Loved the movie, and although the setting may have been exaggerated for comedic effect, I couldn't help wondering "is this really small town America?" due to its setting being dreary and somewhat outdated. I understand the US is still coming out of a recession and times are still tough but the film felt like it could've been set in 1989 with minimal differences. This isn't meant to be prejudiced or offensive in any way, genuinely interested if this is how Nebraska or small towns in USA look like. Thanks
Take it from someone who grew up in a county seat small town in Kansas: Almost everything about this film is really how it is on the Great Plains.
In the 60s and 70s, county seats across Kansas and Nebraska might have had as many as 5,000 people, with a sustainable model from all the farmers and their 1,000-acre setups. These individual family farms created enough population so that the towns were market centers - small ones, to be sure, but dynamic and even growing in some cases.
Technology and mass farming has almost eliminated that small of a farmstead. Today it's not uncommon for "farms" to be 50,000 acres or more, all agri-business these days. With technology and efficiencies, counties were drained of the farmers and families that supported the small towns and county seats. Not to mention, kids growing up in such small towns do their best to flee to the cities as soon as they're able.
The result is a plethora of these small towns across the Plains, once with individual populations of 4,000 or 5,000, now with perhaps 1,500 living there, median age north of 40 or even higher.
Lately some of these towns, especially in SD and ND, have re-populated thanks to the fracking bubble. That likely won't last.
In my hometown, there are exactly two national chain restaurants: A Subway and a Pizza Hut. I personally didn't set foot in a McDonald's until I was 16 and on a trip to Topeka.
When I was in high school we had 400 in the four grades and my graduating class had 84 people in it. Today, that same building houses fewer than 200 students.
I grew up in North Central Nebraska, but what you wrote in your post could have been written by me in regards to where I' grew up. You hit the nail right on the head. There is another thing, that I am sure that you will agree upon though. One of the reasons for the lessening of the population was that during the sixties, seventies and early eighties, the baby boomers were coming of age. I graduated with 81 students in 1981, now that same school I think had 36 graduating a couple of years ago. That makes a big difference.
The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new. Samuel Beckett
I understand the US is still coming out of a recession and times are still tough but the film felt like it could've been set in 1989 with minimal differences.
Yeah I agree with this completely and was thinking it throughout. It was kind of an odd thing and almost refreshing in a way seeing a modern movie that hardly contains any references to modern culture (no smartphones, social media, new music, hipsters, etc.), yet is still obviously set in the present.
It just gave it a unique, dream-like feel that doesn't match up with the average movie released in 2013. For example, it's actually pretty interesting just thinking about a very modern movie like say Crazy. Stupid. Love or This is the End and then comparing it to Nebraska and thinking that both these settings are from the same time period.
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I grew up in rural Illinois, and I can tell you...yeah. That's the way it is. Depressing as sh!t. I had to get out, which is why I now live in Chicago. Going back home is like stepping into a time portal...night and day, I tell ya.
More or less, yes. I live in the Midwest, there are many small towns similar to those displayed in the movie. It's not dreary, btw, small towns are more or less like that globally, just saying.
I grew up in a small town in OH which was the county seat of a rural area and also had quite a bit of manufacturing. It was bigger than "Hawthorne, Nebraska" but only 7000 people. It was a vibrant place in the 60s, lots of cultural activities, 99% local businesses, the farmers came to the town square to shop on Friday nights, and it was a great place to grow up.
Since then, the local factories have sent their jobs to China and Mexico. You know that iconic American toy, the Etch-a-Sketch? Once made in my home town, now it is made in China. Walmart and McDonalds and various chains moved in, that's where the farmers shop, and there are very few local businesses. When the local diner closed, in fact, the old folks in town started visiting the hospital cafeteria for their after-church lunches! This has less to do with a recession and more to do with a change in a global economy and megabusiness snuffing the life out of small towns.
You notice that mostly old people were living in Hawthorne, Nebraska. That's how it is in my home town. The local hospital does do a great business. It's not as bad as Hawthorne, but I don't like to go back, it makes me sad.
Instead of blaming WalMart and McDonalds, you may want to thank them. The small businesses and shops were probably headed for extinction anyway. The corporate stores are smart enough to run businesses where others would fail. Instead of a mom-and-pop hardware store, and a mom-and-pop shoe store, and a mom-and-pop grocery store, and a a mom-and-pop clothing store, etc., etc., WalMart is able to stay run a business by combing it all into one. Do these old folks and farmers who now shop at WalMart complain about it? Or, do they actually like it? My mom and dad (now deceased) loved WalMart. Without the corporate stores, you probably would have nothing.
The Mom and Pop shops were doing fine before Walmart came, they carried better, nicer merchandise. This is where my parents shopped and there were no complaints about prices.
Much of the rural West/Midwest still looks like this. The shots reminded me of my hometown in an Illinois farming community. I wouldn't necessarily characterize them as poor. Most of these people are large land owners with 100 or more acres. The people and setting are about as American as apple pie.
There are thousands, perhaps millions, of small towns littered all over the U.S. like Hawthorne, Nebraska. I'm from one of them. And besides differences in terrain and backdrops (mountains and hills vs. flat country), these towns are all remarkably the same, and they hardly ever change. The town of my birth, Clearfield, PA, today looks just like it did 30-40 years ago.
So outside of the big cities, yes, this is exactly what small town USA is like.
I find it weird people are surprised about about the "poverty" depicted in this film. Everybody had large houses filled with all kinds of crap; china cabinets, hard wood furniture, etc. I mean, they're not exactly living in tin shacks and *beep* in the river. Maybe it's just because I grew up in a small town. It all seems normal to me (though the film stylized in a certain way, obviously).
But yeah, I think this film depicts the elderly social life in small towns fairly realistically.
If you want to see poverty in the U.S. go to the inner cities, appalachia, etc.