haven't watched the new series. i watched only because of those two and now they're gone so i have to ask.. was it explained in the new series what happened to their characters?
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I sound my barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world!
In the first episode of the new series, it was mentioned in passing that they were both let go and that neither impressed enough to stay, tom didnt fit in and natalie slept with clive reader and since she was the favourite they were both droppped, im about 75% right about this but dont hold me to it.
shareYou're right uani - Billy mentioned in Episode 1 in Series 2 that both pupils were let go, but I don't remember him talking of any reasons for that. He just said it was a decision of Head of Chambers.
P.S. Can everyone just try and not talk about actors, using their names, while obviously meaning their characters (or even worse, mixing the two)? I mean, how could Natalie Dormer (an actress and a real-life person) have slept with Clive Reader (a character in the show)?
Natalie Dormer didnt sleep with clive reader???? i heard different down the pub ehehehhehe
shareIf, in real life, pupils are dropped from chambers does that mean that is the end of their careers? What happens to them?
I am not talking about the actors.
It is not uncommon for pupils not to find tenancies at the chambers in which they are pupil. Increasing numbers of people are completing the qualifications so there is increasing competition. Assuming they are signed off by their pupilmasters they can look for other chambers for vacancies or elsewhere in the legal profession.
Mind you I doubt someone like Hughes' character would find a place if indeed they signed him off! He didn't know the first thing! (though obviously in the drama for the purposes of exposition).
Natalie Dormer is trying to be Queen again. This time on Game of Thrones.
Didn't she learn her lesson last time?!
Not sad to see the Natalie Dormer character go. That actress has annoyed me mightily since I first saw the sleeze 'n' poutfest that was her Anne Boleyn in The Tudors. She was no better in Silk, imo. Something unfortunate about one side of her top lip always makes her look as if she is sneering.
shareThe characters were let go because scheming Billy (senior clerk) tripped up Clive Reader, who was thinking of going to different chambers. He intended to take his pupil (Natalie) with him, and she mentioned it to the other pupil (Tom) Billy blackmailed Clive, and then covered him by pretending Clive was helping Billy to flush out "disloyal" members of chambers. At the chambers meeting when Nina Sosanya's character announced Clive would head the new breakaway chambers, the pupils were seen by head of chambers to be disloyal, while Clive kept silent about his intent to leave & allowed them to be dismissed. I found Natalie's portrayal of a bright young barrister pupil to be spot on, and her character was far more believable than Tom's, who didn't do his homework and didn't know his precedent cases, and was visibly awkward & fumbling in court. I've only seen that once or twice in 26 years in the business ! I wouldn't have had him on my litigator's panel and as an employer I probably would have let him go, while keeping Natalie's charachter as she was bright, sharp, and very good in court. For another excellent British series on law & barristers, see "This Life", but forget the "Reunion" episode, made ten years later.
shareI have only watched the first two episodes airing on PBS in US. And am trying to understand the British system of jurisprudence. I have often assumed that a barrister was similar to a trial attorney or litigator, while a solicitor was someone who takes initial action for a client as a representative.
The "pupil" system as depicted in this series seems analogous to an apprenticeship program. Have the "pupils" graduated law school like here in the US with a JD - Juris Doctorate? Or are they apprenticing to practice law through the guidance of the Chambers?
btw... Miss Costello's pupil is ill suited to be a member of the bar due to his dishonesty and lack of ethics - theft, breach of confidentiality, etc.
I am a bit sad to know that we will never know the 'back story' on Nick (Tom Hughes). I felt like we were set up to not like his lack of ethics and dishonesty, but how did he get there in the first place?
shareI found Natalie's portrayal of a bright young barrister pupil to be spot on, and her character was far more believable than Tom's, who didn't do his homework and didn't know his precedent cases, and was visibly awkward & fumbling in court. I've only seen that once or twice in 26 years in the business ! I wouldn't have had him on my litigator's panel and as an employer I probably would have let him go, while keeping Natalie's character as she was bright, sharp, and very good in court.
I believe there was a mere glimpse of the 2 characters at the beginning of the second series on the seconds of the first episode. correct me if I am wrong people...
shareNatalie signed Game of Throne, Tom signed a film (I believe it's Page Eight featured Ralph Fiennes), so their characters both left in series 2. I'm afraid same thing happened in series 2 with Shaun Evans. He had other engagement, so Peter Moffat has to write something explaining why his character didn't manage to stay in Shoe Lane in series 3 - despite it is said that he might write something romantic between Daniel and Martha if Shaun could make series 3! What a pity!
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