jncarriere said:
Actually that would be Regina
It is physically impossible for Regina to initiate contact with Emmett for any human being other than herself. Emmett did not even ask Regina to pass along any messages to Bay. There was nothing, nada, from Emmett. He initiated zero contact with Bay.
Regina did inform Bay as to what had happened to Emmett back home, in Kansas City, but Regina did that of her own accord. It was 100% Bay's decision what to do with that information, and Bay did it. Bay took that information that Regina gave to her, and she sought out Emmett right away. Bay initiated the contact with Emmett.
and I dated a guy and we are still really,really good friends and have been for 12 years since our breakup. Since Bay and Emmett seemed to resolve everything and maintain their friendship,I don't find it odd that she would return. Also why wouldn't she return home,her sister and her boyfriend returned home.
I don't understand why any of them would return home.
If Travis truly sees himself as Emmett's brother, then yes, a family member could choose to return home for a relative's drug overdose. I go back and forth in my mind as to whether Travis really feels as though Emmett is his brother. We have not been shown enough of their relationship for me to believe that he does, so I cannot understand why Travis would return home early, other than that his girlfriend wanted to do so. Even when Travis discovered that Emmett had overdosed, Travis still resented that they had come home early, so I do not think Travis sees Emmett as a brother.
Would you really travel home from China, two months early, because an ex-boyfriend was having a mental health crisis?
I wouldn't. You are a better friend than me, if you would.
They were not there to live permanently,KC is Bays home to and where her parents live. Emmett is the one who is trying initiate another reconciliation,I should have been clearer.
Now that Bay is home again, I do believe Emmett will chase her and try to initiate another reconciliation. But what makes you think that Emmett has done anything like that in the Season 5 premiere?
Do you think that Emmett overdosed on pills in the hope of bringing Bay home?
I do not think Emmett did anything like that, not even subconsciously. Emmett did not overdose on pills to initiate contact with Bay. Do you really believe that he did? If Emmett did do something that manipulative, then his character is not suitable for anyone to date.
Bay made sure she didn't have an aneurysm before she said she would go with him. I'm fairly certain she wouldn't have kept it a secret from him or her parents.
Bay found out that she has a genetic predisposition and one could occur at any time. She kept it secret from both Emmett and her parents. John and Kathryn only discovered the truth by accident. When they did find out about it, they told Bay that her decision not to tell them proved she was too immature to move in with Emmett.
If Bay ever intended to move to California to be with Emmett (and I do not believe she did ever intend to do so, but if she did,) then Bay owed Emmett the truth about something so serious looming over her health. If Bay had a health crisis related to the aneurysm in LA, and Emmett was not aware, it would have unnecessarily risked her life and been tremendously unfair to her romantic partner.
You speak as though Bay has no rights and should be an open book and that isn't fair. Whether you dislike her or not we have a right to privacy.
I love Bay, and I agree she has a right to privacy. But in this situation, it is not fair to keep it a secret from the person who is taking on the responsibility of being your partner.
Isn't that exactly what Emmett was doing,when he wanted Bay to help him find them an apartment. Emmett wasn't being a partner when he kept refusing to talk to Bay about what happened. Which she needed to do before they could move on.
When Emmett wanted Bay to help them find an apartment, he was not issuing any ultimatums. Emmett even asked Bay if she had changed her mind and no longer wanted to move in with him. He was fine with that, either way. Emmett was not being adamant or making any demands. He was open to respecting Bay's comfort level as to what kind of intimacy she was ready (or not ready) to share.
Bay needed to respond that way, too, for Emmett, when he felt unsure about their plans to live together.
As for refusing to talk to Bay about what happened, Emmett did not want the details of Bay's night with Tank. I do not blame Emmett for that. Emmett did not force Bay to listen to the details of the night he had sex with Simone. Why would Bay make Emmett listen to the details of the night she had sex with Tank? It was really unfair of Bay.
I don't remember that particular scene. I do remember Emmett telling Daphne they (he and Bay) had plans she,had a life we were excited about,and you ruined it. So no I don't agree that he went because he felt guilty or Bay forced him into it. You're making Emmett sound weak and unable to make his own decisions. Bay told him her idea and yes he liked it. I absolutely hate that Bay,took the fall for Daphne without discussing it with Emmett first. That is very Bay and she's impulsive
Emmett was weak. Emmett is weak.
That's the first thing Bay said to Daphne, after Emmett broke up with her on the beach. "He is weak, and he is a liar."
Emmett has never been a character with inner strength. He talks a good game. Emmett says things like, "I don't cheat," "I'll wait, until I figure out how I can," "I don't give up," "I will always come find you," etc., but Emmett does not have the inner strength to make any of those statements true. Emmett has always been an emotionally weak character. It is why Emmett cheated on Bay in the first place.
After Emmett cheated, he became even weaker than he was in the beginning. Emmett felt such guilt over his mistake that he let Bay get away with anything. It's like Bay told Daphne at the police station, when Daphne told Bay that Emmett would not go to LA without her. Bay told Daphne, "I'll make him," and she did.
Emmett's feelings had already changed or Bay would not have had to give him one. Bay didn't just care about herself,it's not even in her character. Which is why she gets herself in trouble. Bay is a fixer,but not everything can be fixed.
Yes, I agree with you that Emmett's feelings had already changed, and that is exactly why Bay should not have given him an ultimatum.
If someone no longer feels in love with you, then it is the WORST time to demand that person allow you to move in with them. It is as though you are saying, "I don't care how you feel or what you want. Either I get my way on this issue, or I am withdrawing my love for you."
That was not the way for Bay to convince Emmett that her feelings for him are sincere. Instead, Bay only proved what Emmett already suspected. She didn't care a thing about him or his feelings. She only cared about herself.
I remember the beach scene,but not that it was a final exam. I do believe they should have broken up.To much had happened by then and they needed time to get past everything that happened.
Well, it was his final exam for the semester, and he was trying so hard to do well in this school where no one spoke his language. It was unfair of Bay to undermine Emmett by pitching a fit in front of his peers.
I agree that Bay and Emmett needed to break up. I was so glad that Emmett finally put his foot down and did not cave into her ultimatum.
I don't recall telling you I, believed Bay was raped. I stay neutral with that SL,but even if you do believe that,I suppose you shouldn't fault one, for doing, what the other did first.
I disagree. If I did something horrible to someone and that person taught me the error of my ways and forgave me, but then, he or she turned around and did the same thing to me, then that would be the height of disrespect.
It is like the dialogue that Emmett wrote for his doppelganger to say in the script for his movie short
He and She: "You did this to get back at me. You never forgave me for cheating on you with Sierra."
Sierra was a code name for Simone. Emmett truly wonders if Bay ever forgave him, and she cheated on him with her ex-boyfriend for revenge. That's sad.
Yes they did,but I still love Emmett anyway. I always blame the writers,not the characters.
I still love Emmett, too. I have never loved a character the way that I loved him in Season 1. It's a shame the writers had to annihilate all of that. I don't understand why the writers had to be so extreme.
Thanks, and I still believe they can have an amazing love story.Forgiveness is key.
I find myself hoping that Bay and Emmett will not reconcile. It doesn't feel right. I wish that it did, because I loved them so in the beginning, and really, I even loved them on the beach in LA, when they went their separate ways. But ever since Emmett began apologizing to Bay, first, for being her "idiot" boyfriend when he talked to her at the art gallery, and now, for "letting her go" when he talked to her in the Season 5 premiere at Carlton, their relationship feels so insincere and icky to me.
I don't like Bay and Emmett together now. I don't think the writers want me to like them together now.
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jncarriere
8 years ago
It is physically impossible for Regina to initiate contact with Emmett
That's not what I meant. I meant that she called Bay and with the reaction from Melody,likely at her request.
I don't understand why any of them would return home.
They are not acting like brothers right now. Daphne and Regina and Melody and Emmett are like a family and very close. Why would you not return for someone you love and care about.
Would you really travel home from China, two months early, because an ex-boyfriend was having a mental health crisis?
In my situation with my ex,yes I would. We were friends for years before we dated and our breakup was mutual and amicable. We never argued or fought,but we just didn't mesh as partners.
Emmett was weak. Emmett is weak.
Bay was angry when she said that and hurting. People don't always mean what they say,when they are upset. I don't completely agree with you that Emmett is weak. He stood up to his dad and Melody and Travis and Daphne. When it's someone you love you tend to give in. Emmett did that with Bay,but she doesn't give in enough. They are really young and still learning how to be a good romantic partner.
If someone no longer feels in love with you, then it is the WORST time to demand that person allow you to move in with them.
You seem to have double standards and you lay the blame solely on one person which is Bay. I don't agree with you about the beach scene. Emmett had absolutely no right to make a film about Bay and lie to her about it and tell her it's a love story.
Bay didn't go to LA to try and do anything other than work things out. Bay didn't initially interfere.She said she would sit and wait and then later she left and then returned.When she found out what the film was about of course she was upset and she had every right to be.
Emmett even felt guilty about making it,because it was wrong. However he's the one who was selfish and didn't care about her feelings or he would have been upfront. He thought making the film and being with Skye and her connections would propel his career,but it didn't. In Mexico he admitted to waiting to see if it would work out with Skye first.
Emmett's reasons for the breakup are BS,just from what he admitted in Mexico.
I disagree. If I did something horrible to someone and that person taught me the error of my ways and forgave me, but then, he or she turned around and did the same thing to me, then that would be the height of disrespect.
Like I said,you believe she cheated and I don't and Bay tried over and over to explain her side. So let's please drop that SL from our discussion.
I still love Emmett, too. I have never loved a character the way that I loved him in Season 1. It's a shame the writers had to annihilate all of that. I don't understand why the writers had to be so extreme.
The ratings dropped dramatically after 4x10. Bemmett fans stopped watching so a really bad move. I think the show would have survived fine with Bay in CA. It would have been a way better SL.
I find myself hoping that Bay and Emmett will not reconcile.
Sadly,the necessary growth they both need to have a successful relationship,can't happen in 10 episodes. I think they are to young really,and need to have fun and enjoy life first.. I'm selfish,I want them together because ,those two are my favorites together or apart.
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
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