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British Legal System question


I'm in the middle of episode 1 of Silk, and as a American, I'm lost in the British legal system. I'm wondering if maybe Law & Order UK has confused me.

Why is a character defending a criminal and then prosecuting a rapist the next day? Are there no designated prosecutors in Britain?

In America, there is either the District Attorney/State's Attorney at a local level, or the US Attorney at a countrywide level to prosecute people. While you can hire a defense attorney, if you cannot afford one, the government pays a group of people called Public Defenders.

I tried doing some internet research myself, but I couldn't find a good page that made sense to me. Do Queen's Counselors serve both the role of Prosecutor and Public Defense Attorney? Either way, who are these "Crown Prosecutors" that work with the police on Law & Order: UK?

Also, why is it that the lawyers don't seem to talk to their clients at all? I have been able to find that their are solicitors who deal more directly with the client and barristers who are in the courtroom. Do they really only exchange one or two words with them while defending them based on briefs? Are prosecutors not allowed to talk to witnesses outside the court room?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

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The tape recording was basically blackmail, not actually being introduced into the courtroom. She threatened to share it with the media when the cop judge said it couldn't prove even who's voice it was. He didn't want to risk being judged in the "court of public opinion." It seemed to show that he himself was extremely racist, although I couldn't make out much of what was being said.

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I answered a different post here. Barristers can represent either the Crown or the Public. Depends on what head of chambers appoints them on each case.

This might help explain better:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen's_Counsel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barristers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_(law)

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I'm Canadian, but I think I can answer some of your questions.

In the British legal system, barristers, who are the only lawyers who can appear in the higher courts, are free-lancers, "instructed" by the solicitors who deal with the clients. I noticed that, in a brief flash of a list of the chambers accounts, that CPS was at the top--that would be Crown Prosecution Services (led by the Director of Public Prosecutions, or DPP). I don't know if the CPS has some salaried barristers (I don't even know if that would be possible or legal, since barristers are very protective of their rights and privileges), but I believe that CPS would generally prepare cases, like any solicitors but for the Crown, and find barristers to prosecute them in court. I expect that some barristers might specialize, or prefer, either prosecutions or defence, but that would be up to them (or their clerks, I guess). I remember that Rumpole of the Bailey (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078680/reference) was strictly a defence guy.

(I saw only a few episodes of Law & Order UK, and I don't remember whether the prosecutors were CPS solicitors, or barristers.)

I was interested to note that at one point Martha tells her student that it is unwise to talk with a client without the presence of his solicitor, because the client could then allege that the barrister gave him or her bad advice (or something like that). This might actually be a relaxing of the rules, because in the comedy A Fish Called Wanda (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/reference), the barrister played by John Cleese finds it extremely improper to be approached by the character played by Jamie Lee Curtis on behalf of his client and her fellow thief, and (as I recall) literally runs from her. I believe that all "instructions" have to come to the barrister through the client's instructing solicitors.

QCs in the UK are a rank of barrister--they get to command higher fees, wear fancier gowns, and get certain privileges such as being at the front of various kinds of lines. It would be up to the client and solicitor (or the CPS solicitors) to decide whether to hire (and pay for) a QC (and usually one or more "junior"s as assistants). It would generally take a well-heeled client, or a higher-profile case, to call for QC representation. Like all barristers, QCs can work for prosecution or defence. (Again, I remember that Rumpole, with more than enough seniority and wins to get a QC, resolutely refuses one, because he enjoys the down-market cases he gets, and doesn't want to be priced out of the market for them.)

Hope that this addresses at least some of your questions, and I hope that if I've made any mistakes someone more familiar with the system will correct me. I started another thread (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1717455/board/nest/219018647) where I've addressed some of these points.

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A related question: do British barristers make so many statements in court (as opposed to questions only)? Or is that just for dramatic effect in the show?

It seems like the lawyers are always giving arguments rather than asking questions.

Also, do judges in England step in with their opinions in real life as much as they do in the show?


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