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Felt no sympathy after Pierce Brosnan's reveal


After Pierce Brosnan's character reveal for the reason of the revolution I felt no sympathy for the Americans. I know it's not their fault and they had no idea. But the reason why I have no sympathy is that they should have known.

It's truth that USA does that to foreign countries. In 2009 they tried to eliminate my country's prime minister. That's official Intelligence Agency's reports. Google "Pythia 1 plan". After they failed they forced him to step down to put another puppet up. And you know what happened next. Memorandum and Austerity. Surrendering any National Sovereignty. I wish we could do an uprising like that also and burn all the politicians and diplomats at the stake. No that unnecessarily brutal to tourists and kids though... But that was another Hollywood fantasy how to portray savage foreigners versus loving and civilized Americans.

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yeah, no kidding

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Why you say so? Because I want the ones responsible for humiliation and pauperisation of the people and my country brought to justice? Does your country offer a better alternative to your traitors? I already said tourists and especially kids have nothing to do with it. That was hollywood fantasy.

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Greece is a basket case because the Greek people accepted and begged for a corrupt socialist country that was guaranteed to fail... want to blame someone, look in the mirror.

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I am too young to have voted any of those Governments. So no mirror for me. For the older ones, they were tricked by puppet politicians placed there strategically. It was the plan to make the Greeks dependent on money and their Porches etc. (Fortunately or Unfortunately I didn't live any of those luxuries, I even had to eat bread and olives for a month)

It's even in the movie. Lending and lending and lending led to big debt on purpose and now they own us.

Same thing with Americans really but instead of only luxuries they feed them hardcore nationalism also. That's why they think they're so badass they are entitled to have slave nations.

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Obviously you've grown up with a hatred for the United States, which has become a bias and that's the reason you're opinion needs to be dismissed. The things you believe are only "facts" in your own mind. I'm sure there's no indisputable proof, of anything you're saying.

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You really think America doesn't stick its nose in other coyntries business for its own gain? Pythia 1 plan is prooven real.

Btw I actually want to move to United States also. You know what they say. If you can't beat them, join them.

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Don't bother with those idiots... the vast majority of posters on this website are brainwashed infantile children with their fingers in their ears, eyes shut tight, and screaming incoherently.

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No, its not that we dont believe that as a country we stick our nose where it doesnt belong. The issue people have with you is that you dehumanized the "americans" by believing that they deserve the fate of being brutally raped and/or murdered while on holiday. We know our government meddles in the affairs of other countries but we usually find out about it after it has already happened. We also know corporations, which is not limited to Amercian corporations, ruin countries.

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Isn't Greece refusing to accept any Syrian refugees? Didn't Greece commit a multitude of war crimes in Turkey? Your country is hardly blameless when it comes to sticking their nose in other countries business. Do us all a favor, stay in your desperate, third world slum. We have enough beggars in the US and do not need another.

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Your username betrays you as a right-wing clown who can't be taken seriously.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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Really? He literally sounds NOTHING like te thugs in e movie.



Oh what a day. What a lovely day!

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I don't see the OP raping or murdering anyone, so you're dead wrong. The OP is right. Just look at the war in Iraq based on lies. That is what created ISIL, which in turn creating the flood of refugees out of the region. And how does America respond? By spurning them instead of accepting the natural consequences of a previous President's idiotic decision-making.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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What was based on lies that Iraq had history of fighting wars to take land. The idea that Iraq was going for the bomb. The whole world believed Iraq had the bomb because Saddam said he did and he wouldn't let the inspectors in. Or the fact that ton's of yellow cake Uranium was taken out of Iraq and into Canada. But you're right the previous president's reason for going into Iraq was all based on lies. Saddam was a great tyrant who gassed his own people and fought two wars to take neighboring lands. Who was also close to getting the bomb you're right he should have been able to stay in power.

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Saddam never said he had a bomb. He even challenged George W. Bush to a debate in early 2003 over his being a "threat." He even tried to negotiate an eleventh hour surrender. He had expired canisters of nerve and sarin gas, many of which were provided from America. He actually gassed his own people in 1987, but no one in America cared. No one in America cared about that in 1991 during Operation: Desert Storm, because many Americans were jaded about the war's results which still left Saddam in power.

But fast forward to 2003 when Americans are pissed over 9/11 and just want to see a Muslim country get bombed while Bush's oil buddies are looking to get rich, and suddenly everyone thinks that attacking Iraq is a good idea. The weapons inspectors were in Iraq right up until a month before the war. Saddam tried throwing them out in 1998 until Bill Clinton ordered missiles launched at Iraq in retaliation. But in 2003, the weapons inspectors were complaining about not being given enough time for them to finish their job. They even said that they found no evidence of Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction. Don't you think that if they ever had any weapons of mass destruction, they would have used them when their country was being invaded?

And FYI, your story about yellow cake uranium being taken into Canada (lol) is an absolute lie.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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I agree with you 100%

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I agree with the uprising, but not killing the innocent. They were murdering their own for no reason. At that point it was just to show power not revolution

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US does tend to do that on behalf of the banks.Nobody likes US foreign policy. It was FSB that disrupted that assassination plot.









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I hope US embassy scours these boards, and I hope that scum like you(including your kids, wife etc) will never be allowed to enter US or Canada.

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You say it like people actually want to travel to the US... Who wants to visit a place filled with rednecks, ignorant and stupid people like you. I hope Americans gets on the *beep* list of every country there is, because people like you shouldent be allowed to travel, or open your mouths for that matter.

"In god we trust" "God bless America" Whats up with that? Your country is probably the only in the world who uses GOD as if you invented him. US and Israel are made for eachother. And the most funny thing about that is that it's all a sham, god never existed. Cheers. God bless you.

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You say it like people actually want to travel to the US...
They don't want to just travel here, they want to live here, that's why we're being overrun by foreigners. Do some research on what percentage of any nationality lives in the U.S. and you'll realize how stupid your comment is. Here's a link to just the dispersion of Armenian's across the globe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_diaspora


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You're getting overrun by foreigners? What do yoh think america is? It's an immigrant country like Canada and Australia. Not a racial nation like for example India or Russia. Your nation consists of immigrants only. You're not even 250 year old. That's why I cringe when I see Americans against immigration. How do you think you got there? Your not too far ancestors were immigrants.

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You're getting overrun by foreigners? What do yoh think america is? It's an immigrant country like Canada and Australia. Not a racial nation like for example India or Russia. Your nation consists of immigrants only. You're not even 250 year old. That's why I cringe when I see Americans against immigration. How do you think you got there? Your not too far ancestors were immigrants.
Our forefathers founded this nation! Are you saying it should always have an open door policy? Upon it's founding, are you saying our government should've never had the right to set policies on immigration? You're ridiculous! Is it hard for you to comprehend that upon our founding, the founders became Americans? They formed a government and became as legitimate as any nation.

That's like saying, when you buy a new home, "don't lock the doors, because it's really anybodies home who wants to squat here, since we only just bought it. If you go back far enough, no land was ever (always) occupied by any particular race of people.

This is why foreigners, shouldn't have an opinion about US issues, because you're an idiot! I don't know where you're from or what your countries issues are, but I don't watch from afar and cast judgement or form opinions based on how their citizens feel about their issues. BECAUSE, IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, AS OURS IS NONE OF YOURS!

My signature needs to go back to "I See Stupid People!" because I'm confronted by stupid people daily, on IMDb.


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Your forefathers were murdering invaders who raped and pillaged. Most were deported criminals or religious fanatics who had to leave the UK. The US is not your country and you are merely a descendant of immigrants.

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You are merely a stupid ass!

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You are an idiot Rpeublitard troll.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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Ummm I think you're forgetting that it was founded by IMMIGRANTS responsible for the GENOCIDE of the NATIVE inhabitants.

So by your logic it would be ok for say the Mexicans to invade and slaughter you all so long as they founded a new country afterwards. ??

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Ummm I think you're forgetting that it was founded by IMMIGRANTS responsible for the GENOCIDE of the NATIVE inhabitants.
I'm not forgetting anything. As I've said, England was only too happy to have us here, so they could milk this land of it's goods. All we did was rebel and found a nation of our own.

It's disgusting to have you and that shivamoon fag heaping criticism on the US when the actual British army was involved in killing Indians. Stop the revising history where all condemnation falls on the US and portray yourselves as so innocent. As if we invented war and slavery.

So by your logic it would be ok for say the Mexicans to invade and slaughter you all so long as they founded a new country afterwards. ??
As if LOL

And there was no nation here when the United States was founded


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It's disgusting to have you and that shivamoon fag heaping criticism on the US when the actual British army was involved in killing Indians. Stop the revising history where all condemnation falls on the US and portray yourselves as so innocent. As if we invented war and slavery.


The US was a colony created by the British and the US just decided to continue with the way of the empire after independence. Sorry you are disgusted with valid criticism, the British were in no way innocent..in fact no country today is innocent of these past evils.. HOWEVER you were specifically talking about the USA and not any other country, you cannot just cry fowl and blame someone else for your country's continued misbehaviour after independence.

And there was no nation here when the United States was founded


There were many Indian nations before the British settled the american continent. After independence you continued to slaughter the native nations and were one of the last countries in the WORLD to abolish slavery and segregation. There are many other ex-British colonies, some much younger than the USA even, that did a far better job once they attained independence.

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My point stands... no one has clean hands. Let he without sin cast the first stone.

There were no valid recognized nations here. You had to know what I meant. And even those Indian nations warred against each other. No one's innocent. And the Indians committed atrocities against us too.

See this is why this is not a productive conversation. Once the ball was rolling, each side kept retaliating. You and I weren't there, so we have only the word of others to go on.

Being American I get sick of all the criticism from others when their hands aren't clean either and it's not their business, anyway. You can scour every post I've ever written on here and you won't find one criticism of another countries policies or historical acts. The reason why is that I don't have intimate knowledge of the events in question, I only have the word of others. And because, who am I to pass judgement? Humility is a virtue...


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As the other guy said, your country consists of "foreigners", different nationalities, I guess I was only speaking on behalf of my country. PS: The link you gave me only stated facts about "Armenians"

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As the other guy said, your country consists of "foreigners", different nationalities
The founders of the United States are not foreigners! They were predominantly British and French, and became American's upon our birth as a nation. That's totally different than immigrants that continue to pour in here. When you see statistics like the number of Armenians here, those are immigrants, that have come here since the founding of this country.

And by the way, I plainly stated that I was giving you a link to the Armenian dispersion and that you could look the rest up on your own. I was familiar with the Armenian diaspora, because I had recently stumbled upon it.


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The founders of the United States are not foreigners! They were predominantly British and French, and became American's upon our birth as a nation.


Yeah sure and they even did it by wiping completely the natives nation who were the real inhabitants of the land. So since they came on a land where other people lived they were foreigners. But they called the natives savages so they could kill them and that's it ! Well done job guys and a good training for the years to come. And that's how thereafter you got the land of the slave and the home of the gun with god on their many sides, amen brother and salute the flag or I'll shoot you for the love of god

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Yea sure, name a country that has never switched ownership. You're trying to condemn the US and Europeans, when all humans are guilty of the same things. We didn't invent slavery and we didn't invent conquering lands.

Wonder where you're from, that you feel so superior, that you can sit in judgement?


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I guess you believe you invented freedom and democracy though, didn't you..

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I guess you believe you invented freedom and democracy though, didn't you..
How can you say that... of course we did 😜

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You stole 'your nation' from the indigenous people so you are immigrants. I'm English and we threw your ancestors out for being criminals or religious fanatics.

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If you're English then you're even nore retarded than I thought, because we are your countrymen and if English schools teach the garbage your spewing then they are liars! England, France and Spain came here to reap the goods and ship them home. Your ancestors are as guilty as anyone for warring with the Indians. Grow up and realize how stupid you are!

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How can they be your countrymen when you claim to be to be an american "native".. you can't have your cake and eat it too..

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How can they be your countrymen when you claim to be to be an american "native".. you can't have your cake and eat it too..
In the sense that we were, until we declared our independence. Shivamoonfreak is British and he's acting like his country had nothing to do with what he's trying to blame us for. I was trying to make the troll realize, that what he's blaming us for was done by England as much as anyone.

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Just because "someone else" (ie. the British) had done these bad things that is no reason nor excuse for the USA to continue doing the same bad things long after independence and that "someone else" had stopped doing those bad things.

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Sidewindr, you need a new bra and panties for Christmas.

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What a moron, here's some info for your dumb*BEEP*!

The Seven Years War, a global conflict known in America as the French and Indian War, officially begins when England declares war on France. However, fighting and skirmishes between England and France had been going on in North America for years.

In the early 1750s, French expansion into the Ohio River valley repeatedly brought France into armed conflict with the British colonies. In 1756–the first official year of fighting in the Seven Years War–the British suffered a series of defeats against the French and their broad network of Native American alliances. However, in 1757, British Prime Minister William Pitt (the older) recognized the potential of imperial expansion that would come out of victory against the French and borrowed heavily to fund an expanded war effort. Pitt financed Prussia’s struggle against France and her allies in Europe and reimbursed the colonies for the raising of armies in North America.

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Britain is over run by foreigners too.

But I just want to say, I have never been to the US - but I want to go so bad!
So many wonderful places to visit and so much good food to try!
Las Vegas, New York, Florida and Chicago are places I'm desperate to visit!

I don't understand why the US gets so much hate.
There are countries that are much worse.
But that's just my feelings on it.




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It's not your country, you are invaders; the US belongs to Native Americans and you should go home - your ancestors were deported criminals or religious fanatics.

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You're an idiot! The US was not founded by deported criminals, That's Australia! Persecuted Christians aren't religious fanatics either. You're even more of a dumbass for differentiating the history of the US from other countries who have had their own violent pasts. What country are you from, to even think you have the right to open your big ignorant mouth about the USA?

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You are ill informed, Australia started receiving convicts after Britain was unable to send them to America.

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You are ill informed, Australia started receiving convicts after Britain was unable to send them to America.
Yes, until now I was unaware that England sent convicts to America. I just read about "penal transportation."

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69.6 Million visitors sin 2013. Weird how soooo many people want to visit the greatest place in the world.
Stop being jealous and talking about weird god things on a movie message board.
And Im not saying we invented god but I think it's mostly agreed upon throughout the world that he/she just happens to be American.

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Your one of reasons why so many people hate the US. Who agrees that god happened to be american ? rofl, you must be so ignorant that your head got stuck in your mom's ass when you were born. Im so glad your there and im here, in an actual free country, you guys think your free, its so hilarious. I guess that's whats called ignorant.

Good luck next time you get stopped by the cops ;-)

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You say it like people actually want to travel to the US...


As someone said before, we have a huge illegal alien problem. So that statement is false.

Who wants to visit a place filled with rednecks, ignorant and stupid people like you.


The irony in this sentence is too high. You see, The united states is a large country. One state is bigger than most european countries. So we have lots of different kinds of people, including, rednecks, ignorant people, and stupid people. But as you proved by your comment so do other countries. If you think for one minute your country does not have ignorant and stupid people. You yourself are ignorant and stupid.

I hope Americans gets on the *beep* list of every country there is, because people like you shouldent be allowed to travel, or open your mouths for that matter.


As much as many people would love this. No one ever wants to see the social and economical points of having the US fall as the world power. The US will stay in power for the foreseeable future as it is costly and highly unlikely someone would successfully invade us and if our economy collapsed to the point of destroying our culture, the world would spin into a bigger depression than seen in the 1920s.

"In god we trust" "God bless America" Whats up with that? Your country is probably the only in the world who uses GOD as if you invented him


Nope, we are not the only country and not even the first country to do so. There is nothing wrong with getting behind our God.

US and Israel are made for eachother.


Why? because we are both deity centric countries. In that case we should be friends with muslim countries because they are tightly bound by their god and his laws. But sadly the US isn't like it used to be God wise.

And the most funny thing about that is that it's all a sham, god never existed. Cheers. God bless you.


Feel free to believe whatever you want, but don't mock others for their beliefs. It is people like you who gives atheists a bad name. I would like to know why you think its a sham and how he doesn't exist. In the mean time I will tell you why God exists.

Let us start with the big bang theory, it is physically and statistically improbable that the big bang happened by accident and formed everything so perfectly. Its funny how things like math and the laws of physics work perfectly and all fit together because of an "accident". Second, Jesus, historians, even atheists, have agreed that he was an actual person. With that being said it is pretty likely that the events of the bible telling Jesus' story are true. From a moral standpoint, without a god there would be no point in being good. Since you are an atheist, why not commit crimes? Why not cheat your way through life. Also, there is a thing called Paschal's wager. It pretty much says that there are two options each with two different outcomes:

1. God exists:
for those who people who believe die and go to heaven
those who don't believe die and go to hell.

2. God doesn't exists
for those who believe die and nothing happens
for those who don't believe die and nothing happens.

Which brings me to my next point. The meaning of life is nonexistent without a god. What would be the point of life. not going anywhere after you die is such a bleak outlook on life. why not just kill yourself and end all the pain and suffering. There is no point to living anyways. so why go through life as *beep* as it is

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Why? because we are both deity centric countries. In that case we should be friends with muslim countries because they are tightly bound by their god and his laws. But sadly the US isn't like it used to be God wise.


There should ALWAYS repeat ALWAYS be separation between Church and State .. without this separation there can be no democracy, liberty or freedom.

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Why act like that. You are live representation of the average american that has buried his head in the sand. I have nothing against you and the average american. They think they're doing good but please stop being so damn gullible. You are enslaving other nations directly and indirectly. Can't you see that?

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Why act like that. You are live representation of the average american that has buried his head in the sand. I have nothing against you and the average american. They think they're doing good but please stop being so damn gullible. You are enslaving other nations directly and indirectly. Can't you see that?


You did not answering to any of my responses or questions. Because you simply do not have an answer and are just so convinced you are right that you won't hear my reasonings.

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Lol at the butthurt American redneck that can't take criticism of US foreign policy. Don't worry friend, no one wants to go to the police state called the USA any more.

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If you don't like it stop watching our movies.. it's pretty simple. "Hollywood fantasy"-bro you're the one spending your money to watch it. So stop watching our movies, listening to our music, buying our products, and you won't have so much hostility toward something you are completely ignorant about.

ig·no·rant
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adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

It sounds like your country might be "developing" so just trying to help you out.

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Exchanging of culture is nothing wrong. You have a huge entertainment. Anyway an american calling me ignorant is like calling someone ignorant for saying 1+1=2 and not 1+1=3. Yes you sound like that.

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Shut up you Kariverson. You belong to the laziest country in Europe where people could retire at 45 and work 6 daily hours, piggybacking on the real working europeans, and have no better notion of reality than to blame whatever empire your eight grade teacher told you was the cause for your contry being what it is? Well, good luck with your mentality. You will remain stuck in the 3rd world forever. Take your frustrations and complexes elsewhere, not a movie forum.

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Is that what they told you? Retire at 45 and 6 hours of work? How about do some research and find out the truth instead of spitting lies you were told, ignorant gold spoon fed "working European". Cause I work 8 hours for 400 and my father at 55 works 14-16 hours.

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Another "Hollywood fantasy", eh? So an angry mob chasing, raping, torturing and murdering foreigners in a devastated country is nothing but fiction? Good to know ;)

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Wow, what a really disturbed individual. I think you're wrong in most of your arguments in this topic but that's unjustifiable.

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