So since children are innocent to the world (a.k.a. ignorant) and just do want they see while developing they can get corrupted with out even knowing.
Sure. Children can be easily led astray.
When someone else tries to rectify them the child doesn't understand the concept, so it is difficult. If the child experiences both opposite ends it can become an easier adaptation.
Not really. Quality parenting goes a long way. A kid doesn't need to be addicted to crack in order to learn that it's bad.
This is more or less the story that is played with Chappie.
Kind of, sort of, but not really. . .
This is relating to endless children around the world (not all about crime), so showing it in this different robot style is fine and can be an entertaining method as well.
. . . This film was not designed to teach morals to children. Yes, in many ways Chappie was like a child, and his morality matured as the film progressed. However, kids are shaped into adult humans. Deon wanted Chappie to be humanlike, and Chappie just wanted to please the humans around him. . . for a portion of the film anyway. In the last quarter he learns that being himself is more important. The film deals much more with the impact silly little humans might have on a synthetic organism destined to surpass us all. By the end he has acquired all recorded human knowledge. He achieves singularity. once he resurrects Deon (creator) in his own image, and imbues him with the key to infinite knowledge and immortality, Chappie basically becomes god. He does the same with his mother, as he has indeed learned to love. This ends the film on a positive note. . . perhaps Chappie will be a benevolent god, and save humanity from destroying itself.
However, I have not enjoyed a film from this director yet.
I can dig that. He's a black sheep, and not for everyone. Blomkamp makes films for himself first and foremost, while most audiences are used to being the center of attention.
The acting in this wa hs bad.
Not at all. Everyone had moments ranging from good to absolutely fantastic. Ninja and Yolandi had some rough edges, but pulled it off better than most musical acts turned feature film actors. There was some great emotion going on in this.
I've actors in this film and his other movies do very good jobs in film he has not directed (but also not a great job in movies also not directed by him). But never in his, so I am assuming it's something he instructs theme to do.
Probably mostly opinion, champ.
He never makes them seem like realistic people.
The humans in the film were supposed to be stereotypes/archetypes to a large degree.
This film didn't spend a good enough time on the moral of the story.
Oh, it did though. Just not the "moral" you were looking for apparently. Overall it was about unabashed self expression in the face of adversity and upbringing. We can't just live to satisfy others expectations. If in realizing oneself one must become the black sheep, so be it. As the little motivational cat meme in Deon's cubicle read, "Craft life, don't let life craft you." That was the moral. Very ZEF!
Especially since Chappie kills Jackman at the end.
No. Chappie beat Vincent. Chappie broke his bones. He wanted to kill Vincent, but he didn't. Chappie forgave him, and Vincent was still alive when we last saw him.
It just turns out that I guess if bad parents raise a child, then a foster parents tries to change then, too bad, it won't happen.
That's really narrow, and utterly wrong.
The edited was also done poorly.
This low budget movie's editing was on par with a Hollywood summer blockbuster.
Dev's montage of figuring out how to build a consciousness for a computer at his home might have been a minute.
The movie is called "Chappie", not "Boring guy writes tedious code". Hence the montage. It's understood Deon has invested a large amount of time in this project, only we don't have to suffer through all of it.
And half of it was about Red Bulls.
Yep. It was an odd little action montage with a sweaty guy coding and slamming Red Bull. Equal parts funny and genius.
This suggests it really required not much effort.
Not at all. Quite the opposite in fact. The hard droning music, the sweat, the chugging of energy drinks, the frustration, and the look of utter exhaustion radiating from Deon suggests it really required a crap ton of effort.
With the scene while 'turning off' the robots, and Chappie drops in front of Dev, that should have happen when we actually seem them talking together mid-sentence, not just jump into the scene to watch him fall.
Vincent's bug Shut the Scouts down in series. Chappie was #22.
It more or less obvious not, but since we didn't see it at the moment they might have decided that they all agreed to end Chappie's existence and that could have been a convenient situation.
I don't think I follow your meaning. Who are "they all"? Vincent? He wanted to ruin Deon, and assume his success. That was his primary goal.
The main characters were less characterized than the robot did!
The robot was the main character.
If they ever did seem to has a specific personality, it would quickly change, or fade away.
It was more progressive than you assert.
When Chappie made it back 'home' America seemed to care about Chappie. NO HE DIDN'T!
America just did what Ninja told him to do. Though at that time neither thought Chappie would make it home. Also, their respect for Chappie fell somewhere between a toy and a stray dog. America liked him more, but couldn't say anything to the sociopath who called the shots.
He was with Ninja kicking him out!
He waited in the car, and looked uncomfortable about the situation. He even mentioned, "Hell of a first day of school." Implying Ninja's tough love might be a bit much. . . but he couldn't say more. . . America was a follower not a leader.
Then when Ninja saw that he came back he was just shrugging about twenty times as if his lines were never written for that scene.
He still didn't care about Chappie here. Though he did care about hurting Yolandi. He hurt the only person he felt anything for, and this in turn hurt Ninja. He wasn't a "feelings sort of guy", so he stayed quiet. However, this was the first sign Ninja may be something more than a monster.
Even for the action of the movie when Jackson turns off all of Dev's robocops so he could use his own to save the world, he doesn't even try! Once those robocops drop, a riot started (some how in about ten seconds by hundreds of loonies) and he doesn't bother try to end that. We doesn't even really know what happened with that.
Save the world? Really? Vincent orchestrated the entire thing, knowing the city would start to eat itself alive. The goal was to kill Deon, Chappie, and the gang. Deon would be blamed for the sabotage, and Vincent would look like a hero. He didn't care about the city or the crime. He wanted Deon's success.
Now trying to save lives by putting consciousness into robots, fine that's a part of the story for you to think about.
Yep.
But when I think is, if not another reason I dislike this movie,
One of the many reasons I love this film.
at least one that is very funny, is that the whole consciousness of Yo-Landi fits in a flashdrive that might hold just a few gigabytes.
Yep. Pretty funny. Though the movie never displayed her as an intelligent person, just someone capable of love. . . Also, the film never divulges the capacity of the drive, the amount of memory necessary to store a soul facsimile, nor the possible compression used. In short. . . Science fiction is perfectly acceptable in science fiction.
Which may not even be as much as the film in the DVD,
DVDs are digital. . . there's no film in there.
which wasn't any good.
Says the person who:
-So badly misunderstood everything from the director's intentions, to the very themes of the story he chose to tell. . .
-The person who thought the stereotyped humans were underdeveloped main characters, when they were clearly supporting roles. . .
-The person who believed the movie's manipulative psychopath villain, Vincent, wanted to "save the world".
The moral was acceptable, showing it was horrible.
The moral was exceptional, your understanding was horrible.
Different strokes for different folks, right? I love this little South African fairytale about nature vs. nurture in regard to self expression/identity. I also love that many people dislike it, thus firmly justifying its cult B-movie black sheep charm.
-chunkiefroth (ZEF side complete)
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decker40
9 years ago
I appreciate your peaceful agreements and disagreements and very surprised someone would not only read everything I wrote, but reply as detailed as you did. Kudos to you.
It also seems most of what I wrote was understood, even with my typos, some I will explain another time, yet it is too late now, so this will be a cliff hanger.
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Obnoxiously-Adorable
8 years ago
. . . This film was not designed to teach morals to children. Yes, in many ways Chappie was like a child, and his morality matured as the film progressed. However, kids are shaped into adult humans. Deon wanted Chappie to be humanlike, and Chappie just wanted to please the humans around him. . . for a portion of the film anyway. In the last quarter he learns that being himself is more important. The film deals much more with the impact silly little humans might have on a synthetic organism destined to surpass us all. By the end he has acquired all recorded human knowledge. He achieves singularity. once he resurrects Deon (creator) in his own image, and imbues him with the key to infinite knowledge and immortality, Chappie basically becomes god. He does the same with his mother, as he has indeed learned to love. This ends the film on a positive note. . . perhaps Chappie will be a benevolent god, and save humanity from destroying itself.
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