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Police didnt miss their informant?


I mightve missed the explanation as i kept falling asleep but once julias character kidnapped the murderer - why didnt the police look into his sudden disappearance? I mean - wasnt he their informant on terrorist activity? Or was it just assumed he went into hiding after getting off on murder?

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I was thinking it was a lookalike guy.

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Well, it was said that apparently their informant wasn't all that important after all. Julia Roberts' character did mention though that they were able to solve the case without him so I would assume that the moment they figured they wouldn't need him they stopped to care about his whereabouts. At the end of the day he was a rapist and a murderer, and authorities knew that very well.
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He'd already dropped out of sight once. Big plot point that his "handler" hadn't been able to reach him for ten or twelve days following the rape-murder.

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SPOILER:

I think this is a BIG plot hole that was overlooked. The Los Angeles DA's Counter Terrorism department fought tooth and nail to protect its informant, Marzin, to the point where it was desperately trying to overlook the rape and murder of an innocent, 18-year old, girl. Once Marzin went missing, the C-T department's top brass would have immediately put the screws to Jess, the murdered girl's Counter Terrorism detective and her Afro-American colleague, both who were opening trying to nail Marzin. As the movie goes, once Marzin disappeared, ostensibly the C-T department lost interest in him. I don't buy that for one second. The reason is this. Back in 2001 right after the Twin Towers went down, there was strong reason to believe that Los Angeles would be high on the next hit list. New York City represented the East Coast and Los Angeles represented the West Coast. It made sense. Counter terrorism departments were on high alert to find any scrap of information. They just wouldn't instantly forget Marzin.

By the way, I was surprised that a cunning sociopath like Marzin didn't escape from that jerry-built cage that Jess had constructed in her countryside home. Inmates have escaped from much more complicated cages than that. There must have been extremely long periods that Marzin was alone as Jess was in Los Angeles doing her job. He could have found some means of escape. We're dealing with human cunning when it comes to criminals and criminals frequently rate much higher on human cunning than normal people.

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Ha!  That's not even a small plot hole. Much less a "big" one.

It's as simple as Jess states it.
a. Subsequent surveillance and investigation resulted in evidence that led to the destroying of the terror cell within the Al Ansara mosque.
b. Around that time she abducts Marzin.
c. No one missed him.

Eminently believable.

Take it like this: Siefert and Morales ONLY protected Marzin because he was the only thing they had on an islamic terror cell in LA. Were it not for that they would have let their "Afro-American" FBI agent colleague and/or the victim's mother go buck-wild on that muslim. They might have joined in. What did they care? LAPD shoot people for jaywalking. ...but for the killer of a friend's daughter? Shít! They would have been like, "save a piece of him for me!"

It's not a controversial plot element to say that, when no longer needed, a dirty snitch's life had less value to the police than a "truck-load of dead rats at at tampon factory". In fact, let's be honest, they would probably turn a very blind eye to his "disappearance" given what he had done and who he had done it to. "Oh, what's that you say Mrs. Marzin? Your son has gone missing again? Well, we'll get right on it and devote precious man/hours to finding him! *snicker*".

d. If they did go looking for, and found, Marzin...think about what he could say about how he was protected after he committed a capital crime. Morales the politician and Siefert the cover-up cop would probably be PRAYING that he was gone for good. And if they suspected Jess simply killed him...ALL THE BETTER!

Peace! 


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"...truck-load of dead rats at a tampon factory".

WTF? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!

That's going into my memory banks.

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Sure, you can explain anything away especially if it is your agenda, but the coincidence between him disappearing and them cracking a case is a little too much for me, but then we're supposed to believe the obsessed cop never made the connection? Then again from your over the top statements I know I'm wasting words.

Oh, but by all means please cite the last time a cop shot someone for jaywalking?

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...but then we're supposed to believe the obsessed cop never made the connection?
 What obsessed cop? Ray? Whether he would have suspected a connection or not what was he going to do? Come up with some outlandish theory and then ask, "Say Jess, you don't have Marzin caged in the back of your house do you?" I mean, seriously, if he seriously concluded that Jess had eliminated Marzin in some way then Ray would no longer be an obsessed cop. Justice would have been served...as he suggested in the elevator. He would have been fine with Jess keeping her secrets and not needed to press the issue.
Oh, but by all means please cite the last time a cop shot someone for jaywalking?
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peace! 


On November 6, 2012 god blessed America...again. 

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^^ So... no answer to the question asked, eh?. Why am I not surprised.

About the topic, while it is a bit of a coincidence that the police ended up not needing their snitch, the fact is he had already gone missing after the murder, and they only found him due to the officers investigating the murder off the record. It's not hard to believe that he would have gone missing again, and that's what the police must have thought.

There are problems with this movie, but I don't really think this is one of them.

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As for why the "cunning sociopath" never escaped when prison inmates have been known to make daring getaways.

Don't be so surprised! 

I mean, Jess was committed to having him "...rot in jail...Live a life of nothing."[/b] as a life sentence without parole. Let's look at how her efforts would be different from the typical penal system that allows some convicts to get away:

a. The jailer would be VERY committed to her job...and not be some underpaid, under-motivated lackey.
b. With no human rights organizations to answer to...
c. There would be no implements with which to affect an escape with...
d. No eating instruments, no shaving kits, no amusements, no posters, no diversions, no chess set, no tools, no knives, no forks...just a plastic poop bucket or a septic hole in the floor. Four walls and that's all.
e. With no privacy rights to worry about, a surveillance camera would serve to observe any manual attempts at freedom.
f. I am told that the State of California aims for a 5:1 prisoner:guard ratio. In this case it would be a 1:1 ratio. No division of attention. A sole focus. A life sentence for one inmate...and his jailer.

Marzin would not have much of a chance...but she would not have much of a life.

And that's the way the story goes! 


On November 6, 2012 god blessed America...again. 

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