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They're doing campus "racism", cultural appropriation, microaggression


This is show is nonstop liberal retardation now. First the "rape" (i.e. drunk consensual sex) storyline and now this.

This kind of crap is why Trump won. Keep going, you'll win the dummy a second term.

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Yup. I completely agree.

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Excuse me no. I am a liberal and this annoys me too.

I think back to that movie the wayans did when they pretended to be white chicks like the hilton sisters and everyone thought it was sooooo hilarious. I had no problem with it, it just annoys me that he dresses like this and its an uproar? So its offensive for a white person to pretend to be black for a party but, a white person cant be a black rapper? This is annoying.

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Yes, what if Iris had decided to dress up as Katy Perry or Lady Gaga? Would social media have exploded into an outrage?

And I have to admit I would have had no idea that Iris was dressed as Billie Holiday. She looked more like she was going to prom in the 1950s.

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It's all in your head. I'm not annoyed. What's a liberal?

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do you people really not get the historical context of blackface as a part of the minstrelsy tradition and the degradation of black people in the us? whiteface is not a thing because white people have never been systemically discriminated against or oppressed in the us.

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^ I get that but he didn't even paint his face black though.

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And the storyline is stupid because he isn't. However, juxtaposing it against White Chicks which was about whiteface is not the same thing.

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We get the historical contest of blackface and clearly it's wrong and bad... but he wasn't in blackface. At all. That's the point.

So where's the line?

Is it really offensive for someone to dress as an actual person/entertainer and copy their exact style? But only if they're black?

I am not trying to be ignorant, and I am more than willing to be enlightened to how this scenario is seen as wrong.

I was/still am someone that thought the Caitlin Jenner Halloween costume (after her transition) a few years back was in very poor taste, despite completely disliking Jenner herself (and still feels she misrepresents the trans community badly.)

I just don't see how when you have a specific rap artist with a very specific style, which they market and cater to - is suddenly racially insensitive or insulting? As I said in another thread, if he were literally a Minstrel or generic 'Rasta' caricature or used blackface / tanner in any way, I could understand the points...

But does Wearing a big hat, big glasses, dreaded wig, jewelry, bling and grill just as that specific rap artist does and is known for - really make it a blackface costume?

Then the question remains, is it insulting then to copy ANY persons style, because it could be seen as 'making fun' of them? Like Bjork, LadyGaGa or Madonna?


Riddle wrapped inside an enigma, wrapped inside a taco.

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yeah i'm aware of that. i wasn't talking specifically about mingo. i was responding to that person who was complaining about the wayans brothers playing white women in that movie. she acted like she didn't understand why that wasn't considered as offensive as blackface.

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All I saw was that he dressed like a singer he likes (Lil Wayne.) Are people saying that a white person can only like and dress like white singers? What ever happened to the saying that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

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miley dressed as lil kim a few years back and i don't recall people having a problem with it.

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First off I just want to say that I disagree with your analysis.

I think you're totally misinterpreting what the writers were trying to do, both with this situation and the situation with Tank.

I don't think they're trying to say that dressing up like a black person when you're white is wrong, or that having drunk sex equates rape. I think what they're essentially trying to do is demonstrate how controversial these subjects are and how divisive they can be. In a sense they'r trying to open up dialogue which is appropriate considering the climate we live in.

I consider myself liberal but the whole PC outrage *beep* is annoying. Like another poster mentioned, how is it okay for a black person to dress like a white person but if a white person dresses like a black person, it's inappropriate and racist? And even the situation with Tank. I think it was meant to be divisive because there have been many similar cases and they all aren't so black and white.

As much as the last bit irritated me with the phony PC outrage, I enjoyed this episode.

If you can't dazzle them with you wits, wow them with your tits

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^ yeah it was more about opening up a discussion about a social issue that can very divisive. Hence the comments popping up at the end of the episode had a lot of divisive comments if you read a couple.

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In all fairness to the writers... the people that were arguing were on twitter or some other form social media that usually lots of this new butt hurt generation tends.

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there was nothing wrong with the costume. If this how the rapper looks. Like someone said it show probably written by white people. Who want to start a controversy, so that when we do make a big deal about real racism. It will not make a big splash because we get upset about everything that's why they say pick your battles and this was not a battle to pick. He was not showing the rapper in a negative he was in the costume of how the real rapper looks.
and yes that whole Tank thing was disgraceful terribly written and played out, they were both drunk they say she was too drunk to consent if she got in a car or killed someone gun, knife or she went on a drunken shopping spree with here credit card she still is held responsible. Its not like he took advantage of girl he just met and pulled her clothes off, and she was not black out drunk.

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This is the thing with Tank. I absolutely do not believe he would rape Bay. Even in a drunken stage if she told him to stop, he would stop.

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Just a comment on the Tank/drunk sex=rape story line: If Tank was in trouble because sex with a drunk person means sex without consent and therefore rape, shouldn't Bay have gotten the same treatment? I mean Tank was just as drunk and therefore just as unable to give informed consent.................

as to cultural appropriation, all I have to say is if it's bad, then all you non-Irish people out there better stop doing Halloween.

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amen to that. it is ridiculous. I still feel so bad for Tank.

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I agree this storyline is dumb. Bill Maher on his show pretty much said as much that people finding stuff to be offended by where there are more serious things that are truely offensive.

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