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Funniest part of the movie. The scenes with Martin Short were good too.

Everything else was too disconnected; couldn't stay interested in the plot. Still, it was interesting. I liked it about as well as The Master.

PTA is falling off.

"Utah...Get me two."

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The Master is perfection. Falling off is far from happening. PTA is making the smartest and boldest films of his career

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I dunno, brothah. Boogie Nights, Magnolia, and Punch-Drunk Love were great movies from start to finish, and I watched, rapt. There Will Be Blood was a masterpiece. The Master and Inherent Vice were just... Not as good. Too fragmented, too strange.

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Strange just means new, different, or unfamiliar. Fragmented means the narrative wasn't conventional.

I find Boogie Nights is more shallow-surfaced than his latest films. Inherent Vice & The Master are much more interesting and rewarding to rewatch for me. It's a frequency or a tone I have to be open to for myself to really enjoy, but when I'm in the right mood, man are these films fun and fascinating.

The Master and Inherent Vice are thematically more complex and broad than Anderson's earlier work. The Master I think deals with the limitations of human-kind, while Inherent Vice I haven't quite figured out yet how to define it simply.

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What do you mean by limits of human kind? As in the 'need for a master' type thing?



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Freddy wants to believe the mythology of the Cause, merely because it helps him. This mythology is interchangeable with any religion, because it's fundamentally a myth. Then in the jail scene, he has a meltdown and screams "You're making this *beep* up!". So, as much as he loves Dodd as a human being and as much as Dodd has helped him, it only goes so far for a man with "free winds and no tyranny", before it's revealed for what it really is.

This is just a very recent thought, but that whole "Application 45"/ window-wall scene can be viewed as a microcosm for any of man's duty; war, work, it's the day-to-day daily grind, going in arbitrary circles and pretending to see new things or new meaning.

PTA also mentioned once in an interview that Freddy is the type of person who runs off when he receives too much love. I think Freddy mostly prefers to be alone.

[i'“We're born alone, we live alone, we die alone. Only through our love and friendship can we create the illusion for the moment that we're not alone.”[/i]
Orson Welles

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