I got this movie and fully understood it, however its one of worst films I have ever seen. Sloppy film making from start to finish with a predictable ending too. Poor sound poor camera work
I wouldn't even call it Horror come on are you having a laugh?
Director, lets just throw a few random thoughts and nightmares from my youth at the screen, and nick bits from "The Wicker man"
Poor camerawork? Are you blind by any chance?
shareOut of Focus CHECK
Bobbing about CHECK (no camera dolly ?)
Jumpy CHECK
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Read the boards, and you will find that this isn't the oscar winning film you obviously think it is.
Finally I have read your CV, You seem to enjoy remakes and not original fair, oh and your a massive fanboy for Prometheus which says it all and sums things up rather nicely.
You're telling me to read the boards--a verb--something you're completely unfamiliar with seeing as I'm not a fan of 'Prometheus.' Evidently, you think by going through my post history without actually reading the posts--that some how equates to me liking it. Yes, to read; clearly a concept you struggle mightily with. Dumbass.
Oh, and just so you know--pulling the whole "Oscar" shtick is about as outdated as calling someone pretentious or a troll. Try harder.
What's the problem with Prometheus? I like it.
"Your mother's in here with us, Karras. Would you like to leave a message?"
Spelling.
"Nothing says "OBEY ME" like a severed head on a fence post."
What an incredibly stupid post.
shareEdward Evans is clearly a complete simpleton. I myself looked at his Message Board history and the fact that he favours Predator 2 over The French Connection, which he gave up on after 45 minutes, is enough in itself to forever discredit his opinions.
And what's more, he seems to have named himself after one of the Moors Murders victims.
An utter bellend.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty crap also.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Sorry my bad, I got Promethus mixed up with Sex and the City 1 & 2. Oh and if I want your opinion then I will ask for it, guess what I'm not asking as i don't value it or consider it worth looking at.
My advice to you is to stick to commenting on the hand full of movies you have watched (about 3 including the above) and look forward with schoolboy glee to the following remakes you seen to have a keen interest in Robocop, Carrie.
Corpus Vile sums it up simply, so that makes two of us who think and know this is not the arthouse piece you claim it to be.
your on my ignore list
You posted your thoughts--albeit incredibly stupid thoughts--on a forum that is public domain. I couldn't give an iota of a f-ck if you wanted my opinion or not--I'm going to express it regardless. If you don't want people to take apart your weak, unfounded claims, then don't make stupid threads, you mook.
I don't have the slightest interest in the 'RoboCop' remake, you simpleton. Did I not just point out that you shouldn't browse through someone's post history to try and gauge their interests? Perhaps you should actually READ those posts; you know, that little verb I posted in my last address to you.
Oh ho! Two stupid people don't think it's a good movie. That makes it an objective fact.
Idiot.
I'm stupid because I... have a different opinion than you do? Okay.
Anyhoo, yeah, I thought this was crap. It had a good atmosphere & decent performances, but the film itself was an experimental, incoherent mess that disappeared up its own arse with an ending I considered a middle finger to the audience. Basically, it made no sense and it was almost as if the makers either ran out of ideas half way through their film, or else had no real idea of a coherent plot to begin with. This might have worked as a short, but as a full length feature, it was dire. There seems to be this recent trend for experimental horror films the past six years or so, what with this, YellowBrickRoad, Cherry Tree Lane, Berberian Sound Studios and 36 Pasos, and the only one that worked for me, was 36 Pasos, which is a gem. I thought the rest were crap.
That having said, I'm apparently in the minority with this opinion regarding Kill List among horror fans. A friend of mine loved it and was surprised I disliked it so much. Plenty of posters on the horror board whose opinions I respect also liked it. (Unlike you, I don't think they're stupid for having a different opinion than mine.) And some, like myself, the OP and a handful of others didn't.
Now, this, contrary to your sarcasm doesn't make it an objective fact, any more than your opining that it was great is an objective fact. That's the whole purpose of jawing on a film board- discourse as opposed to arrogant absolutist comments followed by butthurt and ad hominem attacks, which seems to be your style, but considering you've only registered last year, I'll assume that you're new to this whole internet message board thingy and I'll let you find your own way.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Are there any more overused terms on IMDb than "pretentious" or "ad hominem"? I swear, it's like you vapid, anti-intellectuals who've never had an education going beyond the 7th grade see new terms that are completely foreign to your nimble brains and you soak em' up like sponges and spit em' out like they're immediately going out of style. Get a new shtick already, you predictable tardmuscles.
And your complaints for the film are incredibly shallow; so shallow in fact, that it goes for beyond the pit of the jarring, nonlinear format which you accuse this film of. Incoherent you say? Compared to what? A Jodorowsky film? How did it not make any sense? The structure of the film is told through a linear format while simultaneously declining to fill in any gaps. And the film is better that way--it's better because the protagonist has an established relationship with all the characters who appear throughout--obviously linking him to the cultist group that gets him in the end--which ironically is almost a spitting image of a scene in the first act where Jay is carrying his son on his back.
A film isn't incoherent because it doesn't rely on excessive exposition to spoon-feed its audience. This isn't a "midnight movie" we're talking about here. You're just too stupid to understand the narrative context that Ben Wheatley aimed for.
So yes, you're stupid.
P.S. I've been on this forum since 2009. My last account was wiped out for an unexplained reason. Take your shallow, noobistic tactics to a user who's as intellectually challenged as you are, you f-cking dunce.
Uhuh. More ad hominems and whinging, so I'm not gonna bother addressing your first paragraph.
Yes. Incoherent. Compared to say, Day of the Dead, The Exorcist, Brain Damage, Night of the Creeps, Creepshow, The Burning Halloween (goes on for another five hours with lots and lots more films) You get the message now?
Yes. Declining to fill in the gaps is what made it... incoherent. (take your time. It'll come to you.)
No, it wasn't a case of needing to be spoonfed. It was a case of the film being incoherent... is this actually computing with you yet?
I've been hear since 2008. Longer than you. Yet I'm a "noob"? Are you sure it's me who's the stupid one here?
And you were prolly wiped for being the obnoxious bore you're being now, and somebody got butthurt? You reckon that might be the reason?
Anyhoo, you've given nothing of real substance to back up your opinion besides, whingey ad hominems. Do you have any actual y'know... point to make here? or are you still under the impression that being an obnoxious keyboard warrior is actually fresh and edgy?
Btw, I'm choking on the irony of someone calling another person intellectually challenged, while proactively having to resort to ad hominems, to mask the fact that he can't argue his point with any validity. get back to me when you've finished your emo-esque hissy fit meltdown, and when you actually have a point to make, mate.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Oh my God you are too easy to paraphrase.
FYI, resorting to so called acts of blackening aren't a reflection of one's intellectual prowess, you f-cking nimrod. I call you names because you're stupid; cut and dry.
Yes. Incoherent. Compared to say, Day of the Dead, The Exorcist, Brain Damage, Night of the Creeps, Creepshow, The Burning Halloween (goes on for another five hours with lots and lots more films) You get the message now?
Yes it is, for the reasons I pointed out.
No, you call me names because I disagree with you and you're apparently incapable of debating coherently, which is probably why you like incoherent films so much.
No, Kill List doesn't share the same narrative similitude to the aforementioned films. Reason being, Kill List has an incoherent narrative, whereas the other aforementioned films... don't. Is this finally kicking in? No?
"Have you even watched this film or you just stringing together belies of words and flinging them at me in a weak attempt of hoping that they'll stick? For someone who's so curt about my apparent inability to bring forth an argument filled with substance, the genesis of your your entire argument is predicated on uninformative nouns and adjectives, which you loosely throw around as opposed to providing any sense of elucidation to lend your claims credence."
Ah... you're funny. And read my original reply to you, in which I gave clear reasons why I disliked it. try to keep up.
I didn't think Santa Sangre actually followed the same similar narrative and that's beside the point anyhoo. Kill List wasn't visually striking.
"There's nothing remotely incoherent about "kill List""
Even funnier...
Actually, I found it nothing like a John Waters flick, nor have I ever found a waters flick incoherent. and I personally find Von Trier a pretentious self indulgent windbag. I thought Antichrist sucked ballz too, and don't even get me started on The Idiots.
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Actually, no, I merely assumed that because of your whingey emo little hissy fit, you were actually new to this whole internet lark, as keyboard warriors got stale circa 1999. I had no idea that this is your natural highly strung demeanour, my bad.
Actually, I never said this film sucks, I said that I personally thought it was pretty crap. I then said that my opinion was no more of an objective fact than yours was. You clearly have a rather short attention span, so... try to keep up, as it'll become somewhat boring having to constantly keep you up to speed.
Anyhoo, feel like whinging some more there, cecil?
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
You do a stellar job of typing up a bunch of words that contain a whole lot of nothing (and this douchenozzle claims I don't provide any substance?)--your ubiquitous cursoriness when it comes to actually having to provide valid reasons as to what makes this film so incoherent--to borrow your lame-duck phraseology--is exactly why it's so easy to use you as a textual punching bag.
No, Kill List doesn't share the same narrative similitude to the aforementioned films. Reason being, Kill List has an incoherent narrative, whereas the other aforementioned films... don't. Is this finally kicking in? No?
I didn't think Santa Sangre actually followed the same similar narrative
Kill List wasn't visually striking.
Actually, I found it nothing like a John Waters flick, nor have I ever found a waters flick incoherent. and I personally find Von Trier a pretentious self indulgent windbag. I thought Antichrist sucked ballz too, and don't even get me started on The Idiots.
Actually, no, I merely assumed that because of your whingey emo little hissy fit, you were actually new to this whole internet lark, as keyboard warriors got stale circa 1999. I had no idea that this is your natural highly strung demeanour, my bad.
Actually, I never said this film sucks, I said that I personally thought it was pretty crap.
"You do a stellar job of typing up a bunch of words that contain a whole lot of nothing (and this douchenozzle claims I don't provide any substance?)--your ubiquitous cursoriness when it comes to actually having to provide valid reasons as to what makes this film so incoherent--to borrow your lame-duck phraseology--is exactly why it's so easy to use you as a textual punching bag".
Oh man... Um, what was that other phrase you were whinging about, apart from ad hominem? It wasn't... "pretentious", was it? Just wondering, like.
"I love how you have to take my terms and attempt to shovel them back at me like a snow from a driveway because you're so devoid of articulating a response that goes beyond the simplistically derivative harangue that you repetitiously spew at me. Try coming up with a response that goes beyond "Kill List is incoherent but those other films aren't" Yes, I'm sure someone as intellectually-vapid as yourself can totally understand the symbolic references in 'El Topo.' I'm sure someone of your remedially educated stature is capable of soaking up the religious subtext in 'The Holy Mountain' and putting it together in an adjective that goes beyond abnormal."
My God, could you be any more pretentious and full of hot air?
"No--not the narrative itself--the structure. Please try to pay attention and keep up."
Ah. So now it's the "structure" and not the "Narrative-similitude"? Do you even remember the windbaggery you come out with in previous posts?
The only thing you've shown is that apart from basically unable to articulate your point without screaming hissy fit ad hominems, you're also prone to changing things midway to suit your blathering.
"I understand you're not the sharpest tool in the box, so this informative ass-kicking you're receiving may be a bit too convoluted for you to handle--but even the context of my original sentence should've been impossible to misinterpret, you knob."
Uhuh. This from the guy who can't even remember what he posted during this thread? Dear oh dear. Your self delusion is hilarious.
"The f-ck it wasn't."
Indeed it wasn't. That's about the smartest thing you've said throughout this entire and way entertaining for me exchange.
"The Librarian sequence".
Meh.
"Fiona waving up at Jay".
It was a chick waving brah. Hardly earth shattering.
"The entire cultist sequence-- the ENTIRETY of it".
Nah. Didn't wow me mate. In fact, that was probably the most annoying part of it, actually.
"All of those shots were composed beautifully--and viscerally--making it all the more, you know, striking."
No they weren't, and certainly not akin to El Topo.
"You have no idea about what you're talking about."
As opposed to you who thinks Kill List is akin to a John Waters flick?
"It really does beg one to wonder if you actually ever did watch this film". I actually spent money on a cinema ticket to see it.
"For all I know, you're probably the sock account for the OP; an idiot who sucks just as hard as you do at coming up with a well articulate and informative rebuttal".
... Or, I could be someone who simply doesn't agree with you Cecil, has that ever occurred to you?
"Wow, you are dumb. I'm willing to bet you've never watched a single John Waters film, let alone understand one".
So to clarify, Kill List reminded you of Cry Baby,
Serial Mom, Cecil B Demented, Hairspray and Pecker?
"Don't post stupid sh!t and I won't RIGHTFULLY call you stupid. Plain and simple. I'm not going to be faulted for your inability to function on an even keel with the lest of a moderately educated society, you dumbass".
... Except you've yet to refute what I actually said, Cecil. You've just whinged, like a great big whinger.
"Those two terms are synonymous with one another in this context, you f-cking nimrod".
No they aren't, not contextually or otherwise, Cecil. Don't be silly.
"How can someone possibly be this stupid?"
Or self delusional.
"You are honestly a waste of oxygen. A burden to society. A prime example of what is currently wrong with the educational systems in this world."
And you are without a doubt one of the most entertaining trolls, or better yet entertaining pretentious windbags I've ever come across on IMDB... and I've been posting here four years.
Anyhoo Cecil, I'm sensing you're still in highly strung mode here, so when ya manage to think up an actual coherent argument that doesn't simply have you coming across as pissing your diddies, in an apoplexy of butthurt, then let me know.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
>Paraphrase the term "pretentious" before this moron uses it...
>moron uses it anyway.
Similitude is synonymous with a model--a model which is also synonymous with a narrative structure--you f-cking imbecile.
Indeed it wasn't. That's about the smartest thing you've said throughout this entire and way entertaining for me exchange.
and certainly not akin to El Topo.
As opposed to you who thinks Kill List is akin to a John Waters flick?
So to clarify, Kill List reminded you of Cry Baby,
Serial Mom, Cecil B Demented, Hairspray and Pecker?
Except you've yet to refute what I actually said, Cecil.
Or self delusional.
and I've been posting here four years.
Blah blah waffle waffle what a deeply boring and unoriginal poster you are cecil. Tell me, why do you keep back pedaling here?
On the one hand, it has a "Narrative similitude". Then it's "Not the narrative itself--the structure", and now it's "Similitude is synonymous with a model--a model which is synonymous with a narrative structure"
Dear oh dear, you just can't seem to live up to your assertions here, what gives?
My god, your second paragraph is even more pompous & pretentious windbaggery, superceded only by your jaw dropping hyprocrisy.
My contention was that the film was incoherent, which it was, and which you've yet to refute.
Not the point Cecil, the film is not akin to El Topo. Sorry.
Ah. So on the one hand, it's akin to a John Waters flick, yet when given five counter examples, your response is akin to "Oh I like obviously totally meant his other films apart from those five counterexamples offered!"
I'm sensing a pattern here Cecil. Namely you talking $hite, getting called on your $hite and then trying to slither your way outa what you said, after being proven utterly wrong.
Nope. Refute what I said, Cecil. How was the film Kill List not incoherent and nonsensical in terms of plot and story? Wow me, Cecil.
Nope, I'm n ot the one hurling ad hominems and getting all whingey, while backtracking on what I said, cecil. Only idiot here appears to be you, I'm afraid.
I use emoticons when unable to take hissy fit hypocritical trolls remotely seriously, Cecil.
Still waiting for you to refute what I said btw.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Perhaps if your education wasn't so substratal you'd actually understand the proper lexicon of the word "similitude." Let's get back to basics for the Layman; I said the narrative structure--key word being structure--you know, the ingredient that decides how linear or nonlinear a story will unfold--is most certainly similar to the works of Jodorowsky and Waters. We're not talking about the narrative content--we're talking about its STRUCTURE. And how does 'Kill List' follow a correlative format similar to those directors' midnight films you might ask? Because the film is told through an unorthodox, nonlinear format. A film being nonlinear doesn't inherently make it incoherent, you vapid, anti-intellectual.
My god, your second paragraph is even more pompous & pretentious windbaggery, superceded only by your jaw dropping hyprocrisy. []
My contention was that the film was incoherent, which it was, and which you've yet to refute.
the film is not akin to El Topo. Sorry.
Ah. So on the one hand, it's akin to a John Waters flick, yet when given five counter examples, your response is akin to "Oh I like obviously totally meant his other films apart from those five counterexamples offered!" []
I'm sensing a pattern here Cecil. Namely you talking $hite, getting called on your $hite and then trying to slither your way outa what you said, after being proven utterly wrong.
Nope. Refute what I said, Cecil. How was the film Kill List not incoherent and nonsensical in terms of plot and story? Wow me, Cecil.
Only idiot here appears to be you, I'm afraid.
I use emoticons when unable to take hissy fit hypocritical trolls remotely seriously, Cecil.
Nope cecil, you backpedaled and are now twisting yourself up in knots trying to convince me that you weren't backpedaling.
Actually, you proactively mentioned its "Narrative similitude" and are now insisting it's not that but "structure".
Try to keep up Cecil.
No, sorry Cecil, you've yet to explain precisely why it isn't incoherent. You've just pissed yer diddies some more.
Except you haven't provided any valid examples as both your Jodorowski and Waters comparisons have been well and truly shot to $hit.
So try again Cecil. With y'know... valid examples this time.
How do you know I've never watched it? You seem to think I haven't watched Kill List or a John waters film either, yet are effortlessly proven wrong in your Waters comparison.
Lol, more backpedaling and desperate wriggling from you, Cecil.
See, you mentioned Waters. I provided five examples of his films, none of which are like Kill List. You then claimed you didn't mean those John Waters films. You realise how pathetic you look here?
I already did provide examples, in my original reply to you. Yet again... try to keep up. (You sure you don't need things "spoonfed" to you btw?)
Lol, cecil cecil cecil... using fancy words doesn't equate to saying anything of any actual substance, surely you know this?
You haven't actually said anything at all of any substance. All you've done is whinge, acted all pretentious, gotten catty, had a bit of a meltdown, whinged some more and then tried to wriggle your way outa things after being consistently unable to back up your burblings.
Nope, I use emoticons excessively with you, cuz
A) You're impossible to take seriously, as whingey keyboard warrior trolls like you are 10 a penny on the internetz.
B) I get the impression they make you even more butthurt, if such a thing were possible.
Anyhoo, anything of substance to contribute? No?
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Nope cecil, you backpedaled and are now twisting yourself up in knots trying to convince me that you weren't backpedaling. []
Actually, you proactively mentioned its "Narrative similitude" and are now insisting it's not that but "structure".
Try to keep up Cecil.
No, sorry Cecil, you've yet to explain precisely why it isn't incoherent. You've just pissed yer diddies some more
How do you know I've never watched it? You seem to think I haven't watched Kill List or a John waters film either, yet are effortlessly proven wrong in your Waters comparison.
You realise how pathetic you look here?
Lol, cecil cecil cecil... using fancy words doesn't equate to saying anything of any actual substance, surely you know this?
You haven't actually said anything at all of any substance. All you've done is whinge, acted all pretentious, gotten catty, had a bit of a meltdown, whinged some more and then tried to wriggle your way outa things after being consistently unable to back up your burblings.
I already did provide examples, in my original reply to you. Yet again... try to keep up. (You sure you don't need things "spoonfed" to you btw? [] )
Nope, I use emoticons excessively with you, cuz
A) You're impossible to take seriously, as whingey keyboard warrior trolls like you are 10 a penny on the internetz.
B) I get the impression they make you even more butthurt, if such a thing were possible.
No you didn't and mindlessly repeating that you did doesn't make it so.
So because I disagree with you, I therefore don't understand it and haven't watched it? Okay.
Yes I did refute it. Seeing as you need to be spoonfed, I'll spell this out for you again: You said Kill List was akin to John Waters. I gave examples of Waters' filmography. You then blustered that those weren't the Waters' films you meant.
And no, it isn't a 100% irrefutable fact. If it was, I wouldn't have been able to prove you wrong with the five examples given. You're... not very bright are ya Cecil?
Tired routine? Your entire exchange has been one note- whingey ad hominems, pompus head up yer arse tone, blustering attempts to wriggle outa things when proven wrong, etc. So again... do you honestly realise how utterly pathetic you look here? Or is ignorance truly bliss?
Yes cecil. Fancy words without any actual substance behind them, which merely has you coming across as a pretentious, pseudo intellectual twat.
Uh, no Cecil. You haven't. You've merely mentioned individual scenes and then asserted they were visually striking and no incoherent... again, without anything to back it up. Tsk tsk.
Nah, your vimeo link doesn't look all that to me, Cecil. Asserting that it's awesome is neither here nor there.
Tell me though, what is so stand out about it, apart from being merely solid, as opposed to being genuinely arresting?
Yes, and also mentioned its nonsensical ending cecil. Again... try to keep up mate. I also mentioned how basically it didn't have enough fleshed out ideas for a full length feature and would have been more effective as a short, which imo it would have been.
Sorry you disagree.
No, I use emoticons because they're clearly annoying you no end, and it's my way of highlighting how entertaining you are for me, albeit unintentionally.
And Kill List still sucks cecil. Accept it and move on.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
No you didn't and mindlessly repeating that you did doesn't make it so.
So because I disagree with you, I therefore don't understand it and haven't watched it? Okay.
Yes I did refute it. Seeing as you need to be spoonfed, I'll spell this out for you again: You said Kill List was akin to John Waters. I gave examples of Waters' filmography. You then blustered that those weren't the Waters' films you meant. []
And no, it isn't a 100% irrefutable fact. If it was, I wouldn't have been able to prove you wrong with the five examples given. You're... not very bright are ya Cecil?
Tired routine? Your entire exchange has been one note- whingey ad hominems, pompus head up yer arse tone, blustering attempts to wriggle outa things when proven wrong, etc. So again... do you honestly realise how utterly pathetic you look here? Or is ignorance truly bliss?
Yes cecil. Fancy words without any actual substance behind them, which merely has you coming across as a pretentious, pseudo intellectual twat
Uh, no Cecil. You haven't. You've merely mentioned individual scenes and then asserted they were visually striking and no incoherent... again, without anything to back it up. Tsk tsk
Nah, your vimeo link doesn't look all that to me, Cecil. Asserting that it's awesome is neither here nor there. []
Tell me though, what is so stand out about it, apart from being merely solid, as opposed to being genuinely arresting?
Yes, and also mentioned its nonsensical ending cecil. Again... try to keep up mate. I also mentioned how basically it didn't have enough fleshed out ideas for a full length feature and would have been more effective as a short, which imo it would have been.
No, I use emoticons because they're clearly annoying you no end, and it's my way of highlighting how entertaining you are for me, albeit unintentionally.
Nope, providing links and then asserting that it backs up your point when it actually doesn't, again is neither here nor there Cecil.
Well, I don't cecil, particularly Sangre. Sorry.
And no, yet more blustering attempts to wriggle your way outa what you said, isn't gonna change what you said, nor is it gonna make you look any less stupid.
Except you didn't specifically mention multiple Maniacs or Pink Flamingos, you made a generalised statement on how Kill List was akin to a John Waters flick. Then you were given no less then five examples as to how full of crap you were... then you blustered and backtracked and wriggled and made yourself look really silly.
Ah. So now you mean his "mainstream" films, huh? Yet more wriggling from you cecil.
Dude, man tf up and admit your comparison was jaw droppingly wrong and I might have some modicum of respect for you here.
No cecil, I'm merely pointing out how tired, one note and stale your little routine is. It's been done lots of times before by people more eloquent, intelligent and entertaining than you. That having said, you're still way entertaining.
Also, I never called you narcissistic. Although now that ya mention it...
Yes cecil, I'm afraid they are merely fancy words, with no substance to back 'em up, which again, highlights what a pretentious pompous windbag you are. You strike me as a shade... what's the word I'm looking for here... narcissistic. I think it sums you up quite well.
No I didn't, I said I didn't find it visually striking or anything especially elevating. Stop being so dishionest cecil, it reeks of deperation.
No, sorry. You gave examples and had your ass handed to you. rewrite history all ya like Cecil.
Again, I found nothing stand out or particularly striking about it. Give me examples of how it is.
No it doesn't tie things up at the end as merely suggesting things and making a half assed attempt at ambiguity does not, I repeat not tie things up cecil. Jeez you're dumb.
And it was you who mentioned spoonfeeding... try to keep up cecil.
I would imagine you're very easily annoyed, actually. You are after all having a hilarious meltdown simply cuz I have the temerity to disagree with your pretentious narcissistic burblings.
Again, your self delusion is hilarious, cecil.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
Nope, providing links and then asserting that it backs up your point when it actually doesn't, again is neither here nor there Cecil.
Well, I don't cecil, particularly Sangre. Sorry. []
And no, yet more blustering attempts to wriggle your way outa what you said, isn't gonna change what you said, nor is it gonna make you look any less stupid.
Except you didn't specifically mention multiple Maniacs or Pink Flamingos, you made a generalised statement on how Kill List was akin to a John Waters flick. Then you were given no less then five examples as to how full of crap you were... then you blustered and backtracked and wriggled and made yourself look really silly.
Dude, man tf up and admit your comparison was jaw droppingly wrong and I might have some modicum of respect for you here.
No cecil, I'm merely pointing out how tired, one note and stale your little routine is. It's been done lots of times before by people more eloquent, intelligent and entertaining than you. That having said, you're still way entertaining. []
Also, I never called you narcissistic. Although now that ya mention it..
No I didn't, I said I didn't find it visually striking or anything especially elevating. Stop being so dishionest cecil, it reeks of deperation.
No, sorry. You gave examples and had your ass handed to you. rewrite history all ya like Cecil.
Again, I found nothing stand out or particularly striking about it. Give me examples of how it is.
No it doesn't tie things up at the end as merely suggesting things and making a half assed attempt at ambiguity does not, I repeat not tie things up cecil. Jeez you're dumb. []
And it was you who mentioned spoonfeeding... try to keep up cecil.
Off hand substanceless claims? You mean like saying Kill List is like El Topo and John Waters' films? Pray do continue.
No it doesn't. Using a flashback structure does not equate to Kill List, which had precious little structure and was little more than a bunch of random ass scenes thrown together.
Ah. So now you revised? This gets better and better...
Yeah but man up and admit you were wrong brah. You'll look far less pathetic.
3rd paragraph yet another whingey ad hominem tinged baw fest, so I won't bother addressing it.
Actually, I just told you that apart from finding it technically competent, I didn't find anything expecially stand out about it. Sorry it didn't register with you cecil.
Yes you did, when you insisted that Kill List was like a John waters film, then got roundly proven wrong, then blustered that that wasn't precisely what you meant.
Uh... you still haven't told me what was particularly special about your link Cecil. You just went off on another whinge.
Hmm. I'm seeing a helluva lot of "could've" here Cecil. As well as "I Think". Oh and there's a "may have" as well.
I thought there was nothing remotely incoherent about Kill List cecil? Yet here you are with your "could've, may have, I think it could possibly have been..." and blah blah blather waffle drone.
Kinda contradicting yourself there brah.
So, care to give me the proof that Kill List is 100% unequivocally correct, in regards to your theory on it?
Or will you man up and admit you're merely speculating here Cecil?
No harm in manning up brah.
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
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Off hand substanceless claims? You mean like saying Kill List is like El Topo and John Waters' films? Pray do continue.
No it doesn't. Using a flashback structure does not equate to Kill List, which had precious little structure and was little more than a bunch of random ass scenes thrown together.
You'll look far less pathetic.
so I won't bother addressing it.
Actually, I just told you that apart from finding it technically competent, I didn't find anything expecially stand out about it. Sorry it didn't register with you cecil.
Yes you did, when you insisted that Kill List was like a John waters film, then got roundly proven wrong, then blustered that that wasn't precisely what you meant.
Uh... you still haven't told me what was particularly special about your link Cecil. You just went off on another whinge.
Hmm. I'm seeing a helluva lot of "could've" here Cecil. As well as "I Think". Oh and there's a "may have" as well.
I thought there was nothing remotely incoherent about Kill List cecil? Yet here you are with your "could've, may have, I think it could possibly have been..." and blah blah blather waffle drone.
Kinda contradicting yourself there brah.
So, care to give me the proof that Kill List is 100% unequivocally correct, in regards to your theory on it?
Or will you man up and admit you're merely speculating here Cecil?
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Motherf-cker, you just got Al Capowned.
Yeah brah!
What now brah!
Cecil brah!
Look at me thinking I'm all cool and hip brah!
F-ck outta here with your hipster loving bullsh!t.
Nah, sorry cecil that was rude. What were you saying again?
Apart from "Al Capwnd".
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
No joke--and all memes put aside--you are honestly one of the stupidest and most poorly educated forum users I've ever come across.
You should have your computer privileges revoked just on the principle of being a f-cking moron.
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nothing wrong in admitting you couldnt understand a movie or its story, happens all the time, except for you it happened in a good movie, which you arent used to watching, so lesson learned.
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"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
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I wonder whats sadder, the shrine you have erected in your bedroom to the one girl who dated you and was creeped out and never talked to you again. Or the sad hang down that she laughed at? I'm dying to know!!
shareUm... okay? *backs away slowly*
"Hey, look at that! She's not crazy, she's being chased by a cheetah!"
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Well done you've seen The Wicker Man and then seen this and realised there's similarities.
Except they're largely superficial. Kill List is far more about characters/family drama then goes Wicker Man.
Are you in sixth form?
Good film.
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this was utter toilet and its embarrassing to watch people try and defend it.
no wonder the British Film Industry is on its knees if it continues to produce drivel like this
"predictable ending"
nostradamus couldn't have predicted that ending.
anyway, i thought it was a great film, his new film SIGHTSEERS has been
getting some great reviews as well.
I can't wait to see 'Sightseers.' I usually hate the combination of comedy and horror--but Wheatley's unique writing patterns makes him an exception to the rule.
His newest film is what I'm most excited for, though. That flick sounds like it's going to be Jodorowsky on f-cking STEROIDS.
Couldn't you boys have just found a pub car park to conduct your pointless 'debate'? I watched Kill List this evening and I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. I'll stew on it for a while, see what I think tomorrow. It'll probably want watching again, but I doubt I'll let you my final opinion. I don't want to get told off - by either of you - for thinking the wrong way.
shareDunno how ppl find the energy for pointless internet arguments like that....its sad, but at the same time I'm impressed by their stamina .
Anyway, I liked Kill List. Nothing wrong with movies that leave stuff open for a bit of interpretation or discussion.
I was not a fan, someone else said it was like the characters stumbled onto another movie set at the end. That's how I felt about it too.
shareSightseers is incredible, absolutely compelling, and hilarious all the same. I commend you for attempting to engage such fools in a debate on a film they both clearly didn't understand and missed the point of. Kill list remains one of my favourite British horror films of the last decade, and has been unfairly under seen. A field in England looks to be unimaginably epic, and I will absolutely be paying to see it.
Yeeash..the fire rises!
kill list is for moronic braindead illiterates. see i can do this form of "debate" too, you blithering retard.
shareListen petal, this may fall upon deaf ears due to your willingness to resort to the very clearest definition of an ad hominem argument (please do look that up to avoid further use), but if you do try and condemn someone as illiterate, at least try to use the correct grammar. You are no doubt are aware of the fact that words that begin a sentence tend to possess a capital letter, but I'm afraid due to the fact that you accuse 'Kill List' of being for illiterates, your misuse of the correct grammar has proved fatal to your cause.
And one last thing, calling people 'blithering retards' is not debating, it is insulting; and not just to me, but to yourself also. Good day.
you're an abject *beep* moron if you think anything from wheatley is worth watching. and it's not writing "patterns", it's writing style, you illiterate *beep*
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shareWould be able to take your opinion more seriously if you hadn't mashed out a spelling mistake in your title, moron.
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