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Not impressed with lack of continuity and Lena


I've really enjoyed the first 4 seasons of the show but this last season has me baffled. The direction they took Adam and Jessa's character was so initially delightful but the sloppiness of the last few episodes eradicated any possibility of enjoying this season. sloppy writing, melodrama. Not my cup of tea. As for Lena, I've been catching up on articles and interviews of her and find her an unattractive, egotistical, narcissist. So, not remotely surprized her protagonist is one. Not impressed.

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I go out of my way to avoid interviews and commentary with Lena. She ruins the show for me, lol.

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Funny, it was actually through her interviews that I started to like her. It was then that I realized she is a lot different from Hannah. Lena obviously cares about people in her real life, not sure how you don't pick up on this.

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I hope you're not offended but I think she has some mental issue beyond the OCD. What she described in her book was not normal curiosity. Her using it for comedy is also deeply disturbing considering how her sister developed as a person. Her nudity and body image is often described as confidence but I see it as the exact opposite. A confident woman doesn't need to get naked for anyone but themselves and their partner. I think she has a deeply disturbing body image. Anyone who is so obviously unhealthy isn't proud but depressed. Lastly, her politics and views are so narrow and often angry. I feel like she hates men. Perhaps she's had some bad experiences which have shaped who she is. I don't feel any of her politics are for anything but attention and pushing her own agenda which appears to be trying to portray the "voice of a generation" when she just comes across as the "voice of dysfunction". Her latest missteps with the Kanye song, is another blatant example of that. Narcissist don't care about others. Just themselves. She is very much like her character Hannah. A narcissist who believes she is above it all and treats others accordingly.

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Why do you feel LD hates men? Although, I think the show is endlessly vapid, I was once a "girl" coming-of-age in NY and this BLEW ME AWAY:

I think they're gonna gain a unique understanding of how Jewish men, particularly in their twenties, are this, just, very specific mix of sexual bravado and extreme self-hatred, and it can be really destructive to the girls they choose to *beep*.
--Hannah in "Good Man"


Point being that I've never gotten the sense that she's a man-hater. I think she's found guys useful as a catalyst towards her own self-discovery. And in that, she's found that they're not any one thing, but complex and insecure, much like women.

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"Point being that I've never gotten the sense that she's a man-hater. I think she's found guys useful as a catalyst towards her own self-discovery."

Sounds highly narcisstic.

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Outstanding. Now all we need is a deck of cards.

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Everyone is narcissistic, it's a key element to healthy self-esteem. I think romantic relationships always lead to self-discovery... I was trying to explain that someone who deems men so necessary to their own personal narrative, probably doesn't hate them. I think she's just a Twenty Something "girl" who, like many young women, is bewildered yet intrigued by guys.

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"Everyone is narcissistic"

No, that's not what "narcissistic" means. Narcissism is pathological and is not healthy.

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Outstanding. Now all we need is a deck of cards.

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