Flash drive lol
I guess gangsters can fit on dinky flash drives from best buy haha.
shareWell, it is supposed to be the future, so maybe they have 1TB flash drives. Of course it probably still writes data at about 4MB a second, so it would probably take days to fill it up.
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USB 3.0 has been out for a while, and runs at 640MBps
got $850?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-Predator-1TB-DTHXP30/dp/B00E65QM8O/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431962635&sr=1-2&keywords=usb+flash+drive+1+tb
1TB USB 3.0 flash drive
takes roughly 30 minutes to fill/dump at peak
1TB USB 3.0 flash drive
takes roughly 30 minutes to fill/dump at peak
Is that from personal experience, or just going by the manufacturer's description?
The reason I ask is that I've never gotten anywhere near the advertised write speeds. I have one SD card that claims right on it that it will do 30MB/s, but the fastest I've ever gotten with that card is about 9-10MB/s. Even if you want to argue that my system isn't state of the art, I can get at least 28MB/s when writing to a USB hard drive, so the card definitely isn't living up to its advertised rate.
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I don't know about SD cards, but 28 MB/s is very slow for USB 3.0 flash drives these days. On my system, I regularly copy large files from an SSD to a 128GB Sandisk Extreme Pro at about 200 MB/s.
shareI don't know about SD cards, but 28 MB/s is very slow for USB 3.0 flash drives these days. On my system, I regularly copy large files from an SSD to a 128GB Sandisk Extreme Pro at about 200 MB/s.
I don't get speeds that fast even copying between my two internal hard drives. I just tried and the fastest speed I could get was 54MB/s.
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Rotating disk hard drives, I assume. Solid state makes a huge difference, particularly with SATA 6 Gbps or USB 3.0 (up to 5 Gbps).
shareRotating disk hard drives, I assume. Solid state makes a huge difference, particularly with SATA 6 Gbps or USB 3.0 (up to 5 Gbps).
Yes.
I have to laugh when I read about hard drive transfer speeds in the hundreds of megabytes a second range, because I have never seen a file copy that fast on any system.
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You don't have very good disks, then. 10 Mbytes/s is actually USB 2.0 speeds, so maybe check which ports you're using.
The bottle neck usually isn't the USB drive (unless it's a really cheap one), but either your own disk, your network (if you copy over that) oryour USB ports as stated above, if you use v2 instead of v3. There's more, but the point is we have the tech and with a proper setup you can get close to advertised speeds quite easily.
You don't have very good disks, then. 10 Mbytes/s is actually USB 2.0 speeds, so maybe check which ports you're using.
The bottle neck usually isn't the USB drive (unless it's a really cheap one), but either your own disk, your network (if you copy over that) oryour USB ports as stated above, if you use v2 instead of v3. There's more, but the point is we have the tech and with a proper setup you can get close to advertised speeds quite easily.
According to the specs, my system has USB 2.0 ports. It's an HP DC7700, Convertible Mini-Tower.
When copying to a USB 3.0 hard drive (plugged into this system) I get a transfer speed of about 28MB/s.
Copying files between my two internal SATA drives averages about 50MB/s.
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Your system has USB 2.0 ports, so even if you plug in an USB 3.0 drive it will still work as USB 2.0 because of your ports which has a lower read/write speed.
Upgrade your USB ports and see the change in your read/write speed.
Your system has USB 2.0 ports, so even if you plug in an USB 3.0 drive it will still work as USB 2.0 because of your ports which has a lower read/write speed.
I'm aware of that. The point is that I know my USB ports can handle at least 28MB/s because that's the speed I get when writing to a USB hard drive, yet no flash drive or SD card has ever gone that fast for me.
I have one of these;
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-Supersonic-Boost-PEF8GSBUSB/dp/B007JPVT8G/
Even though the hype says 90MB/s, one of the reviews says he only gets 30MB/s with a USB 3.0 port. If he can get 30MB/s with that drive, and I can get 28MB/s when writing to a USB hard drive, why do I only get 10MB/s with that flash drive? Shouldn't I be getting at least 28MB/s, like with the hard drives?
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look, you obviously don't know too much about computers. That is not an insult, just an observation. There are many factors that come into play and I'm not in the mood to bother with the details. I have copied with 200MB/s with USB3 and over 500MB/s with SSDs. So it is definitely possible, especially in a fictional universe that plays in a future where they can develop sentient AIs.
shareDude, drop 16 bucks on a USB 3.0 controller card and quit complaining about your slow speeds. The USB 2.0 is where your bottleneck is and it very well might be a driver issue as opposed to a hardware issue as to why you aren't even getting the best USB 2.0 speeds with that specific flash drive.
shareDude, drop 16 bucks on a USB 3.0 controller card and quit complaining about your slow speeds.
Small problem with that idea; All the USB 3.0 cards seem to be PCI-e and the geniuses who designed the motherboard decided to put the PCI-e x16 and PCI-e x1 slots right next to each other. Naturally the heatsink and fan on the graphics card completely blocks the PCI-e x1 slot.
I know you can get ribbon cable extenders, but the customer reviews say that they all have a small PCB on the end which sticks up enough that you can't get the video card back in with the extender in place.
I did see one plain PCI card, but the price was $50-70 depending on where you look.
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NNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRD!
It's Chinatown
I'd say more of a geek, really. ;)
On a torpedo to Hell.
AND btw., USB 3.0 isn't even a standard - since variants and others, like 3.1, are coming out... It's a war and you guys seem to be a bit behind. ;DP
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USB 2.0 don't just give a lower speed overall, it will vary on the speeds on devices since it's bottlenecking in every manner.
So yes, you might not get 28MB/s on an SD card because YOU'RE BOTTLENECKING IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, but plug it in an 3.X port and it will get massive speeds.
Sorry if this is told a bit "too simple", but you seem like a !"#%! retard.
USB 2.0 don't just give a lower speed overall, it will vary on the speeds on devices since it's bottlenecking in every manner.
So yes, you might not get 28MB/s on an SD card because YOU'RE BOTTLENECKING IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, but plug it in an 3.X port and it will get massive speeds.
So explain to me what factors bottleneck SD cards/Flash drives, which are capable of "massive speeds" when plugged into a USB 3.0 port, but which don't affect USB hard drives plugged into those same USB 2.0 ports.
Please use simple terms since I'm a "retard".
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Well i got USB 3.0 That writes at 90MB/s, so its definitely possible that its going to be even faster in "future".
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Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.
USB 3.0 has been out for a while
USB 3.1 is out now and doubles 3.0 speed from 625 MBps to 1250 MBps.
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Future with PS4s?
share... and Nissan GTR and BMW Z4 in mint condition.
shareThe movie only takes place in the very near future. It's safe to assume that PS4s will still be around for quite a few years. Based on Moore's law available technology (especially for an engineer/programmer at an advanced robotics corporation) would allow for much higher capacities and much faster write speeds than we have today. 4 years ago 1tb solid state drive was barely a dream. Now it's fairly commonplace. What do you expect to see 4 years from now?
shareIt wasn't a dream, it just wasn't released to the consumer yet. There are many more technologies in early and late development stages at the moment that will seem sci-fi in 5-10 years from now.
shareTrue but that just reinforces my point about technology.
Yes. It's called agreeing with you. Don't know why you'd find that concept strange. 😄
shareLol. Wasn't saying that you didn't agree. Just acknowledging that you rightly pointed out the error in my explanation. I guess using the word "but" as opposed to "and" sounds like a rebuttal. I think I'm just so used to people slinging insults on these boards that I automatically tend to be in a slight defensive mode and my wording subconsciously reflects that.
shareTo think that an entire human consciousness can fit on 1TB is absurd. i can fill up a 1TB drive with movies that i know by heart, which would be like a grain of sand in a dessert compared to all the knowledge, emotions, and memories in my brain...
shareMaybe their compression methods are much more advanced? Most word-type documents can be compressed up to like 5% space size of the original file, at least by pure speculation.
shareyou don't remember the movies by the bytes mate.
shareI don't think it's that ridiculous.
A complete human genome can be fitted, with compression, to ~800mb.
A sperm carries ~37mb of data(I couldn't find info on eggs, but let's assume the egg has a similar quantity of data), so a human is formed from ~80mb of data.
If you go down the path to the end, the dna consists of only four bases A,T,C,G, which are the basic building blocks of all life.
The point is that data can be compressed a ton with right tools(algorithms).
In the movie they are transferring conciousness, not genome, but it's not too far fetched that an above-human robotic intelligence could compress it in to a small space.
haha you guys are funny - in chappie's "RAW" state with no knowledge of language or data yes you could do some mad compression because it would be algorithms and rules/evaluations governing its operation.
however actual consciousness has to contain memories/previous data to govern future data - like the maker and his entire living history has to be transferred to another storage medium
in 1966 arthur c clarke estimated that this would be around 10 terrabtyes when he wrote the book "2001".
He admitted later he underestimated this and when he wrote the book 3001 - he decided on a revised estimate of 1 petabyte.
Look that up.....
this movie is just pure fantasy just like his previous 2 movies - not really science fiction at all.
Arthur C. Clarke isn't superintelligent robot, though.
This movie has a lot of dumb elements, and this is probably one of them too, but it's not huge. The robot put consciousness to a data stick, deal with it. If the movie says he can do it, the audience should be able to stretch their imagination enough to accept that.
The movie has conscious robot, so maybe they also have 1 petabyte usb sticks with super fast transfer speeds. Hardly a point to ruin the movie.
That's not to say the movie is good.
I didn't much like Chappie. It's not bad, but I'm kinda growing tired of Blomkamp's movies, 'cause they're so similar in feel and theme and all have the same problems as the last one.
I agree, this is really not an issue (size of the flash drive).
The issue is if it's even possible to convert consciousness into computer readable data (IMO, there's no reason to think it isn't).
The estimated capacity of the human brain is 2.5 pentabytes (million gigabytes).
That sounds like a lot - and it is, but remember, movies on VCD used to be 0,5 gigabytes, now on bluray they can exceed 50 gigabytes (100x more). With 4k, this will increase even further.
What I'm trying to say is, what used to be a lot, isn't anymore, and what seems like a lot now - won't be for long.
The "power" of the brain isn't in it's storage capacity anyway, it's in it's complex and as of yet not fully understood ability for cognitive functions.
The brain is also constantly purging memories or else we'd go kookoo.
shareIt's not the far future. It's the very near one (2016) as they state at the beginning of the movie.
Nothing is what is seems
Well, it is supposed to be the future, so maybe they have 1TB flash drives.
It takes place in 2017 or before, because in the news at the end of the movie, it says that the economy will inflate or something in 2017. share