He never took that lie detector test.
Said he would at one point but never did. IMHO, there is a reason for that.
shareBoth of his parents took one and passed. Yet you already said on another thread that you're not a believer. So...if he had taken one and passed it, what exactly would that prove to you? By your own admission, the test must not be accurate considering both Lutz parents passed one and yet you don't believe them.
shareWell it depends on the examiner. If it was a reputable one, then I'd tend to believe the results. No idea who gave his parents any tests. I'd like you to give more information on that if you can.
shareIt's easier to quote it:
"The polygraph tests were performed by Chris Gugas and Michael Rice. At the time, they were reportedly among the top 5 experts in the country for conducting polygraph tests. Chris Gugas was a student of the inventor of the lie detector, and reportedly taught the FBI how to use them."
This particular quote came from: http://www.amityvillefaq.com/hoax.html#polyexperts
However, you can find the same information on other sites.
Here are photocopies of the results:
Page 1: http://www.angelfire.com/scary2/amityville-horror/documents.html#doc1
Page 2: http://www.angelfire.com/scary2/amityville-horror/documents.html#doc2
Page 3: http://www.angelfire.com/scary2/amityville-horror/documents.html#doc3
Those are the results for both George and Kathy.
Those two examiners are extremely credible and I know you aren't going to want to hear this but the polygraph in 1979 is very much different than in 2014. I'd put more faith in a 2014 test from Danny than those done in '79.
shareJust to add my voice to this disussion...First off, I'm 100% open to the possibility of paranormal phenomena and have had some experiences of my own that I can't explain. On the other hand, I'm 100% skeptical of most paranormal stories when I hear them (and even of my own perceptions), and especially of Danny's story as presented in this documentary. His anger, extreme defensiveness, and contradictions, added to the basic fact that memory is FAR from infallible, and that we ALL re-create our memories over time. It's a fact of the human brain.
That said...lie detectors are not perfect, and certainly can give false positives and false negatives. But my personal belief in what happened with the adult Lutzes is that they passed the tests because they came to honestly BELIEVE the story they are telling. That doesn't mean that it really happened, though. (and I personally don't believe that it did, at least not like they tell it) They just believe it. If they had taken those lie detector tests the day after they left the house the last time, I'll bet the results would have been VERY different from what we saw when the finally got around to taking the tests, because they had decades to live with the memories, retell the stories, and re-shape all the memories by revisiting them over and over and over again, adding new details and outside opinions. Suggestion has a huge impact on memory, even for adults (and especially for kids).
I kinda agree. I think eventually they came to believe their own bullsh!t. Plus there are many ways to beat them and under best case scenarios can be wrong. The kids were way too young to have reliable memories. Then there's also the pesky fact that the house has had many owners since then and none reported anything paranormal.
shareWhat I don't get is why he won't take one. He said he would but never did so he is a confirmed liar right there. Surely he must know that even if he failed it, those who believe will continue to do so. He's really got nothing to lose by taking it. Lie detectors are not 100% accurate so there is always space for doubt but at least he will have stuck to his word.
shareWell, it's hard to speculate about his reasons, but I have to go back to how arrogant he seemed in the documentary. How dare anyone doubt his story. It has defined him since he was a young child, and as much as he says he doesn't want to be known as "the Amityville kid", he obviously does. Asking him to take a lie detector test points out to him that many people think it never happened, and if that is the case, then who is he? Just some middle-aged bald dude who has nothing going for him except the fact that he can sort of play the guitar and has a neat-o pair of shades.
shareYeah, I don't know if what he said about George being a total *beep* is true but if it is I can see how he would be so angry but I'm thinking the truth lies in the middle. I think George probably was a dick to the kids (not unheard of for step parents) but nowhere near as bad as he claims. I think Danny would have ended up being angry even in the best case scenario of being raised right. I think ginger-51 hit the nail on the head with the fact that he is insulted by even the accusation that it didn't happen because really that's his legacy whether he wants it to be or not and personally I think he DOES want it to be.
Another thing that bugged the hell out of me is when he started talking about how George could levitate things with his mind. I mean I don't care if you believe the Amityville story or not, if you believe anyone EVER levitated something with his mind, you should hide yourself in shame. I mean that is just stupid to the extreme.
I will say though with all my criticisms, I did enjoy this documentary very much and watched it a few times.
haha agreed it was very enjoyable to watch especially Danny with his douchey mixed up behavior. and the whole story is just very fascinating.
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