Now that she came out then she thinks she can act all high and mighty. Many people who come out get ostracized by their parents and would do anything for their love. You have Meri practically begging Mariah for acceptance and to be included.
I think Mariah is using the "Catfish" fiasco as an excuse to not deal with Meri.
Honestly, I've ALWAYS thought Mariah was a brat and this episode just proves it.
I think Meri is an emotional drain who sucks the life out of those close to her. Her daughter is wise to back off. Yes, she is a little bratty, but maybe that's a case of the apple not falling far from the tree.....
shareIf you watch The Real Housewives of Orange County, Meri reminds me quite a bit of Vicki Gunvalson. Everything in Vicki's life is about Vicki and, if it's not about Vicki, she'll go through any number of contortions to make it be about Vicki. Meri does the same thing. Mariah coming out was about Mariah, but Meri managed to turn the focus back to Meri by whining to the others about how difficult she's finding it to amend her dreams of the future, how difficult she's finding it to have Mariah more comfortable speaking with the other mothers than with her own mother, how difficult she finds it for Mariah to not immediately stop being mad and be close to her again -- on Meri's command -- so that it's Meri standing with her in this new spotlight. I also happen to think Mariah is a bit of a pestilence, but she does seem happier since coming out, and, as much as Meri wants to be part of that with her, trying to force someone into either forgiveness or intimacy never, ever works. If Meri were a little more mature, and a little less self-centered, she might see that.
shareExactly.
To add a little bit Meri seems to want to analyze everything when some people just don't go that deep on every little thing. This is no big deal just move on instead it is Meri crying all over again.
So tired of this show. It has lost it focus. It's no longer about plural marriage. Meri doesn't even seem in the marriage anymore. It is one minor thing blown out of proportion ever single week. Christine and Janelle appear to just be groupies.
If you think that is a brat you are seriously messed up.
What did she do wrong? Should she be kissing her moms feet for not throwing her out? Mariah is dealing with confusion over coming out and her mother had asking awkward intrusive questions. Mariah probably has had no idea how to Nswer them to herself. If anyone us a brat it us Meri. She has some his made it to be all about herself. She won't get a son in law. She won't get a traditionsl wedding. She won't get grandchildren. And of course she drags in the cat fished.
Guess what Mariah has every right to be hurt by her mother. She isn't angry about her mother hurting her dad. She has angry because her mother was lying to her. And put their family in physical risk. This is a perfectly natural reaction. And she doesn't need to be instantly ready to forgive Meri just becayse she is gay.
someone REALLY should proofread (or turn on autocorrect) before they hit post...................
shareI've got a couple on ignore now (which I'm sure isn't breaking their hearts!;)
One is for the reason you stated. The posts don't even make sense, there's so many misspelled words, I couldn't wade through them without thinking WTF? Easier just to ignore IMO.
There must be something wrong with Maya's phone. Her posts all of sudden have these weird errors. I posted to her about it but she didn't respond. I'll try again.
shareMaya, I think there is something wrong with your auto-correct.
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Y'all are being insensitive. Perhaps Maya is from a foreign country. If so, she's not doing too bad.
shareNot on Meri's side about the Catfish, am on Meri's side about the coping with this latest news. I'm going to let her stew in it for a moment and that is only because Mariah is being a terrible, passive-aggressive, little biatch....
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Mariah is a whiny little brat.
Even though Mariah is being a total butt head about this catfish thing, Meri is still trying to understand her and stay close to her. I am sorry, but Mariah has no rights to be carrying on like this. I remember that Mariah admitted to her dad that she knew about Sam. She said she tried to talk her mom into dropping it, warned her about it, and so forth. So she wasn't lied to. This was about her parents and their marriage and lack of communication. Yes, Mariah is right, Meri shouldn't have done it. But you know what, she did. Move on. This is not about her, and I am tired of Meri butt kissing up to her.
Then her mom is trying to talk to her about her new lifestyle and Mariah will barely offer up a word. Meri is trying to pull info from her, and admits that she don't know what words to use and doesn't want to offend. However, Mariah acts like she is ready to pounce on her for one wrong thing. For example, her mom said her feelings were weird, and instantly Mariah takes a defensive stance. She made such a big deal about how the word weird was being used, how her mom meant it, if it was directed at her......Yet in her interview she also used the same word that made her uncomfortable.
This irked me, however, it left me steaming when I saw her out with her siblings and Logan wants to ask her something and she is all giggly and says "oh sure, ask away."
I can't stand this entitled brat and I really doubt she is gay. I think she is rebellious and can't stand the attention her sisters are getting for getting married.
"I am sorry, but Mariah has no rights to be carrying on like this."
Yes she does, two words- banana picture.
Ohhhh... but Meri wants to pretend that none of that happened! She didn't send "Sam" pictures of herself deep throating produce, or naked in the bubble bath, or seductively posing naked with nothing but a bathrobe falling off of her, of pictures of her cleavage while wearing skimpy tank tops.
Come on, Meri acted like a 14 who just discovered snapchat- texting sexually explicit pics to a total stranger she had met online. All of Mariah's friends and classmates saw those- the entire world saw them, do you have any idea how embarrassing and humiliating that would be for her?!?! Not to mention all of the voicemails and texts...
Mariah is a grown woman, if she never forgives her mother then that's her prerogative. Frankly I wouldn't blame her if she didn't.
~Oh look... a room full of men that have NO idea how to satisfy a woman.~
But but Jackie made all that up!! She's just really good at photoshop and mimicking peoples voices!! Meri was only in it for the friendship!! ?
shareHAHA! Oh of course!
And Meri was on a high potassium diet- and she also had a horrible toothache that day, so she had to swallow the banana whole- and at that moment her phone malfunctioned and took a selfie and sent it to "Sam". Poor poor Meri. *snort*
Meri thinks everyone is a complete idiot who's gonna buy her lame a$$ excuses.
~Oh look... a room full of men that have NO idea how to satisfy a woman.~
shareHAHA just like spliced the voice mails to make them more incriminating... When that was said she lost all credibility!
shareShe didn't send "Sam" pictures of herself deep throating produce, or naked in the bubble bath, or seductively posing naked with nothing but a bathrobe falling off of her, of pictures of her cleavage while wearing skimpy tank tops.
Sorry guys, but I have to disagree. First, we'll never know what was real and what was fake with the things 'Sam' did. My first thought is who has more credibility - Sam or Meri and I start from there. When this was going on I analyzed everything and a 10-year-old would know most of those voicemails were edited and spliced. The same with the photos - if you examine the 'offending' photos, they could have easily been photoshopped. Jackie Overton is pretty tech savvy. However, because Meri got involved in this bizarre situation I believe some of it, but not the things that are obviously fake.
shareThat's a bit sad (for me). I thought Meri might suddenly have become a bit more interesting (to me) instead of the mopey, sadsack she's been for a while (to me).
Although, I noticed she got a bit of sparkle back on her trip to Atlanta. I wonder why? (Completely rhetorical question).
I really doubt she is gay.
I understand why Mariah was hurt, and disappointed with Meri- I really do. However, an entire year year has gone by and she still claims she "isn't ready" to work things out with her mom. At this point, what is going to change- especially if she is unwilling to even hash things out with Meri.
It is now seeming more like a power play or control issue than anything.
Mariah wants acceptance and understanding as she discovers herself and her new life as a gay woman, but is unwilling to give the same understanding to Meri as she herself is going through an uncertain time.
I understand why Mariah was hurt, and disappointed with Meri- I really do. However, an entire year year has gone by and she still claims she "isn't ready" to work things out with her mom. At this point, what is going to change- especially if she is unwilling to even hash things out with Meri.
It is now seeming more like a power play or control issue than anything.
Mariah wants acceptance and understanding as she discovers herself and her new life as a gay woman, but is unwilling to give the same understanding to Meri as she herself is going through an uncertain time.
Meri needs real mental health help.
shareIf you mean by real mental health help, someone besides Nancy, I wholeheartedly agree. Nancy has taught Meri that processing things means staying in the minutia of identifying and complaining about the problem rather than really working towards a resolution.
What Meri needs is someone to teach her problem solving skills that will teach her how to get from Step A (identifying the problem) to Step B (discussing the payoffs for the behavior) and finally Step C (finding a resolution). Step C involves internal work and discussing what You need to change. Meri is stuck somewhere in between step A and B and Nancy thinks that is good therapy.
But therapists make their money by making sure their patients never reach Step C. If their patients reached that step, they might not be needed. Countertranferance much?
Plus problem-solving skills gives one confidence, focus and serenity and holy moly that woman needs bushels of those traits.
shareShe is one of the most beat down and bullied women I have ever seen. She reminds me of the puppies and children that I saw on every aid commercial during the Holidays. Meri is a domestic violence victim, if you think about it, but without the physical violence. It is all psychological. Even her being catfished was all psychological, and it was because she made herself so vulnerable.
Even though I, for the first time, saw the wisdom that all the wives see in Robyn during this episode, wasn't that Meri's role during the first season? For the first time in the history of the show Robyn showed great wisdom. I actually liked her. But even in Robyn's interventions, or Meri's need to have Robyn present during a discussion that should have taken place between the two biological parents of Mariah, Meri deferred to Robyn.
I really feel for Meri right now. She has been demoted from being the first wife to not only the insignificant wife, but also the powerless, impotent mother.
Someone, Kody maybe, said they had been having problems for 12 years, but if so, how come it just manifested itself in her since the show started? I think she really started feeling useless and it just snowballed over these last 5 years. She lost her identity. Along with problem solving comes good judgment, like her first intuition, which was to go to school. She thinks going to school is a means to a goal, but the journey for her would be eye opening. But no, she starts selling clothes over the internet. She needs a life coach. Hey, I know one - Strive!
shareCin, read my edit.....it explains a lot more of what I am thinking.
She needs a life coach. Hey, I know one - Strive!
I live through Michelle & Logan, as the kind of kids I wish I had and as the young person, I was. I would watch a show with them in it - I love Michelle's tweets.
shareMeri is her own worst enemy. You can't look for validation from other people; it has to come mostly from within. She is beating down and bullying herself.
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"Shaken, not ridiculed"
You're right-Meri is definitely part of the problem. She needs to give Mariah a heartfelt apology and explain that it had more to do with her and Kody and that she was wrong to involve Mariah at all. Then tell her they need to agree to move on.
Kody is also contributing to the problem by entertaining Mariah's attitude towards Meri. Mariah respects Kody and him telling her that she needs to mend things with Meri now and stop beating her up would go a long way towards a resolution.
I also don't believe she is gay. I think she's very jealous of her sisters getting married and I don't think she's ever had a boyfriend. Being "gay" hurts her mother, gets her attention, and explains why she's never had a man.
shareI have no idea why anyone would doubt Mariah being gay. If she says she is, then she is. There are better ways to get her parents attention than to fake going through what had to have been a very difficult process of self realization. She could have moved in with a skeezy guy- oh yeah, Mykelti already did that...( just kidding). Mariah also has the symbolic triangle tattooed on her wrist.
shareI'm sorry, but Christine's mother who has this *beep* eating grin on her face grabs Mariah and hugs her and says, 'that's awesome'. Nah, they didn't know beforehand that Mariah was gay.
shareI agree with you. I don't like Mariah and now she's come out gay... everyone supports her but she's still being a biatch to her Mom. Can't stand her.
shareI kinda felt the same way while I was watching their conversation. I understand Mariah is mad at her mom and isn't ready to patch up their relationship, but I think she should have at least acknowledged that Meri is trying and thrown her a bone or something.
shareYup. Mariah acts like an only child and there aren't 20 other kids besides her. She asked to go to that hella expensive school and live in Utah so she can be a good little sister wife only to come out, which is her choice and it doesn't bother me, but it's her whole self centered attitude. Even the catfishing she is trying to make all about her and how it affects her. You would think she and Meri were the ones in a relationship. Mariah cares more than Kody lol.
shareI understand why Mariah was hurt, and disappointed with Meri- I really do. However, an entire year has gone by and she still claims she "isn't ready" to work things out with her mom. At this point, what is going to change?- especially if she is unwilling to even hash things out with Meri.
It is now seeming more like a power play or control issue than anything.
Mariah wants acceptance and understanding as she discovers herself and her new life as a gay woman, but is unwilling to give the same understanding to Meri as she herself is going through an uncertain time.