probably was something in this style: "Boss: Hey, employees, we've only released two shows this month, and I Think we could need some more Money. Employee: I've got an idea. What if we take Good luck Charlie, change the names of the characters and replace the baby...with a DOG! Boss: Wow!
Employee: And that's not all! The dog can TALK! And he has a blog! Boss: How did you came up with that?? Employee: Thought it'd be funny, cause, you know, dog and blog rhymes. Boss: Dog with a blog! That'll be the title! Now, I'll go on lunch, when I come back in 40 minutes, I want the show to be developed and ready to air. Employee: Wow, that's twice the time I got on my last show!" Perhaps a bit too generous but I'm a bit of a sweetheart.

"One show just doesn't heavily borrow a whole bunch of things from another and I certainly haven't seen that done on Disney. Each show had it's own flavor elements in them. Get it straight. " -Yeah, you're right! In Austin & Ally, they're actually OLDER than they are in A.N.T Farm! How could I miss that HUGE difference??

"They do a lot more than that honey. The episodes aren't remakes of episodes from another show. Sure, they may be similar, but not too similar to where they're complete remakes. That shows you original stuff is in it and that's always been the case so realize that." -No they don't, my inept friend! The episodes are filled with overused jokes and corny dialog that a 7 year old could come up with, just like every other Disney sitcom.

"And as people that also replied to you have stated, Good Luck Charlie and Gravity Falls are shows that are no different from the plenty of shows before them that have existed." -No they didn't. One guy said that GLC is probably the most unoriginal show on the channel, to which I agreed. It is very unoriginal, which takes away alot from watching it. I'm mainly just fond of it because it isn't all about forgettable, made-for-bucks Music. As for Gravity Falls, that's the most original show Disney has had in years.

"They have recycled concepts. But they have original flavor in them, like a lot of shows with recycled concepts have which includes the ones you're hating very unfairly. As it has come to my attention you exaggerating on things completely and twist things to suit your need to bash the hell out of them" -Pretty much nothing on Disney is neither original nor have a unique flavor. You can go on and nag about that if you want, but anyone who can like Disney in its present is obviously not suited to have opinions on the matter.

"How selfish of you. You need help." -How original and creative of you. You need taste.

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"And? TONS and TONS of shows have been made for decades on several other networks. Things are likely to be recycled at this point in time and it's not a bad thing at all. Get with it." -Perhaps it's not bad in your Eyes, but animal opinions doesn't really matter for most people. Of course things can get recycled. That is, if they atleast try have some sort of originality and actually follows Another tone of humor. But the thing is, Everything on Disney seems to be against that.

"Also, learn how to actually quote a post like mine because your comments look like a mess with words all jumbled together." -If you didn't have the memory (and mental capacity) of a goldfish, you'd perhaps note that I've used the quoting properly earlier. My IMDb has been rather messed up lately, and for some reason, I can only quote once a post, Before it screws up. For that reason, I've quit using the quote Icon until later.

"I don't find it a ripoff of any show." -That's cute. As if you'd even know what "ripoff" means.

"Okay your wording is so off here when you said "makers of actual shows or makers of Disney shows". Are you trying to suggest Disney shows aren't actual shows or something?" -Bingo!

"Any show airing on a network is an actual show so you should have said "makers of shows on OTHER NETWORKS"." You obviously are unfamiliar with insults.

"But to answer your question, I was referring to Disney channel shows, but shows on other networks can apply to. Your example was stupid. Are you trying to say Dog with a Blog is a rip-off of Good Luck Charlie? Are you kidding me? Now I know you're dumb. The shows are different from each other anyone with a brain can assume that GLC had no inspiration for DWAP's creation." -It can't be anyone with a brain then, seeing as you apparently knows it.

"There are several differences between both shows stupid. Are you trying to say Austin & Ally ripped off A.N.T. Farm?" -No, they, as all other Disney shows, are all ripoffs from whatever show started this whole "teenagers performing forgettable songs" concept. I'm guessing Hannah Montana.

"Oh my goodness you are just getting stupider and stupider with this show." -Use real Words. And stop referring to this as a show.

"Please, just stop with this nonsense already you're embarrassing yourself." -Oh yeah? Some inept, premature Disney fan with Spelling issues Believe I'm embarrassing myself? It MUST be true then!

"Please, find me a seven year old that can come up with this stuff. You can't, so shut up." -I suppose I could use you, but I'm not sure if you're that old yet.

"Also, there's nothing wrong with jokes being reused, just as long as they recycles have something creative in them to make them fresh and shouldn't be a problem that's been recycled as that's bound to happen and it isn't a complete carbon copy." -Please, add some logic and decent grammar to this sentence, and I'm ready to answer.

"But sadly we have idiots out there like you that want to have a problem with this and take it way out of proportion than it needs to be. " -Just as we have some tasteless hacks of Disney fans that just can't accept that not everyting about their precious lil' shows is good just because they somehow can laugh at overused jokes and corny humor. Which of them do you Think people are most tired off, huh?

"Okay, they neither of them mentioned Gravity Falls which is my mistake, but that show is not 100% original." -Haven't stated that either, my good man.

"Take in to account of all the other animated shows made before it especially ones outside of Disney channel." -Oh, thats funny, you say "especially" outside Disney, as if you know that all other networks are more original. Keep going, my Child!

"As for GLC, get over it. Lots of shows deal with family life. That is a concept that is bound to be recycled and shouldn't even be a problem." -Yes, how could I be so stupid to Think that I can dislike unoriginality? Oh, how could I be that stupid, to Think I even had an opinion at all. I'm sorry, Mr. Führer, please don't gas me, for I'm merely a human being who'd like some originality.

"No bitch, you're not suited to have an opinion in the matter with the type of mind you have. I mean my God, you are just a dumb, ignorant, freak with no understanding of things." -What a comprehensive and seemingly delicately planned sentence. Not at all laughable stupid and completely lacking off any real arguments.

"Oh my goodness you are just amazing, and I mean that sarcastically. You need a better mind." -Ah, so you meant it sarcastically when you called a guy you're fighting with Amazing? Thank you for explaining that, for I was extremely confused at first. Heheh...boy. I need a better mind? I just...h-how am I supposed to reply to that? Do I just, like, write a bunch of letters too and post them without looking? Or what? Help me, please, I'd like to experience your level of stupidity.

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"Oh so I'm an animal? How original for you to say that, and here you were bitching at me for calling you selfish and needed help." -Just look at the context, the theory of you being an animal is actually more likely than me being selfish.

"Anyway, Disney does throw in sort of originality and actually follows another tone of humor you dumbass. You're too damn stupid to see that since you want to have a damn reason to hate the shows that shouldn't be a problem to you." -My, my, whence this sudden hostility? Please, sir, try act civil. Throwing the Word "damn" in every sentence won't make you look any better. It's easy for you to just state that Disney does. But when it comes to evidence? Not so much. All you can name is differences in character looks and other minor details.

"Also, I don't think you understood my statement in my comment before the last one at the top where I said you can't expect things to not be recycled, to which you responded: "Why can't I expect that? Disney is doing it live everyday. As original as a screwdriver." -That was a reply to the latter part, you lil' dumbo. :)

"I'm not saying don't expect things to be recycled in a new show, duh, I'm saying don't expect a show to just have 100% originality in it and just think it's a bad thing if it doesn't. No show for the past several decades have been 100% original and have re-used concepts but always used them in new situations." -You IQ-free, intelligence-opposing, braindead freaking clodpoll, I GET what you're trying to "tell" me, I just don't agree with your ridicuoulos opinion at all. And that's fine. You, as everyone, are entitled to your opinion. No matter how laughably stupid it is.

"If you didn't have the freaking mind of a decapitated horse, then you'll see that I FREAKING KNOW YOU USED IT PROPERLY" -I'm going to skip commenting on your overuse of corny insults and ask; how exactly was I supposed to see that you "know" that? I mean, really, you didn't show it at all.

"but you need to keep doing it like that because the way you've been having your previous comments displayed has been rather rough and need to be structured better. Okay? Go back to using the things." -What things? You mean the quote function that I've pointed out isn't working? Oh, yeah, genius!

"That's cute, you don't seem to have been paying attention to the shows to see how so much different than they are past the main concepts. Sorry, but taking a same concept of one show, does not make it a ripoff. Learn it you toothless punk. You don't seem to know what the word mean." -So completely copying the concept, technics and basis from something else isn't to ripoff? Alright then.

"Well they are actual shows and nothing you say will change that. I'll just shut up now if I were you. Do you know what something means to be official? I don't think you do. Unless these are fan made shows and not airing on a network, then you have no reason to call them otherwise no matter how much of a ripoff they appear to be. In actuality, the Disney shows now certainly aren't the ripoffs you're stupidly accusing them of being here" -You're quite fond of taking insults literally, huh?

"And yes, I am familiar with insults so go brush your teeth with the nasty mouth you have. I didn't come across you insulting the shows, it seems you just make a foolish error here which people like you should be bound making.
" -Pfffft aha, ahahahaha oh, hahahahha w-what? I should go brush..haha, my teeth? Hahahaha ahahaha, w-with, with "the nasty mouth I have"? Hahaha, s-sir, I haven't laughed liked this for a long time, seriously! Haha, oh god...you really are terrible at comebacks, aren't you? Haha, it's ok, I'll try make 'em easier to understand from now on. Pffft hahaha.

"No, you don't have a brain to see that the shows have hardly anything similar going on. Do you see the DWAG girl making video diaries? Do you see a family of five in that show? Do they all have blonde hair and two children with brown? Are they all biologically one family? Do they have to deal with a cranky neighbor like Mrs. Dabney? Is the family considered infamous by other people? No, so what the hell are you talking about? Not a damn thing." -All these are minor details and not really good arguments. Yeah, sure, their hair colours are different and their neighbors aren't the same. That's just minor things. They're still family styled sitcoms with a similar kind of humor. Both features the oldest son to be the dumbest and the younger girl to be more responsible. They both have a character that's featured more as a joke and apart from the rest of the family. These are all good qualifies.

"They're not ripoffs. If those shows dealt with country girls with a duo-identity and trying to keep the popular side a secret, live with a dad and brother, the mother is dead, set by a beach, etc. then you can call the shows a ripoff. But that's not the case with Austin & Ally and A.N.T. Farm so shut up. They all just bare the same concept of people wanting to sing, but that's where the major similarities of the shows end. The rest are mostly differences as they characters are different and go through different situations. " -They ARE ripoffs! And if not 100 % so, they're still unoriginal, uninspired and completely unimaginative. You can go on with all your crap about "originality" not being important and that "they have their own kind of flavor", just because it may be hard to be original doesn't mean you should freaking stop trying! Disney is nothing but a huge DUMP now! A terrible, greedy, evilminded, meanspirited giant mess of crap shows that are so incredibly stupid and corny that you wannt to cry when you Watch them! Cancell Jessie, Austin & Ally, A.N.T Farm, Shake it Up, Dog with a blog and everyting like them. They're errors, misstakes, blunders that no sane person could appreciate. Fire all the writers and replace them with people that actually ARE funny, and then, maybe, the World will get rid of meaningless morons like you.

"I am using real words so learn them. There's a lot you don't know, so don't be telling me off like you know something when your head is in the gutter here. And I can refer this as a show if I want to. It's an expression anyway thank you, did you know that? I DIDN'T THINK SO." -Your ignorance is only rivaled by your sheer stupidity. Like, seriously, you couldn't come up with a decent comeback even if your Life depended on it.

"Spelling issues? What spelling issues have I had? You are talking out of your freaking ass here. Keep it up with the damn stupidity sister." -Oh, you want Spelling issues? How about this: "I'll just shut up now if I were you." It should really be: I'D just shut up now if I WAS you. There's plenty of more, just call and I'll show you.

"I'm 19 bitch. Face it, you have nothing. In fact, you are NOTHING." -....pffft, heh...heheh...hehehe hahahahahahaha, ahahahahahaha, I'm sorry, w-what? Hahahahahaha "Face it, you have nothing" hahahahahá, oh god, how corny can one get? Oh, oh, this: "In fact, you are NOTHING", hahahahah, oh lord I seriously burst out into laughter while Reading that. You actually Think that was a good comeback? Like, seriously? Not only are you typing the wrong Word in big letters, but you finish it off with a smiley. As if what you said actually was witty. Sir, of all arguments I've been in, and trust me, I've been in many, no person, and I repeat, no person, has even come Close to being that ridicuously corny. Oh, and you're 19? For the future of Americas sake, I sincerely hope you're non-native.

"It makes sense. Go get your brain educated enough since it's not at the moment and then get back to me. The statement is saying that things are bound to be recycled in shows and shouldn't be a problem just as long as they're not a carbon copy, meaning exactly the same which hasn't been the case with pretty much every show out that recycled a concept or elements. Get it straight." -Atleast this time you could put SOME commas and punctuations, so I'll give it a try. If Everything is reused and recycled, if exactly every joke and concept of something has been done Before, then what's the Point in even trying anymore? Why bother to come up with something new and original when you can go the easy way and steal Everything from already existing material? People like you doesn't deserve to have a TV, nor to be able to Watch any kind of media. People like you should just be put in first best truck and taken to some pig farm.

"It wouldn't be so hard for you to get through "overused" jokes and concepts if you understood that not everything in a show can be 100% original." -That's the thing about Disney. They're not even remotely original. You're nothing but a slave to idiocy and its servants. I.e. the people of Disney.

"I know they haven't stated that idiot. I'M stating that now. Duh." -But why, smartass? No one has tried to state anything different.

"You don't watch every network nor do you know or have watched every show on them. So what is your point here?" -My Point? Boy, are you stupid. I was commenting on YOUR Point. Well, well.

"I haven't either, but I have the common sense to know that a lot of them were 100% original with their concepts and stuff since too many shows have been made over the decades with just about every idea you can think of that's been recycled tones of times to think that everything on those networks have been or are now original. How stupid can you get here?" -No commas, no punctuations...just loosely put together Words of sheer stupidity.

"You're stupid to think that every shows has to be 100% new in everything and that a show with a littlest recycle of something is a ripoff and just bad. You have no argument here. Give it up already." -If you go back and read what I actually say, you may see that I've never stated that, and that you're merely making it up to appear less stupid. Buddy? It didn't work.

"Sweetie, you're talking about yourself here. That's the type of thing you've been presenting this whole discussion. " -WOW, that's original! "You're talking to yourself", how many seconds did it took for you to come up with that? Jeez.

"Please tell me you're joking here. It's been rather clear I don't like your guts so there would be no need for you to actually be confused of me not being serious here if I didn't have it put that I was being sarcastic. But anyway, I don't need to use entirely new words when those ones describe you just fine. They haven't worn out their welcome yet so there is no problem here. Yes, you do need a new mind, and a new life." -Yes, I was joking. Boy, you really are terrible with sarcasm, aren't you?

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"For the record, I'm not replying to all of this junk. I don' t know why you think you're accomplishing something here, but you're not." -With other Words, you don't know how to respond to all I said. That's ok, madame, I'm not forcing you.

"I don't think so. You're way more of an animal than I am." -Stealing jokes now, are we?

"They're not minor details. They're details that obviously puts your argument to shame but you don't want to lose your argument calling these shows ripoffs and would make just about any excuse in the book, even a ridiculous one to keep you from falling here. You're not sneaky here." -They are minor details, you just won't admit it because that'd require you to actually come up with an argument.

"I would have no way of knowing that. The entire statement was connected so you should have made it clear what part you were using that for, fat moron. ;)" -Yeah, I should have made it clear by using sock puppets and write Child novels, that'd perhaps help you to figure out what I'm saying.

"Stop whining and make it work okay? Yes, do that." -I Think you misspelled "winning", but anyway, the chance of my IMDb just suddenly starting to work again is about as big as the chance of you saying something smart. Low to nonexistent.

"It depends on how they're all used. If they're used differently in a whole new situation for the characters then no, it wouldn't be a ripoff." -Well that's the thing, Disney doesn't do that.

"Oh, I take everything literally. I'm not the one to joke with and will tear you down saying crap like that. How dare you. Get some soap and wash that mouth out." -I Believe one should figure out what to say Before randomly typing some loosely put together Words and hoping for the best.

"I'm horrible at comebacks? No, you got me confused with some one else honey. I am great at comebacks, but I don't want my comments deleted by admins here so that people strolling through won't be able to see my reply to you if you were to post before that happened. So I'm toning down a bit and you're lucky because if I wasn't restricted to what I throw at you here, you would be getting much serious insults." -I'm going to translate that: "Yes I'm horrible at comebacks but I won't admit it. I'm unsuccessfully pretending that I'm using bad comebacks on purpose, all while I keep on trying to come up with something good so people can sometime laugh at you instead of my pathetic insults."
Wouldn't it be so much easier to just say that?

"These are like nothing to make a case on. Every show has their minor similarities like these, dumb sibling, dumb character, etc. it's been done all the time so are all of those shows ripoffs of each other? Sit down blondie." -So now they're all minor differences, huh? I guess your logic only apply to your own arguments then.

"They are NOT ripoffs! A few minor similarities is like nothing to lose your damn head over. It's the many differences that matter, that makes these shows separate and different from each other. Look past the very minor similarities and see that." -Yeah, it's like, sooo true, and like, originality, who cares, right? It's like, you know, like, they're good, right? Stop, like, get so damn mad just because, like, you can't appreciate overusement and, like, unoriginality. Right? Hehe, imitation...a nice way of mockery.

"Okay first off, this wouldn't be a SPELLING issue, this would be considered a GRAMMAR issue since you're not giving me words I misspelled here, dumbass." - Well, you used your Spelling to write those Words, now didn't you?

"Second, how I wrote that is actually correct. What you have is not grammatically correct. Just say it out aloud to yourself, it sounds stupid. Seriously? How dumb can you get here. Oh, and there's no plenty more. Don't you even come at me with that crap. You've just shown yourself to be a complete moron here that doesn't know what they're talking about." -No, it wasn't spelled correct. You wrote "were" while referring to yourself, but the correct Word is "was". You wrote "I will" instead of "I would" while talking about what you would do in a certain situation, rather then what you will do in the future. Also, for your last sentence, you wrote "they're", but you were referring to me, so it should really be "you're". Oh, well. :D

"Oh don't worry I will be, but for this country's sake in regards to your trifling ass, I hope absolutely hope that you're dead" -More Spelling issues. You wrote hope twice. Also, what do you mean "I will be"? I asked if you're non-native and you respond with "I will be"...so, you will be non-native? Alright.

"I know how to punctuate my sentences don't stop being an idiotic sack of donkey balls and see that you're the dumb one here." -You just referred to yourself as an idiotic sack of donkey balls by the way you worded your insult. Haha, oh my.

"Now to answer your question, it's all about continuance. As long as TV and networks are in business and still running they need something to dish out. There's been like a million shows and movies made already, so they know entirely new ideas and elements aren't going to come out like that. As long as they can take what has already been done but put in an original flavor within it that it doesn't copy another few shows with the same concept then they're good. Things get recycled all the time and it's not a problem. The aspects of life has some recycles with the years, days, seasons, living things, etc. and it's all going to continue as long as this world exists. It's all about keeping the cycle going and keeping things active. It's not going to stop just because it's already been done." -Everything doesn't have to go on forever, though. You're basically saying that commerciality goes Before quality. I, however, would much rather have a few good shows than a pile of terrible shows. That's why I despise Disney. If they just could take some time from trying to create and promote new "stars" every second and actually take a look at the crap they're producing, then perhaps we could get some good shows. Take Gravity Falls for instance. Did you see Disney trying to promote it to Death? No! Because a cartoon by some unknowns isn't at all as important to them as the next overcommercialized sitcom that'll run for a few seasons and bring in some Money on Products. The show has a much higher rating than all their current shows, just look it up.

"They have been original. You're just too blind to see that. Go get some eye surgery, look at their shows, learn something, and then get back to me." -"They have been original", you say? By that, they aren't anymore. Alright then.

"But you already did, stating how it's so new and never been done before. Go sit down somewhere sleeping beauty." -I stated it's more original than anything on the channel right now. Never once did I said it's 100 % original though. It's just something you pulled out of your ass.

"What the hell is this? You're not saying anything here." -Of course not, I'm typing it.

"OF COURSE YOU'RE COMMENTING ON MY POINT THERE, but your point was stupid." -I wasn't making any Point, so I fail to see how it can be stupid.

"Now, I misread what you had said when you said this: "Oh, thats funny, you say "especially" outside Disney, as if you know that all other networks are more original. Keep going, my Child!" because I thought you were saying that the other networks are so creative with their shows. But you thought I was saying that? No honey, I wasn't saying that at all so your response is STILL stupid. I was saying that there were other shows outside of Disney with the same thing you find so original about Gravity Falls. So whether that show within the Disney realm is the first to have it's elements in it is nothing when shows outside of Disney could have had them making Gravity Falls, not original in it's stuff." -Name one, Einstein.

"Oh there was a comma and punctuation in there" -Yes, one comma in the beginning and one punctuation at the end. Doesn't really even it up.

"But you're the one to talk when here you have "Words" capitalized when it's not even the start of a sentence. Oh, this is something you've done quite a few times now." -I'm not doing that on purpose. IMDb capitalize certain subjectives and adjectives automatically when I write them.

"I wasn't trying to be original there. I didn't think I had to. In fact, I didn't have to say anything entirely new here. Get that through your damn head already because now you're just being seriously pathetic. " -And THAT'S how you take a normal, stupid sentence and dumb it up to extreme levels. Weeeeh! :D

"You've already displayed yourself to be a dumbass so catching any sarcasm from you is quite rare." -Using the Word "quite" all the time won't make you look smarter. Come up with a real comeback, THEN you press the post button.

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"You have got to be one of the most stupidest people on here and some of your replies in your latest reply is just beyond terrible. Now allow me to counter this junk and make you look extremely bad here. It just goes to show you're full of crap and are not this smart person to put off a good argument as you're trying to be here." -You call me stupid, yet you use "most stupidest" as an adjective. Haha, oh irony.

"Oh sure, that's just the response I expected from you. Claim I can't respond to your words. Sorry, but I'm not here to write novel posts. Plus, a lot of what you're trying to refute here is so bad there is no need to drag those out so I'm not going to bother replying to them." -Further excuses.

"No they're not minor details, and you just don't admit that because that would require you to admit you're stupid and don't know what you're talking about. Go figure you dusty bitch." -They are minor details. Such things as hair colours and the personality of neighbors aren't really a main key to the plot or show. Also, "dusty bitch"? Wow...and I thought you were low Before.

"What are you complaining about? You didn't specify you were replying to a specific part of my statement since it was all together, so you can't expect me to have magically figured you were replying to the latter part. You should have been more clearer so own up to your own pathetic mistake here." -Believe it or not, but I actually thought you were smart enough to figure that out based on the context, but apparently not. Also, the correct phrase is either "clearer" or "more clear". Dumbass.

"Bitch, I didn't misspell a thing and the fact that you wrote that shows how dumb you are. I meant what I said. Whining, meaning complaining as you were about the quote feature supposedly not working. If I meant to say "Stop winning and make it work" that wouldn't make any sense. First off, the grammar is incorrect and second, you're not winning anything for me to even use that word." -It was a joke meant to display that I'm superior to you. The fact that you didn't get that shows that it's more than a joke.

"What a dunce, and here you are bragging about my intelligence being low?" -I fail to see how it's considered "bragging" to see someones intelligence as low. I Believe the correct World would be "nagging" or "complaining". Oh well.

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Look in the mirror and then get back to me.
The incredibly corny insult aside, how exactly is a look in the mirror supposed to prove stupidity? Haha, oh your idiocy is golden!

Yes, they do do that. Stop being such a blind ignoramus and see that.
I will see it...if they start do that.

Pot, meet kettle. You really need to stop talking about yourself.
And we're on with the childish originality again. How swell

Why would I have said that when that wouldn't be true? Try again.
The terribleness is strong with this comeback.

I believe I said minor similarities in that statement. Where the hell did you get differences from? Pay attention freak.
It doesn't really change the fact that you have a *beep* up sense of logic, now does it?

Yes, but it's not a spelling error unless the word is misspelled. Using the wrong words doesn't make it a spelling error dumbass. It would be a grammatical error. This is something you should have clearly been taught in school, but it seems like you didn't even make it that far. Shame.
Very well then, it wasn't a Spelling error. But a grammar error isn't really much better, now is it? Nor is sheer stupidity.

Oh my goodness you have reached complete stupidity. First off, the phrase isn't "wasn't spelled correct" since no words are misspelled dumbass. Second, it's correct for me to say "were". Third, I never said "I will" I said "I'll" and the phrase is fine because I'm referring to what I'll do in the future just seconds from saying that.

1. That is just a matter of opinion.
2. No, it is not, you mentally challanged canine. The Word "was" is the correct Word of use when reffering to oneself. "Were", however, isn't.
3. "I will" and "I'll" is the same *beep* Word you inbred village idiot. And no, you're not reffering to what you'll do in the future, you're referring to what you'd do if you were me.

As for the "they're" thing, you really need to get out more. The phrase is fine since I'm phrasing that as though I'm talking to some one else about you. It's a commonly known thing when you're talking to some one, you phrase things in a way which appears as though you're talking about some one else but it's meant to be at them.
It is, you say? I don't really see how that'd help you out as you werent phrasing it in that way while talking to me. Just look: "You've just shown yourself to be a complete moron here that doesn't know what they're talking about". You're speaking directly to me for the entire sentence Before you suddenly change your phrasing at the end. Nice grammar, Mr. SeagullI.Q.

Not a spelling issue dumbass. It's a grammar issue. No words are misspelled here so get that through your damn head. I meant to use hope once and forgot to delete that
Not a Spelling issue then. Just a case of misplaced stupidity.

Also, "I will be" I thought you were saying non-active. I read that too quick, but I do plan on not being active in society in my future punk.
Really?? Horray! Thank you, oh thank you, for freeing society of the burden that is you! Anyway, your brain seems to be ahead of you when it comes to non-activity.

But as for being non-native, that won't happen. I'll be in this country for the rest of my life and it will be a long one and hopefully you die soon, alright?
Wow...seriously? You're actually 19 and non-native? I mean, really? No offence but...I've laughed, at your grammar. I've laughed at the intelligence of your comebacks and insults. I've seriously laughed. Just wow...if you're America's future...than I can only say one thing. Poor country. Thank god I don't live there.

Um, no I didn't jackass. Yes, there is a grammar error in there but that doesn't cause me to sound like I'm talking about myself. How dumb of you to see it that way. But let's start this over again
Oh, but you did! Just look at it. Thanks to the missing "you" and the misplaced "don't", it either looks like you're Calling yourself that, or asking me to not stopping to be that. Either way you fail.

"I know how to punctuate my sentences so you stop being an idiotic sack of donkey balls and see that you're the dumb one here."

There, much better.
How about that, the idiot has to write an insult twice to get it right! Haha, Please, go on with your stupidity. You amuse me.

"Commericiality" isn't a real word
I know, but I wrote COMMERCIALITY. Dope.

but it's not like there can't be any quality put in things that just need to be thrown out there. Makers still do their best to present them in a way that is good and not sloppy and unappealing. Don't be so negative on everything made just to bring a continuance.
They do? Well they aren't really doing a good job.

That was referring to the recent years since 2006. But they still are being original. Nice try there.
So they are original? Then what's the Point in spending numerous posts trying to state that originality doesn't matter?

With the way you're going, you mind as well have said it was 100% original. I can assume you pretty much want to.
So, basically, this whole argument is based on an assumption? Alright then. And the correct phrase is "you might as well".

It's an expression. Don't act stupid here with that.
Why can't I act stupid? You do it all the time.

You were making a point. You were saying that I suggesting to know shows on other networks were original. I wasn't indicating that at all.
That's not a Point, genius, it's a comment.

Sorry, but you're the one who hasn't gotten a clue about things here. It's best you go out and find that out for yourself, and make sure you do a good job at it too.
As I thought. You can't name any.

It was all that was really needed so I don't see your point here. You are just s desperate to talk a load of bull aren't you?
Not really, the sentence is nothing but a big, stinking mess in big need of some proper grammar.

And how is that? That's not the case with me. If your words are being capitalized somehow then un-capitalize them. Can you not do that?
How the hell should I know why? Maybe IMDb doesn't care about you? I don't really mind it so I don't bother to uncapitalize them.

I'm using "quite" because I find it necessary to use, not to look smart. It's only a simple word so I wouldn't reply on that to make me look smart.
I guess you're right, you've never looked smart.

But you've been QUITE the despicable moron here with no sense of understanding a damn thing. You can't even tell the difference between a spelling error and grammar error or are familiar with common phrase expressions. Face it, you're the idiot here not me. So why don't you go out there and get a clue, and then get to me?
I didn't knew that one would require to have a clue in order to be able to communicate with you? Oh well then.


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Gee, I see you made two comment separate comment replies here. One where you continue to use the jacked up structure and one where you finally decide to use the quote feature. Any reason why you had to make two separate comments instead of just making one and with the quote feature? Gee, you're just all over the damn place here.
I didn't use the quote feature, I decided to write the quote function myself. Also, "Gee"? How about that, you've gotten a new Word to overuse.

As usual, you try to make such lengthy replies here to like everything I say. You just don't know when to quit huh? If anyone is going to look stupid here, it's you, and for the past few days you've been doing a good job at that.
As Always, your ignorance is heavily matched by your idiocy. You state that I'm going to look stupid, then you go on and state that I've already looked stupid for the past few Days. Long-term memory isn't your strongest side, now is it?

Yes, you are stupid. As for me using "most stupidest" I wanted to be definitive here. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, stupid.
Alright, Another half-assed excuse that makes no sense.

Fine, see it that way. It's only your own dumbass stupidity sinking into your rotten head here.
And the excuses are piling up.

There's a lot more than just hair colors and neighbors that should be taken into consideration here and overall all the differences make a huge difference. But things such as personality of neighbors IS in fact a main key to the plot and the show as they would be recurring and share a role in s number of episodes. That would be a very noticeable difference between that and another show you find it to be a ripoff from.
You state that there's alot more things that should be taken into consideration, yet you cannot name any of them. Also, you state that something is a main key to the plot, only to state that it's only a recurring feature a few seconds later. Neighbor-personalities are easy to change in order avoid accusations of plagiarism.

You thought I could be smart enough? Oh yeah, pull the other one and don't freaking tell me how to write phrases here stupid as you are that fail to understand things and correct your own mistakes, the many you've managed to present to me as it is. Again, I like to be definitive here so I have a special need to use extra words.
"You are that fail"...huh? I am that fail? Another case of Spelling errors, huh?

That isn't even what I call a joke. It was just weak and I would expect that from some one like you. WEAK.
Yes, exactly, it isn't what YOU would call a joke. Now, I do Believe a functionating brain should be required in order to have a grip on humor. Therefore, what you find funny or not isn't a subject of importance.

Here you go again trying to act all smart. You're not smart freak, so shut up trying to point out my errors here. Unfortunately for you there is no error. I used the right word as you're rubbing it in my face that I'm stupid and you being so smart, which alludes to bragging. Try again punk.
Bragging is the concept of pointing out the superiority of your own abilities. To state (the fact) that someone is stupid isn't included in the concept.

They have. You're very late to the party here you slow-mo.
They have? Oh, well then I do Think they should start show it as well.

What exactly is childish about that statement? It's something created by adults and used by them, stupid.
It is childish, and incredibly so. I recall using the very insult in kindergarten, i.e. where you're heading at soon. And it wasn't used by an adult, it was used by a 4 year old in a 19 year olds body.

I didn't intend for it to be any special. We're you expecting it to be? Sorry, but you weren't going to get your wish. I've been roasting that ass (your ass in a slang expression before you want to come in and talk crap about me should have said "your" instead of "that" like shut up with that nonsense) enough so I didn't need to go all out with this response.
No I got the expression. However, you said: "about me should have said", but it should've been "about how I should have said". Another error on your behalf. You also wrote "we're" instead of "were". You have not "roasted" my ass. You've merely made me laugh and cringe.

Sorry, but I don't think I agree there. That applies more to you than me, Dolly Parton.
And we're on with the immature "you're talking about yourself" jokes again. Also, Dolly Parton? That's your insult? Just...jeez.

I don't care which is better or not. Compared to the errors I've made, yours have been completely worse so I am not ashamed here. But too bad you're too stupid to see your mistakes. If anyone has sheer stupidity, it's YOU.
Again, no evidence. You keep making excuses for how it's "ok" for yo to make tons of mistakes because I apparently have made more, yet you the only mistake you can Point out that I've made is to not uncapitalize big letters, something easily justifiable.

1. How the hell is it an opinion? I didn't misspell a word here so it wouldn't be a spelling error as you claimed it to be for you to say it "wasn't spelled right". Duh.
2. Believe whatever the hell you want. I've been familiar with the phrase "....if I were you" which isn't really incorrect.
3. It's not technically the same word. One is a merge of two words, one isn't. I didn't use the separate words here, so you should have been correct on what I had actually used there. I just had to poke at that. Also, I think it's clear I'm referring to what I would do if I were you, but it's something that I would in fact do in the future. Duh

1. And that is your opinion!
2. More opinions.
3. It IS the same World you braindead *beep* moron. "One is a merge of two Words, one isn't" you say? Well guess what, smartass, it is a merge of the very Words the other one display! And no, it's not something you'd do in the future, unless you're actually planning on taking over my mind for real.

Nice grammar indeed. It's commonly done, the switch up and it works perfectly if you see it through, and you need to see a lot of things through so get with the program you roasted chicken.
Yet Another case of half-assery on your behalf. The grammar was incorrect, face it and go on.

Oh, please die already. If anyone could be worthy of being in society it's me and whatever God is up there looking down at us knows it.
Good one, my fine fellow! Also, you Believe in god, you say? Now, now, even more stupidity from you. Oh, heheheh, Cave man.

Thank God indeed. You're a disgrace to wherever you live in and we don't need your ass over here in America stinking up the place with your sorry ass life. You still want to talk about my grammar and insults being bad here? God you seriously need to look in the goddamn mirror already you deformed incest baby.
Once again, such thing as a look in the mirror does not determine intelligence. But I can see you didn't bother to respond to the first time I said that, presumably out of cowardice.

It definitely appears like I'm telling you to not stop being that, but it certainly wouldn't be the first one unless I said "I need to stop being an idiotic sack of donkey testicles..." so way to be an idiot there.
It could very well be the first one. Just look: "I know how to punctuate my sentences don't stop being an idiotic sack of donkey balls and see that you're the dumb one here." Just put a comma between "sentences" and "don't". But as the second alternative would also require a missing comma, then they're equally believable.

At least I can own up to my mistakes. I can't say much about you, especially when it's going to take you a lifetime to get your life on track.
Ah, further "I can make mistakes because you make more" excuses, they're really starting to get old now. All while failing to back up your statements.

That is my mistake *beep* for adding the "i" in there. But even your word came up with a red line underneath it and no word displaying a seemingly correct wording was listed in the right click mouse listing so I didn't think it was a real word. Luckily, I did look up at word just now and it's real. I'm not surprised you didn't make that up.
So...this whole text is basically you admitting you did a mistake and that I was right? You even state that you're not surprised that I didn't make something up, further complimenting me.

No, you aren't doing a good job at noticing it.
Not my fault, nonexistence is hard to notice.

Because you're bitching about the similarities the shows have and making such a big deal on it and completely ignoring the originality the shows clearly have that doesn't make them ripoffs of the shows that have similar concepts as they do. That's why. You seriously are blind. You think you're the genius here and couldn't understand that....
This whole argument is basically you rainting about opinions. Worse off, it's your opinions.

I can assume anything I want to when it comes to you since I am better than you and have a better mind-set to you, and a being worthy of human existence here. Also, shut up about what I mean to say. You are in no position to talk when a lot of what you've been saying and is still saying is all a load of dog vomit.
Summary: The first half of the text is a bunch of lies, the other half is non-backed up *beep* How swell.

No I don't. You do, and it's getting extremely annoying which is why you need to stop and realize things here.
You're right, you don't act stupid. You clearly are without having to act.

Um of course it's a comment, but you were making a point within that comment with that statement, jackass.
Once again, your opinion. I'd beg to differ.

Don't need to. You're quite able to find that out for yourself. Don't be so dumb to assume things here buster, you are in position to do that since you're stupid after all
The overuse of the Word "quite" in order to appaer smart aside, you still cannot name any shows. If it would be that easy, then why haven't you done it already, huh?

Your whole life is a big, stinking mess in big need to some proper grammar. Do something about that getting done.
No grip on reality at all, sigh. How the hell is a human Life in need of proper grammar? Answer that WITHOUT having your ass pressed into your mouth.

But you're trying to act all smart here and some one who doesn't make mistake and knows how to write sentences. You should care to fix it.
Why? If IMDb see it as certain Words need capitalizing, then who am I to argue? I would be like you trying to argue with me, I would have no success.

Wait, I didn't KNEW? I believe you mean "KNOW" here. To answer your question, yes it helps to have a clue so I don't have to deal with stupid people. You think I want to deal with them? No, I don't.
You, of all people, don't like to deal with stupidity? How ironic.

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Oh don't worry I will be, but for this country's sake in regards to your trifling ass, I hope absolutely hope that you're dead.


That is a vile thing to say to someone. Comments like that should get a person banned from posting on the IMDB boards (or any discussion board they say it on). It's one thing to insult another poster but telling them that you hope they die is going way too far.

FYI to the people who are telling others to shut up, people are not going to shut up just because you tell them too. If you don't want to read their opinions, clicking the ignore button would be more successful.

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i wasn't replying you, so just shut up!!!

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no. the op deserved to be mocked for his/her retarded opinion.

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YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO STAB ME IN THE BACK!!!! SHUT UP YOURSELF!!!

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wow, how mature of you. how about getting a life??

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shut up!!!

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get. a. life. pathetic. creature.

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douche.

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aaaw, you're despicable.

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shut up, douche.

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the former, you idiot.

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of course i'm rude towards retards and my comment was NOT vague at all!!!

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lol. you're a bigger retard than i thought.

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lol! i seriously doubt it.

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Jan 6, 2012? Well somebody's into necromancy here.

In any case I definitely don't miss *that* old disney channel. HM, Sonny with a Chance, those were decent shows but not Disney's best. I do kind of miss the Even Stevens/Lizzie McGuire era but that's most just for nostalgia's sake. Quality-wise Disney's current stock has to be their best ever.

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shut up and go to hell!!!

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the same should be said to you.

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wow, how mature of you. and yes, i was being ironic.

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gee, you don't say.

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shut up.

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are you blind or just retarded?? stop replying me!!

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