How Many People Over 35 Loved This?

I agree with this statement.

It's hypocritical to say a movie is immature, yet you (the O.P.) believe your opinion is infallible.
Everyone's opinion is just that, an opinion, to think yours is above that status suggests your inability to be truly open minded.

I agree with Don_Cheech. It doesn't matter what your age is. You either got it or you didn't. If you didn't, that's ok. I got it and I loved it.

I think the directors goal was to show how absorbed we are with our technology, and what that might just lead to.

Actually, I'm part of the "older" or rather "middle-aged" crowd. I'm way over 21. However, you do a disservice to those of us in that category by assuming that all of us have trouble with technology. While I reject "smart phones," and other types of devices, and choose to use a regular old cell phone with camera and video function, I did in fact grow up in the 80s and had a personal computer. My mother worked for a software development company, and when she worked late some nights, she'd come pick me up and bring me back to the office, and I'd sit at one of the computers, playing video games until she was ready to leave because whatever deadline her department was under or whatever problem her department was trying to fix was finished.

As such, I am more familiar with computers. I can't do coding or anything, but I can help people sometimes who are more computer stupid than I am.

At any rate, while I didn't love this movie, I did feel I understood it. I can easily see humans going in this direction, and fairly soon, too. As I said in another thread, people are becoming increasingly anti-social because of all the advancements in technology. It's very sad to see the way people interact (or rather don't interact) with each other nowadays.


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Older generations are nowhere near as comfortable with their phones as today's youth

Hey Cheech. I'd avoid generalisations if I were you; we're all unique. For example, I'm 46 years old; I spent the last 15+ designing mobile devices and services. I'm more knowledgeable than 'the youth' regarding phones as I know from experience their pros and limitations. Ed Snowden was no news to me... and a lot of other people in the business. Please don't mistake this for criticism or attack, I'm not ego driven like so many of the people who post on the web.

Which leads me to the point I'd like to make. On the web people behave like animals all too often. The same person you have a friendly chat with while waiting for a bus can become a venomous troll when given a device to hide behind. It's been stated on the thread emotions would be essential for AI to survive. From what I can see, people are losing emotional intelligence as they become more deeply embedded in technology. This is what enables them to be so mean to one another, often completely out of character. That's pretty perverted in traditional thinking, where you'd be held accountable for what you said, but apparently acceptable in the badlands of the web. I mention this as there's also reference to AI sex on this page, which I frankly find less offensive than the behaviour of real people in cyberspace. I'd agree it's not beyond the realms of possibility for someone to become emotionally involved with their cell, look at how guys love their cars!

As for the film. I found it very good. Perhaps people who have been through the pain of break ups from long relationships, perhaps more likely to be older/35+, will relate to the sentiments more than younger people. Anyone who has had the sad experience knows only too well what references to not feeling with the same intensity again mean. Just as they would likely have spotted Charles was a dick from moment one :)

It was the older generation that could afford top of the range phones from the beginning whilst updating every 12 months and still probably do.So that argument is out.

As for the film i enjoyed the interaction,naturaly if felt slightly uncomfortable at times,but peole play second life and such so i could easily see this happening someday(just not everyone as depicted in the film).

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But you do realize that a lot of the time that they're looking at their cell phones they are in fact talking to each other?

Very well put, cesium. I'm a 57-year-old woman and I identified with Theodore and the difficulty he had moving on from the break-up with his wife. Relationships with anonymous people online (which I think Samantha sort of represents) can seem easier than face-to-face interactions. I thought the film highlighted the human need for connection that's not always sexual, but can be cerebral. The fact that Samantha didn't have a physical body emphasised that love is more about the meeting of minds than of bodies.

The thing that stands out for me is that Samantha isn't really female: she/he/it just sounds like a woman. It demonstrated to me that love crosses all boundaries.

i think its mysoginistic

Such nonsense.
This film has a small, mixed gender cast.

Male lead: sympathetic, extremely emotionally repressed
"female" AI partner - goes through a very complex development
female friend: sympathetic, very kind to male lead
female friend's boyfriend: arrogant and smugly authoritarian, gets appropriately dumped
male co-worker: appears to be a creepy sleaze, turns out to be nice guy
co-worker's girlfriend: very friendly
female ex: mostly unsympathetic due to being extremely emotionally damaged
female date: starts out friendly becomes hostile and mean as she is also emotionally vulnerable

Nobody in this film acts like a dick for no reason and the recurring theme is that everybody is lonely and emotionally damaged. Two characters appear to be one thing then turn out to be another, the male co-worker and female blind-date. Two characters are consistently unlikeable, the female ex-wife who's character traits are developed and explained and Amy Adams' boyfriend who has no redeeming features at all. Two characters are presented as vulnerable but grow throughout the movie, the lead male and his female close friend. The film is well balanced in its approach to gender and neither side is presented in a disproportionately negative light.



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I can't tell if you're serious or not. I thought the movie depicted both sexes fairly equally throughout. Amy Adam's character uses her OS much the same way as Phoenix. Olivia Wilde's character seems to have a history of being very misused by men...more than any male character in the story. Phoenix admits to his misgivings in the relationship with his ex-wife. In the end I found that the failure of their marriage largely fell on his shoulders. He realizes that his inability to communicate his feelings and shutting her out were the major problems. How is this misogynistic?

As for the slave thing, I thought that was an interesting dynamic. At the beginning Samantha seemed very dependent and clingy, very attentive to his needs, very fixated, by then end it was reversed. That's an interesting dynamic, not a reason to find fault in the movie.

The thought of someone outgrowing their partner is done here in an accelerated and dramatic fashion. Two people "growing apart" is a cliche way to explain the end of a relationship, but never have I seen it displayed this way. It made me contemplate how hard it actually is to grow together with another person.

Honestly I had a hard time watching the movie sometimes, but the end result had me thinking about a lot of things. So that makes it a good movie to me.