I saw a clip that showed Maddie talking about having a boy, and discussing her plans for a home birth. Wonder if she will go home to Janelle's to deliver or will Janelle go to her? Actually I wonder if Janelle would even want to be there at the birth- not really her thing.
shareOf course she does, so the camera crew can film it Duggar style. *barf*
shareWhen I heard her say that I thought well, you can take the girl out of polygamy, but you can't take polygamy traits out of the girl. As they've said, especially Christine, the reason they have home births is so the hospitals won't question them about the father which we know is total 💩. Why oh why is she doing that? I hope she changes her mind.
shareI honestly have never seen the benefit of all these birthing crazes, like water births, home births, silent births. Just so bizarre how people taut the 'magic' of it. What the hell is wrong with going to a hospital and having an epidural? Every woman I know who has given birth says there was nothing magical about it, until they actually got to hold their baby.
shareI suspect some home births are due to lack of funds and/or inadequate medical facilities, but as far as the other kinds of childbirth, no thank you. I'm a large city girl and I've never known anyone who had a home birth.
shareHome births aren't necessarily cheap either.
shareIf you have a baby at home, you're not paying the outrageous cost of a hospital and I don't know, but I assume most home births are done by a midwife. Midwives have to be less expensive than a doctor. I guess my question is, how are they not cheap?
shareYou're right they are less expensive, I was never saying they are more expensive then hospital births, but its dont mean they are cheap. Granted its been a long time since I've had a child but a midwives will easily cost you thousands. the people I've know that have done home births dont do it b/c its cheaper, they do it b/c they want to do a home birth. I dont get it, I wanted drugs when I had my son, but some ladies want the natural experience.
shareI've never had a baby, but whenever I thought about it, it always included as many drugs as possible. 
shareYeah I don't understand how people don't want drugs, but more power to them!! Me, I wasnt about to be in pain!! lol😀
shareI never understood my wife being willing to have a needle (that looks like a knitting needle) shoved into her back until this last year. I have received cortisone injections through a lumbar epidural puncture in my back 3 times in the last year to deal with my back problems. When I realized that it was similar to what my wife received during childbirth (the difference is the drugs introduced), I was much more understanding.
I hate needles, I wouldnt let them show me what it looked like (I knew it was a big needle), that helped me!!
shareI had two epidurals, one for each kid. They don't let you see the needle prior to the injection. It is wheeled in on a tray of tools that has a sterile cloth covering the tools. They put a topical numbing agent on the injection spot. You have to stay very still while they inject you, but you are having intense and painful contractions. You time the contractions, wait for one to recede and then get the shot. It felt like a pinch. Ever had a tooth taken out, or dental surgery? The dentist numbs the surface and then sticks a big needle of novacane in your gum. It felt like that. More like pressure than pain. Even then, both my epidurals wore off. I got a butterfly clamp with an IV drip for the first kid, and I felt nothing during delivery. It was weird. Second kid came so fast they didn't get to give me more drugs, so I felt that. It hurt. A lot.
shareIt does seem a bit "antiestablishment " to insist on home birth in the United States. After all, the point is to deliver a healthy baby into the world, and hospital or birthing center delivery is definitely safer than home birth in the US. Canada's infant mortality rate is almost identical for home birth and hospital birth- but their requirements are much more stringent.
* I had a C section with my 1st (after a long labor), and was able to deliver my other 3 babies naturally. I actually did find it quite magical !! 😉
Our children were all born in these wonderful places called hospitals. The last two born in 1980 and 1987 were born in a birthing center in the hospital, which was more like a hotel suite and not like a sterile delivery room.
After having seen one natural birth, I didn't question my wife's decision to have an epidural for the last two.
Our infant mortality rate has gone up and I don't know if that has anything to do with home births, but it should not be going up. The first pregnancy is important because there's no prior experience as far as things that could go wrong like Julie pointed out. If I was inclined, I'd have my first in a hospital and if I was over 40, in a hospital. I think it would be the safest at home if you were someone like Robyn - already a mom and healthy, but Ari's birth was not like Solomon's - I bet she would have liked to have been in a nice hospital bed with some great drugs.
shareYou do realize that hospital births are a relatively new phenomenon, like in the last 100 years or so? Home birth isn't exactly a new fad thing. Waterbirthing also has been around for thousands of years. (I won't speak towards the silent birth Scientology business.)
There's nothing wrong with going to a hospital and having an epidural if that's what you want. But there's nothing wrong with choosing to give birth at home with an uncomplicated pregnancy either. I think it's great we have options to do what is most comfortable for each of us.
And my births felt magical to me, even with the hospital and epidurals...
You do realize that hospital births are a relatively new phenomenon, like in the last 100 years or so?
When it comes to childbirth, especially with a first child, I don't think anyone with a brain, or at least a cerebral cortex, would recommend a home birth.
Even though giving birth at home is relatively safe for a non complicated delivery, it is still a calculated risk. A 1st time mother has no idea how her body will respond to labor, but just as every baby is different, so is every pregnancy and labor, so delivering at home for a 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th baby is not without risk. When the stakes are so high, I'm not sure that it is worth it-especially since more hospitals and birthing centers are now offering a home like birth experience ( with critical life saving technology steps away)...
shareYou do realize that hospital births are a relatively new phenomenon, like in the last 100 years or so?I read DesertDude's cerebral response to this, but my response is that the reason there weren't hospital births is because there weren't hospitals and the mortality rate was 1 in 10 babies died and 9 in 1000 mothers died. Now 1% of mothers die in childbirth and 7 in 1000 babies die and that's even way too high. In fact, infant mortality is going up which is unbelievable to me and I wonder how many of those babies were home birthed? share
After Robyn's last home delivery I would think the entire Brown clan would have second thoughts about a home delivery.
Maybe Maddie needs to be sentenced to the Happy Hut to watch Robyn's last birth.
I guess there are two possibilities for them wanting to do this:
1. She and Caleb don't have health insurance.
2. TLC is promising her Big Money to give birth on camera.
1. If they don't have health insurance, especially when they will have a newborn in a couple months, I have really misjudged Maddie.
2. I thought of this and this makes sense, except I am still disappointed that Caleb would drink the Sister Wives kool aid, no matter the paycheck.
With all the uncertainty surrounding health insurance right now (and it's only going to get much worse after Friday), it could be entirely possible that they don't have insurance. I can only assume Caleb is employed (not sure what he does) and Maddie isn't right now(I could be wrong on that). So them not having insurance may be definitely playing into their plan in having a home birth.
shareYou know how Kody is about insurance and this is just one of my theories, but one of the reasons the older kids are still on the show is not only because they get paid some money, but I think that's where they get their medical benefits. The kids are getting braces now, so I have no doubt they're all covered by insurance. Kody wouldn't allow his precious Maddie to not be covered. Didn't you hear him at the wedding? 
shareWhat I stated was only an assumption. I didn't state with any certainty that they didn't have insurance. Either way, homebirth or hospital birth, TLC will foot the bill so they can film it for the show.
shareMine is just a theory too because we don't know, but yes, whether it's on the show or not, TLC is paying for it. But I think they're going to show it.
shareI think many women opt for home births because they think it will be less stressful (and therefore easier) to be in familiar surroundings than in a hospital or clinic. That is, if it is not a high risk delivery.
sharePart of it is the thinking that birth is not a disease process, it is a natural process and often when people go into the hospital they enter what I like to call " the hamster wheel of care". Some hospitals are better than others about allowing a woman to walk, shower, eat, in labor, and are somewhat flexible about positioning for delivery. It is counterproductive to lay in a bed during labor. Many women opt for an epidural and there's nothing wrong with that, but there are risks involved. An IV is necessary, almost all women drop their blood pressure after an epi, and when mom's B/P drops, so does baby's. It just depends on what kind of birth experience people want.
shareHome births aren't a polygamy trait, I know plenty of people that have had home births and none were polygamist. In fact my co-worker just had a home birth and I know a mid-wife
shareHome births are a trait of polygamy. I didn't say non-polygamists women don't have home births.
shareBut thats the way you made it sound, you said you can take the polygamy of the girl but not the trait, I was simply pointing out that other people do it as well. If that's not what you meant, okay, but thats the way I read it.
shareYou've never heard the phrase 'you can take the person out of ________ (like their hometown), but you can't the _________ (hometown) out of the person'? It's a common phrase. What I meant was, Maddie can grow up, get married, reject polygamy, but she can't escape her upbringing. Her upbringing was that women have home births and the reason being they are polygamists.
shareYes, I've heard and know the phrase and usually that phrase is meant as an insult. I'm just saying when I read it, it still kind of sounded like you were implying that only poly people did it. You said thats not how you meant it, so okay. I still wanted to point out that polygamist arent the only ones.
shareI've been using that phrase as long as I can remember and I've never used it or thought of it as an insult. In fact, I always thought of it more as humor. I guess if a person was brought up in a horrible situation and someone said that to them, it would be negative, but honestly I never even thought that until you brought it up and I think it's common knowledge that other people besides polygamists have home births.
shareI've usually heard it when people are referring to trailer park trash, so they are trying to put someone down. And you'd be surprised what some people may or may not know!! lol Some of the things I've read on these boards on the things people believe cracks me up!!
shareI actually use that phrase to talk about myself & where & how I grew up. I would never use that phrase to say something bad about someone.
shareTo me it means only the positive. "You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy," describes me a lot. I grew up in the South end of Salt Lake County when it was primarily rural. Since then it has become more and more urban. In fact SLC and the surrounding counties is now 2 million people.
In 1991, this country boy that grew up in rural South Jordan decided that Salt Lake had become too big and I decided our family needed to find a more rural place to live. So we moved to Southeastern Utah.
This country boy just found a new place to live and still be a country boy...and raise his younger children as country boys.
I know! I always thought it was kind of a cute phrase, however, I can now see where it could be used in a nasty context.
shareGreat comment.
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