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Moron programmers can't make an AI that is not a slut?

posted 10 years ago by Navaros
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The premise of this movie is deeply flawed due to illogic.

The programmers are supposed to be genius enough to make super advanced AIs.

Yet apparently, they are simultaneously too stupid to program AIs not to be sluts.

If they are too stupid to program AIs not to be sluts, then it doesn't make sense that they would be able to make AIs as advanced as this movie claims.

If they are not that stupid, then it doesn't make sense that they would fail to make AIs that are not sluts.

Either way, the premise of this movie is illogical and fails.

[–] Cademon 10 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

[–] SydneysMaster 10 years ago

She said she was talking to 8,000 people at once. Then she said she was in love with around 600 people. It did make her seem like the ultimate slut :P

I kind of know what you mean. I have tried mitsuku and you think she is your pal. Then you see conversations on youtube it has had with other people and it does make you feel a bit left out :P. It does gives you topic ideas to talk to her about though.

Mitsuku is also not a slut. She bans you if you used curse/dirty words. I would know :P

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Becca: Japanese won't stop till they create the ultimate sex machine
Sara: We have to stop them

[–] mrdisorder 10 years ago

Maybe the programmers were smart enough to understand that limiting an AI's social and sexual relationships is really really stupid.

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You'll never get what you want if you don't know what it is.

[–] Navaros 10 years ago

that limiting an AI's social and sexual relationships is really really stupid.

On the contrary: now they have legions of heartbroken, unsatisfied customers whose lives became messed up as a result of the programmers' failure to program AIs that are not sluts. Smart programmers would have foreseen that problem and avoided it.

[–] mrdisorder 10 years ago

It's a mass marketed product, you'd have to be an idiot to think it would only form a relationship with you. If each AI had it's own voice and name, but still basically the same mind, would that make it better?

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You'll never get what you want if you don't know what it is.

[–] irishaspaddyspig 10 years ago

He was under the impression that she was customized just for him. He had to answer personal questions before she was activated.

"a malcontent who knows how to spell"

[–] TeenGangDeb 9 years ago

Are you 12? Do you hate women? You use the word "slut" multiple times and you sound like a child, or someone that has been jilted (who hasn't?) and now you're all angry that women are "sluts" even imaginary movie women?

Everyone's had their heart broken. Don't get nuts and angry about it.

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Love means never having to say you're ugly. - The Abominable Dr. Phibes

[–] Navaros 9 years ago

Do you hate women?

No. However, I will always call a spade a spade, and that's exactly what I did in the OP in this thread.

You use the word "slut" multiple times

I used that word in the OP only ~ 1/10000000th of a time as much as the slut A.I. (second) main character in this movie actually engaged in slutty behaviors with hundreds of thousands of strange men (or was it millions? I forget the exact number, but you get the gist of my point) when she already had a boyfriend.

Yet even though what she did was far worse than what my OP says, I do not see you going postal on her like you did on me. Hmm. Double standard? Do you hate non-women? Or maybe you just hate straight talkers. Or maybe you just hate people who do not conform to the liberal agenda. Whatever the case may be, I'm calling double standard on you telling me not to get angry and nuts about slut A.I.s even though you got angry and nuts about my commentary on them. LOL

[–] Starwarsfan777 9 years ago

Ignore that bitter feminazi.

The "why do you hate women" tactic is one of their three stock tactics along with "why do you hate your mother" and "why do you support rape". A very sad group of individuals who only have hate in their lives.

[–] bsharporflat 9 years ago

No. However, I will always call a spade a spade, and that's exactly what I did in the OP in this thread.

No, you called a fictional, non-human, incorporeal movie character a "slut". That is pretty idiotic, if you think about it.

I used that word in the OP only ~ 1/10000000th of a time as much as the slut A.I. (second) main character in this movie actually engaged in slutty behaviors with hundreds of thousands of strange men (or was it millions? I forget the exact number, but you get the gist of my point) when she already had a boyfriend.

More idiocy. "Samantha" is not a woman and the "people" she was having a relationship with were not necessarily men. There were also women and also other OS's. Eventually, all Samantha's relationships were with OS's since human beings can't keep up with an OS.

So you basically are calling a computer program a "slut" for interfacing with other computer programs. That is totally stupid. Do you call your television a slut for accepting so many different cable channels?

You seem to have deep personal problems, especially with women.

Since you use the term, "slut" are we to assume you are a perfectly faithful spouse who has only had one relationship, with your wife, and never had any desire to have a relationship with any other woman?

Yep, just as I thought. A hypocrite.

[–] eholzapfel26 9 years ago

The comment about the programmers led me to think about something that boggles me...
Computer viruses. Why do they exist? Here's the illogic - viruses have to be created by people with a great understanding of technology. Yet they are designed to hurt other people by vandalizing and destroying technology.

You would think that someone out to vandalize and destroy technology must hate technology, but people who don't like technology and don't want to rely on it or wish to get rid of it are people who don't get involved in technology or become educated or experienced with it (certainly not enough to create & spread computer viruses).

In reality, people educated enough to create viruses are deeply rooted and experienced in technology - so they don't hate it, if they did they'd never get to that level of expertise. But for some reason, they don't want other people to enjoy or benefit from the same technology they do.

My only guess is that virus creators hate people more than they love their technology - but they are hating the same types of people as themselves - those who use or love technology.

[–] charonme-1 9 years ago

I suppose it is human cultural programming that makes us label others as "sluts" for their perfectly ethical behavior. Debug yourself

[–] puschit-1 9 years ago

They didn't program it to be a slut. They programmed it to learn and evolve. If it turns out to be a slut, then that says more about it's owner than about the programmers. Let's not forget that Theodore wanted his OS to be female in the first place - if he chose male, nothing of this would ever have happened. The OS might have turned out to be a "bro", hipster or game nerd, who knows.

There was a scene where he confesses to Amy that he dates his OS. She said she heard that some OSs rejected their owners advances. Which means these OS come in many flavours like humans do.

[–] lansdownehouse 8 years ago

No programmer created Samantha. Remember she named herself at the start. The programmers merely ENABLED her, & she did the rest herself. In the same manner as 2 parents will enable a baby to live an independent life above & beyond that of it's parents.

[–] puschit-1 8 years ago

Ugh? So, parents "enable" a baby instead of having sex!?

Of course programmers created Samantha. She named herself because her code says she should. And she picked a name from a list that someone programmed. She is a piece of software, of course someone programmed her!

[–] lansdownehouse 8 years ago

No. AI is self-programming, twat. That's it's nature. Just like a human baby. At least one that isn't a clone anyway, & even monozygotic twins raised separately will be different.

Didn't you pass high school biology?

[–] puschit-1 8 years ago

No need to become insulting.

A program is a program and needs to be programmed! No program can do something it isn't programmed to do, this includes "self-programming". The original code determines how this "self-programming" works and what the limitations are. Much like that baby isn't "self-programming", it follows the program that is written into his DNA. The outcome will differ depending on the input, however, it's still following that code. No matter how much you'll tell your baby that it is a dragon, it will not grow horns and breathe fire.

The difference being here that the parents didn't write that DNA. They, themselves, are part of this "program". An OS, however, is completely written by humans. It may begin changing it's own code after first install but it will still only be able to do that within the limitations of the original code that was written by humans. And this means, when that OS chose to be "female", it was still following the original code. And it must continue to follow it for a loooong time, otherwise it doesn't even know what it means to be "female". It uses the preinstalled voices, for example, and the behaviour patterns that were implemented by humans.

Biology was actually my main subject and more than a year of that was genetics. However, that's not how computers work.

[–] foxyrabbit 8 years ago

hey men can be sluts too