Am I the only one who thinks she's being unreasonable? Why can't she go to Greece and make Hector's family happy. Rosie may be her friend but they are her family and family should count for more. Didn't she realize she was marrying into a Greek family and some things like going to a funeral are important to them. I know you don't always like or get on with your family but she should do it for Hector's sake and that was both insulting and disrespectful giving her Father-in-Law a cheque. She does point out that it's for more than 'the slap' that she doesn't like Harry but at this stage I think she's being rather selfish and not considering her husbands feelings.
I agree she said that it wasn't just the slap that she wouldn't forgive.
Also, she's an adult and a mother if she thinks Harry is a bad influence on her children and doesn't want him in her life (not to mention her eternally negative mother in law) she has the right to express their opinion. Also, seeing as both Harry and Koula have referred to her as "stuck up Black bitch" and "the black one" she's well within her rights to not want to be held captive in their company. Being family didn't stop her from talking about her as if she was more than a nuisance.
"It's only so far you can spread stupid before the world just goes to hell." -Lafayette Reynolds
Ahhh yes, and Rosie and Gary and adorable, well behaved Hugo are a good influence on her children! NOT! Of course they shouldn't have called her those terrible names, they didn't say it to her face. I wonder what Gary says behind her back, he was already making fun of Bilal and Shamira.
I was going to comment on Gary and his remarks about Shamira and Bilal. Iam sure Gary and Rosie have both made comments about her race and color. I dont really care too much for Aisha. I lost my father in law 2 yrs ago and I would of never treated him or spoke to him the way she does to Hectors father even though there were plenty of dramas when he was alive. Even at the bbq she was bitchy and very disrespectful. Bitch get out of my way!
Sunshine, you have to let it go. For whatever reason the producers (I'm assuming with the author's permission) have changed Aisha's race. Don't know why because it doesn't seem to have any impact on the storyline so far. I'm sure they would have been able to find an actress who could have passed for and acted 'Indian'. In fact S.O. who is British, has done an excellent job of sounding Australian. Actually has there been ANY reference to her race in the show? (not the book). Because I mean she could be playing an Indian, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch, she could pass for one with her looks. After all did Aisha have an Indian accent in the book? I mean she's playing some one who grew up in Australia, so apart from calling her black (and some people would use that to describe an Indian) how does she differ from the book? is there a lot of reference made to her Indian background? Anyway it looks like they've changed other minor details from the book so don't let it concern you too much, just enjoy this excellent series. I haven't read the book so have no idea how it differs from the show.
dontcare, you and I seem to be 2 of the few posters that live in the real world on this board. As I stated in my post,
I know you don't always like or get on with your family but she should do it for Hector's sake
We don't always realize it but when you get married you get the package, unless it's extreme circumstances you have to get on with your spouse's family, even if it's just on the surface. Otherwise they will get hurt in the crossfire and then you start having problems in your own marriage.
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This is another one where we have to agree to disagree! I mainly post on one other board, and it's not the norm to quote big chunks of a a post, but whatever, it would take a lot more than that to offend me! HA HA
P.S. BTW just to satisfy my curiosity, are you in WA or just a night owl like me?
Aisha's race is important because Indian people are under cast as it is, if a character is Asian why get someone Nigerian to do it??? What's that saying to all those who were pleased that someone from there homeland was represented and then in the film they cast someone from a different background????
Also didn't Rosie go out with Aishas brother?? also other references to her race which I felt were disregarded in the film. Also Aisha is not happy and it is not all Hectors fault
Well as I said, they haven't mentioned her race in the show, why do you think she ISN'T Indian? Just her looks? then you've got no basis because I think she could pass for Indian, how exactly do you want her to act Indian? wear a Sari!. I don't remember any reference to her being Nigerian, are you getting that from the actress? That's doesn't make any sense, because, A.L.P.(Harry) has an Italian name, E.D.(Anouk) and D.G.(Sandi) have Anglo Saxon names! and they are playing Greeks and a Serbian(?) Of course they're all Australian, I'm talking about their backgrounds. Anything else (like about her brother) that they haven't included in the show, well that has no point. At the top of my head I can only think of one 'Indian' actress in Australia, Georgina Naidu (from Seachange) but she would have been too old for the role. I'm sure there are others but I'll have to Google it and get back to you.
In terms of casting, you also have to keep in mind that they not only needed to cast Aisha, they needed to cast child actors who could pass as her children.
In the end, her race doesn't make a huge difference to the story - the main thing that needed to be portrayed is that she is not Greek.
Me and Brits are done with story time and we wants to get our recess on
fairpenguin, I did want to point out another thing. While you defend Aisha for not wanting to put up with his family and you say that 'For some people friends are more like family, than the actual family'. By the same logic Hector shouldn't have to put up with her BOGAN friends, after all look at the problems they caused for everyone. Yes I maintain it was their fault because as the lawyer pointed out they weren't supervising their son. In marriage you have to tolerate things you don't like about your spouse and that includes family and friends. You know, out of this whole story the thing I find hardest to believe is the friendship between the three women, Aisha, Rosie and Anouk. I don't doubt them being friends when they were young but now years later when their lives have taken such different directions. Aisha, well educated, professional working wife and mother. Anouk, educated, career woman not married, no kids. Rosie, little education, stay at home mum. I think in real life it's unlikely these three women would have such a long lasting friendship. I said unlikely not impossible!
By the same logic Hector shouldn't have to put up with her BOGAN friends, after all look at the problems they caused for everyone ------------------------------------
U mean Rosie and Gary? Well Rosie and Aisha were at school together and knew each other long before Hector showed up. Also, didnt Harry slap Hugo? So how did they 'cause' anything?
Aisha, well educated, professional working wife and mother. Anouk, educated, career woman not married, no kids. Rosie, little education, stay at home mum. -----------------------------
Lol why is Aisha 'well educated' and Anouk is just 'educated' ? I am sure they both went to university and did very well in their careers....just because one had a medical license she has a one up?
Just on the subject of Aisha being Indian- and the character not being Indian.
If they had cast Rosie, Gary, Connie and Ritchie as black...would that have been ok? After all, they are not Greek.
And the fact you can only think of one Indian actress in Austrailian TV is shocking....Indian actresses are under represented and to say that there wasnt one in Austrailia is appualing, to discount an entire race is very offensive
As I said about Aisha's race, I don't think it's that relevant to the story. Believe it or not I did a Google search for an Indian actress in Australia and nothing came up. Don't forget they need to get someone who can act the part, which S.O. has done very well, not just someone who looks the part. Can you come up with a few possibilities? I'm not trying to be smart, I'm genuinely asking you.
Did you read the next sentence? I said it was their fault because they weren't supervising their son. If they were he wouldn't have acted like a brat and kicked Harry and Harry wouldn't have slapped him. Is that clear enough for you? With Rosie and Aisha being friends since school and you don't think Hector's family has been his family his whole life? so that's even longer than school days. And you think being loyal to your friend is more important than being loyal to your husband? I used the term 'well educated' because isn't Aisha a vet? so I'm assuming she has a Veterinary, (science, medicine?) degree. I don't exactly know what Anouk's qualifications are because I'm not even sure exactly what her job is but I can see she would have a higher education than just high school, I just wasn't positive she has a degree. In my opinion a professional has a one up over 'I'm not sure what'. I haven't read the book, I'm only going by what's in the show, so you may be sure Anouk went to university but I'm not! Have I explained myself to your satisfaction? I think you're nit picking here.
What 'politically correct' term would you prefer that I use? I actually think that the wikipedia meaning describes Rosie and Gary to a T, but whatever. And why did you quote the last part of my post?!?!?. You like using 'cut and paste' a lot, don't you? And when did I say Rosie was uneducated? 'little education' and 'uneducated' are not the same thing. You don't need much education to see the difference, pun intended. Since you insist on quoting my post in it's entirety, at least read and comprehend it.
What has poor taste to do with them working? Yes Gary works when he isn't too hung over and isn't out all night getting drunk. Rosie had to ring his employer to say he wouldn't be in one morning, and probably several mornings to lie that he's sick. Where does Rosie work? you mean in the home? Well she's doing a terrible job, she only has one child and the house isn't big yet she can't keep it tidy. Maybe if she went out to work and earn some money both her and Hugo would be better off all round. Hugo could then go to a preschool and mix with other kids and adapt to the real world and get off her tit! I don't know why you keep referring to the book because those of us that haven't read it don't know any of this back story so we can only go by what they have put in the show. I unreservedly apologize for saying 'cut and paste' when I should have said 'copy and paste'. And
It's a common practice on the IMDB
not on the boards I go on, only a line might be quoted but not the whole text! And I just luv emoticons. reply share
I happen to dislike Aisha's character the most in the series. I love Sophie, and she has done a fantastic job. However, Aisha is the most inflexible, bitchiest woman I have ever seen (well, outside of Rosie!). Most of the people in this show are not the most noble people I have ever seen. They all have some problems. Hector can be an a** at times; Harry is a nasty sort; Hector's mom is very set in her ways and somewhat antiquated in her thinking; Sandi is an idiot for staying with Harry; Gary and Rosie, well I won't even bother with them; the Muslim friends of Hector and Aisha are decent people but even they irritate the heck out of me. Anouk is the one I like the most but she has some serious issues. I won't even bother with Connie and Richie because I don't even see the point of them on the show whatsoever but that is another story!
I realize there must be a large amount of background we are missing in the show that may be present in the book version, but regardless, I just don't understand her. She never gives an inch. Everything is her way or the highway. The constant digs at Hector's family and nastiness are wrong. If they say nasty things to her, then she should be nasty right back. She doesn't have to like them. However, she should constantly be trying to make Hector feel bad for being in his own family. She basically tries to cut him out. She gives ultimatums and decides what he should do. She always chooses her friends over Hector. She cares more about Rosie than Hector.
She can hate Harry all she wants, but she should not spite Sandi or Rocco because of it. Plus, he may be a bastard but for her to keep using something that happened long ago against the whole family? We can say he is a violent a-hole but I still think it had nothing to do with Rosie and Hugo's incident. I mean, if Sandi is stupid enough to stay with Harry then it is on her. Why do they invite him to the BBQ then if she hates him soooooooo much.
She can still go on a trip with her husband and children, regardless of his family relationship with her. It should be about her feelings for Hector and respect for him. She completely dismisses anything that isn't in her view of what is right or wrong.
Then there is the whole affair thing. Sure, I agree, Hector was an a&& for "cheating" with Connie, but to be honest, she is a total witch. I personally would divorce before I looked elsewhere but whatever. He is not the model of the best husband, apparently. I can certainly understand Aisha being angry with Hector for cheating, of course, but she didn't bother to tell him, well, gee Hector, I cheated too (I didn't know you did) at the Vet conference. So self-righteous and hypocritical. It irritated the hell out of me that Anouk says she shouldn't tell Hector anyway and that Hector is an A&& basically so it's okay to cheat?
One last thing (I know this is a long post, sorry!), but in the scene early on where Hector is having his anxiety attack and is crying in the bathroom in the middle of the night, Aisha calls out to him and he doesn't answer. Then she covers her ears and goes back to sleep. WTF??????? Who does that? If your spouse is crying or upset, how do you do that? I just cannot stand this woman!
Maybe I would feel different if I read the book (which I will!) but I just hate her!
Oh xena, where were you months ago when this series was airing in Australia? If you read any of my other posts you'll see that I agree with a lot of what you say. Surely your spouse's feelings should come before your friends, (especially when they are as TOXIC as Rosie and Gary). When I said she should make him and his family happy by going on the trip to Greece I got shot down because they reasoned that Aisha wouldn't enjoy it and shouldn't have to put up with his relatives. They don't seem to use the same logic when he has to put up with her friends who caused a lot of trouble for them. One poster's reasoning was that Rosie had been a friend to Aisha longer than Hector had been her husband! WTF I think their 'loyalties' may be misguided and that was proven in the last episode. BTW what country are you in? is it just airing there?
LOL Sorry I am behind! I am just catching it in the states and enjoying it a lot, even though I am disturbed by it too! I find myself yelling at the tele!
I can certainly understand friend loyalty, but when you get married, if you are putting your friends before your marriage you have a serious problem. If it is better to stick up for Rosie, as I have seen on this board, because she has known Aisha longer, then why didn't THEY get married? I mean, that is a stupid argument. I have a best friend of 28 years who I think of as a sister; she's been better to me than my real sister (with whom I do not speak anymore). However, if I were married, she would have understand that. If not, then what kind of friend is she? I don't see Rosie giving that same concept to Aisha when it comes to Gary. Rosie has serious problems. Yes, Gary is no prize, and he is a drunkard, but you know what, I actually like him more than Rosie (not saying much). Sure, he is not great to her, but she whips out her boob in front of all their friends and in front of children. That scene where she breastfeeds Hugo in front of Rocco and Adam and the other kids is just wrong. I don't care HOW natural breastfeeding is. They are children. They should not be seeing an adult's boob at a party. That is poor parenting and friendship. She could be arrested for that in the states possibly. But don't get me started on that whole can of worms or I will never stop!
One other thing with Aisha: she is mad at Hector at dinner about the deal with Harry and Sandi 9 years ago and that she kept it from Rosie for him. That is a line of crap. Secondly, what good did it do telling her now? To make HER feel better, because it didn't help to incite someone like Rosie. That was crazy. Rosie went batsh*t crazy and cursed like a sailor in a public place. I did like what Rosie said to her, though when she said, does it make YOU feel good now? You got it off your chest? That is basically what Hector did/what she told Hector when he revealed his infidelity. Aisha was doing it because she felt bad now because Hector called her on it and she wanted to make herself feel better. Not Rosie.