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Deterrence doesn't work because criminals don't consider consequences


Every study on the subject has proven that specific "deterrence" as a strategy for lowering crime is not only ineffective, but counterproductive. Societies with harsh prison prison systems have both the highest crime rates and the highest recidivism rates.

Here's one persuasive essay on the topic, which mentions the original "Scared Straight" specifically: web.viu.ca/crim/Student/S%20Wu%20Deterrence%20Theory.pdf

Another recent article: http://www.youthtoday.org/view_article.cfm?article_id=4566

Criminals act out of passion, desperation and the influence of drugs and alcohol. In the heat of the moment, they don't think about getting caught, much less going on trial or being punished.

Instead of trying to scare kids about the realities of American prisons, we should be concentrating on prison reform and actually making it an effective system. The "prison-as-hell" model only teaches our youth that life is cheap, people are horrible and the state condones violence, rape, abuse of power, gang warfare, suicide, drug abuse and racism inside. That's how you breed white-collar first offenders into killers.

The most effective prisons in the world are, perhaps surprisingly, the cushiest. This is hard for some people in the western world to accept, who often tend to think criminals of all stripes as "evil" and "hardened." But nations like Norway and Finland, where the jails are relatively pleasant and inmates are treated like human beings, have the lowest crime rates and, most importantly, the lowest reincarceration rates.

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And I couldn't agree more with that. They say people go there for rehabiliation. But is it rehab when you have a bunch of animals killing each other over something so small? Is it rehab when prisoners come out scarred for life because of the beatings and rape they received there?

It's as if they're throwing people in there like trash, pretty much a waste management facility. And some materials don't mix well. Every prisoner should have his/her own room. And should have the right to stay in it as long as they want until their sentence is over.

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I have to disagree. As a taxpayer, the thought of sending violent criminals to "cushy" or comfortable prisons is sickening.

I do agree that we need to stop filling our prisons with non-violent offenders who are caught with pot or pills (unless they're dealing those drugs to children). (Luckily, many states & counties are beginning to set up drug courts, which deal with drug abuse.)

But IMO rapists, murderers, child molesters do NOT deserve a second chance in society, nor do they deserve to live a "cushy" life in prison. Prison is supposed to be a punishment and a determent for people to NOT break the law.

(Maybe you should ask the victims of these violent criminals if they agree that prison life should be so comfortable.)






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Most of these kids are already a lost cause, they need to start this Scared Straight stuff around 5 or 6 years old and they need to make the parents go through it too.

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