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US Embassy Taken Down?

posted 9 years ago by RoadSideAssistance
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LOL what?

How does a mob with some bricks, batons, and a couple six shooters (and one rifle we see) take down the US Embassy (let alone many)? A mob of what appeared to be a few hundred wiped out the US Embassy with M16s, gas, grenades, artillery, etc? Even if they did the US response time would be so quick of neighboring military bases...

Just a huge plot hole. Would've been better to leave the Embassy out of it all together.

For you Europeans (because I know the response is already conjured up and people from this area just bitch about everything someone from the US posts), no I'm not implying the US can just demolish everything or the US is so superior with their military presence etc. etc. Just is what it is.... most embassy's would wipe out a general mob like this and US does have very strong military presence in Countries with political unrest that would allow this to happen.

[–] dreez-vector 9 years ago

I didn't like this movie at all and this was one of the reasons...

There is no way in hell a mob like that would get away with killing
foreign personal and visitors... Almost every country has some kind
of special force that can be inserted around the world in 6 hours.

So not seing any Navyseals securing the embassy or ANY security whatsoever,
is just a laughable plothole.

I know that an Embassy is considered national soil of the country which
owns the embassy, so if you tread on the grass of the US embassy, or any embassy,
you could just as well be in their country killing them.

Apart from that, this entire movie is a big spokesman for NOT having kids,
because they're useless, get ppl into situations and don't know when to STFU.

[–] ipacac22 9 years ago

An entire city armed with AKs, tanks, a helicopter and various other melee weapons would have zero problems taking down an embassy filled with a small security detail and foreign dignitaries as shown in this film. It happens in real life. Benghazi is a recent example. An embassy is not a military base. They don't have the offensive capabilities to do what you're suggesting.

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[–] o07craft 9 years ago

I agree that the mob would easily take down the embassy, but I seriously thought he would take his family and hide inside, as support would show up shortly. The US isnt going to lose an embassy and let it go. They are gonna be there within hours, even if just to try and recover their files and dead solders.

[–] mizhou-99-68324 9 years ago

if the building wasn't set on fire by a huge explosion and there weren't rebels running around near it looking specifically for him, yes i agree he should.

[–] Darth_SickOfDis 9 years ago

Guess your forgot about all those POWs and spies killed working for the USA.

Or hey how about how the USA let most of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya currently be run by terrorists destroying everything slaughtering Christians and plotting terror attacks.

You want to go back older to the 'glory days'--how about Iran overrunning the embassy with students, no tanks or choppers.

[–] clickbait 8 years ago

o07craft...maybe his idea was to take his family inside the embassy and hide but when he was going inside to check it out a group of rebells came out and spotted him and the chase was on again...when in all that chaos would he have taken his family inside the building?

~If the realistic details fails, the movie fails~

[–] dg-benz 9 years ago

Uh, except what was attacked in Benghazi wasn't an embassy, just a compound or sort of safe house. Therefore, your whole post is invalidated.

[–] timlin-4 9 years ago

This movie takes place during the presidency of Hillary Clinton

[–] jonnypenn84 9 years ago

That's not a plothole. Just because something may feel unrealistic or implausible doesn't make it a plothole.

[–] sarizonana 9 years ago

Well the film Argo was sort of a Biopic and we saw how the Iranians took the American Embassy with no trouble, so I wasn't surprised the bad guys in this film did so too.

I made a post no one answered but this film was a like Argo and The Impossible put together to make the most suspenseful and tense flick you could imagine.

I liked the movie very much and had me on the edge of my seat but still reminded me a lot to The Impossible and Argo

[–] Sabre-El 9 years ago

Exactly. I've seen Embassies in Asian countries. They look well guarded to the casual man, just because they are more guarded than normal places. But that's just it. It doesn't seem too difficult for a mob to run through

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[–] TequilaMockingbird5150 8 years ago

Probably not to difficult to bribe. Considering that tgey had at least one tank and a helicopter that would not even be necessary.

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[–] joe_538 9 years ago

In Argo, they said to use tear gas as a last resort. It's no wonder they lost a place they weren't trying very hard to defend.

[–] rogun-35750 8 years ago

Seriously, it's happened several times and the fact that so many Americans don't know this is somewhat sad.

[–] rck-7 9 years ago

Artillery? lmao

No embassy in the world has howitzers deployed for protection. None. It just isn't feasible.

[–] JoeHud 9 years ago

Why not imply the U.S. can demolish everything and is so superior in their military? I mean, we can, and are, without a doubt.

[–] JapanGaijin 9 years ago

From the U.S. Embassies I have seen throughout Asia, I have yet to see U.S. military working on site. Usually it is the country's police force guarding in front and the few blocks surrounding it. The inside are just a bunch of Joe Schmo office workers.

[–] lasn 9 years ago

U.S. can not demolish "everything", are you high? You need to leave your mothers basement.

[–] skylab00 9 years ago

that is pretty much how tehran was taken down. have you been to the embassy in Iran?

[–] lysergic-acid 9 years ago

Not to mention Benghazi (which, after numerous probes and 3 years of investigations, even the GOP members have admitted that there was nothing that could have been done at the time to affect the outcome) as well as the recent evacuation of the U.S. Embassy in Yemen.

When a country is burning to the ground and there are thousands of hostile fighters, a small contingent of soldiers and embassy personnel are not going to hold out indefinitely, which is why it makes sense to evacuate before it ever comes to that. If you don't, then everyone in the embassy is at risk.

[–] clickbait 8 years ago

lysergic-acid....except what was attacked in Benghazi wasn't an embassy, just a compound or sort of safe house. Therefore, your whole post is invalidated.

~If the realistic details fails, the movie fails~

[–] Tigerlilly9 8 years ago

I liked this movie for its action sequences and really did have me on the edge of my seat. However, the embassy thing did bother me. As did the biggest piece of the missing puzzle...
There is no way a "coup" would just pop up out of complete nowhere. I cannot believe that the US Government wouldn't have had a notion that something was brewing, and released travel warnings. Cardiff would have had security for their employees and a secure airport transfer...and probably put up the family in a more corporate housing situation. From the get-go, I had problems with the set-up of the film. Once I could let that go, then I could enjoy the film.