I think anyone who liked this crap needs to go in for psychological counseling. I couldn't even finish watching this crap.
shareActually could not agree more. Snail's pace and about as thrilling as watching paint dry. So much for the "thriller" tag. And don't even get me started on the "mystery" tag... "mysterious" good-looking man turns out to be a...wait for it...murderer!! Who'd have thought!?!
Awful movie.
Actually thought the way our heroine reacted to him was intriguing.
It wasn't what he was, which was easy to see, for the viewing audience but how India took it in after the tragedies already experienced in her young life.
I did not think this was an exceptional film but it was worth at least one view.
Spoiler?
...then whoa, differences...
It's a psychological film that's entirely too taken with its self for its own good .
share"It's a psychological film that's entirely too taken with its self for its own good ." - daviolinspider
It's a disgusting film which focuses on a molester or pedophile attempting to seduce a 16 year old autistic teenage girl whose family has a penchant for violence and gets sexually high off of it while they're killing people. I can't believe Nicole Kidman played in this very disturbing film.
I checked this crap out from the library because I had no idea it was like that. The back of the video just made it sound like it was a mystery.
I'm so glad I didn't finish watching it and I didn't waste a cent on it.
I have to have some respect for your library for having "Stoker" on their shelves.
I can't believe Nicole Kidman played in this very disturbing film
It's a disgusting film which focuses on a molester or pedophile attempting to seduce a 16 year old autistic teenage girl whose family has a penchant for violence and gets sexually high off of it while they're killing people.
What, pray heavens, did give you the impression India was in the autism spectrum? She was just as sociopathic as her dear uncle. Her father, rightly recognizing the early signs, had her practice restrain and focus with the hunting trips, hoping it would give her a sort of outlet and prevented her from becoming like Charlie. It did work to some extent - she didn't even became fully aware of who she was until she was confronted with her uncle and saw herself - her true self - staring back at her. Thanks to Richard, she's more controlled and calculating than Charlie ever was, she does not give in to her impulses so easily... Unfortunately for the rest of humankind, daddy dearest give her all the right weapons to survive and satisfy her urges without getting caught.
Charlie was NOT sexually attracted to her niece. Sex didn't even seemed that importat to him - just a means to an end. He just wanted someone who could understood him, someone like him, a family. (And wasn't India like eighteen? Even if he did intended to seduce her, say, sweet sixteen self, it still wouldn't be pedophilia. Please, look up the definition.)
Nicole Kidman always had a penchant for unique, indie like films. I can't believe you never saw or heard of "Birth".
I got the same impression by the way she was acting and a synopsis of the story that said she had sensory issues which are very common in autism. She looked to be very high functioning but that was my first reaction as well. Otherwise I would have to assume she had mental health issues since that was the case with her Uncle. My reaction was from ten years of working with autistic children to young adults. Those on the Aspergers end of the spectrum can be very morbid and fascinated by it. They don't always recognize something is wrong but she could have had a comorbid condition. Let's face it she wasn't exactly in the right frame of mind from the binning of the story. When she had her birthday she had turned eighteen. Charlie and India were kindred spirits, regardless I hated the movie.
shareOld post but it needs to be reiterated.
I was shocked you thought she was autistic and she and the uncle were bonding sexually. Also, pedophilia refers to prepubescent children, not a 16 year old. 3rd, you must've missed India recalling her father taking her hunting to focus her urges, to prevent a greater evil. Same thing happened in Dexter. This is a Gothic tale about hereditary insanity or sociopathy similar to many 19th century novels. The father knew his brother was taken away because of it and recognized that his daughter inherited the same ailment. American viewers have to be hand fed everything, sheesh!
Totally agree with you. Not only disgusting,incestous too. Kissing brother's wife and molesting his niece. Repugnant. Anyways The ending was definitely good.
shareTo clarify - she's 18. This is pretty much an important part of the movie, and clearly stated by both Charlie and India.
shareTo clarify - she's 18. This is pretty much an important part of the 'why' of the movie, and clearly stated by both Charlie and India.
shareIt's a disgusting film which focuses on a molester or pedophile attempting to seduce a 16 year old autistic teenage girl whose family has a penchant for violence and gets sexually high off of it while they're killing people. I can't believe Nicole Kidman played in this very disturbing film.
Admittedly, I've only seen the film once, but my read of it was that he's not even her uncle (he is her father's former lover, who killed her father in a jealous rage). The film is pretty perverse, but not in a way that is uninteresting or offputting, and as you say, it's very much a coming of age story about a young girl blossoming into an adult serial killer.
share"[Charlie] is her father's former lover, who killed her father in a jealous rage" - ohdawg2002
But you see their childhood and them being brothers. Where did the former lover thing come from? It's actually almost a little interesting how people just pull these things, seemingly out of thin air
shareAgreed! The whole point was that Charlie was the younger brother of India's dad. Charlie was locked up in a mental institution as a child after having murdered his and Richard's youngest brother. Charlie didn't take it lightly that Richard wasn't going to take him to see India once he was released, so Charlie killed him, made it look like a car accident and then came to see India like he wanted to. So yeah, thin air indeed.
shareI would need to watch the movie again to say if that is what happened here (I pulled it out of thin air), but I was pretty sure at the time I posted it. Now I'm less so.
shareLol, where did that even come from? Haha!
shareI can't believe Nicole Kidman played in this very disturbing film.
Hahaha, he/she apparently hasn't seen Nicole in Eyes Wide Shut either!
Stoker, Dogville, Eyes Wide Shut, all fantastic movies in my opinion.
Stoker, Dogville, Eyes Wide Shut
The young woman in the movie is 18, not 16. Of course you wouldn't know that because you didn't bother to watch it all the way through. And your definition of "pedophile" is incorrect. You are a perfect example of why stupid people shouldn't review movies.
shareYou're a *beep* idiot gardenia! LMFAO!xdfop
shareagreed. I somehow finished it, but I wish I haven't even started in first place..
shareI am slightly intrigued by your post even if just two short sentences.
I know you didn't care for the movie but would you mind elaborating a little bit? The trailer seems odd but I planned on watching this on my DVR because it is only 90 minutes, figured it would be a quick watch.
However, I really don't like those overly disturbing movies that are there for that shock attention rather than substance, those that stick in your memory unfortunately as opposed to fondly.
Would you mind talking me out of this before I suffer from what you did?
The end.
It is a sick movie, I despised it. But how does one need to go for counselling by watching this? There are people like this who exist in reality. Few years ago, there was a news piece on how a man had his daughter locked up in his basement and forced her to have four of his children. Imagine what a creep he was. Every society has people like this. It's just just Americans are always out in the open and one form of medium they use is film to portray society. It would not have been made if the studio did not green light it obviously. Other societies hide and do their crap behind closed doors.
shareIt was a interesting film to watch and the "weirdness" kept me intrigued but it felt a bit thin, not much of a plot. More focus on looking beautiful than having a decent plot.
It wasn't bad and I don't regret watching it but not something I would watch again.
I happened to like the movie a lot more than I anticipated. I found it - artistic, original, subtle, different than I expected. Maybe I'm tired of all the action packed, gunfire he man cookie cutter movies my husband seems to watch a steady stream of.
Yes it could be called "disturbing" for sure. But personally it Doesn't stick in my mind for the disturbing aspect. I would suggest don't try to overanalyze it. Just watch it for what it is.
Why do people love murder so much? (In movies and TV) ? At least it has some thought to it to make you think instead of a million people getting shot and blown up over and over with new over the top Hollywood accoutrements.
The ending could be talked about and analyzed endlessly, perhaps without any clear conclusion. Maybe that's what is good about it. It makes you feel , think, and remember the artistic filmed settings. That's my impression.
If you love normal chick-flicks it probably isn't for you.
Also I'm pretty sure the running time was 2 hours?
I find this discussion hilarious because if THIS was too much then imagine how these people would react to Oldboy.
sharehaha, so true!
shareThe amount of close-minded people here is incredible. Art is supposed to explore the darkest corners of humanity. It's supposed to make you uncomfortable. And let's face it, sociopaths make for the most interesting characters, though not necessarily likable. But who said films need a likable protagonist?
You people are boring and sensitive, and I would never want to have a beer with you.
Yes, I agree but you're replying to the wrong person, I love this movie!
I agreed with CyberGhostface-1 the poster above me, if people have a hard time with the darkness in Stoker, I wonder how they'd go with the Sth Korean movie, Oldboy (Oldeuboi).
If you haven't seen it, it's one worth watching if you're not too sensitive and delicate. :D
I just saw this on Film 4. It was oddball and a dark piece of work. Then I looked on here and found it was by Chan Park Wook who makes very odd films indeed! As another poster said, if you found this dark please, for your own sake, don't watch Oldboy or Thirst!!!
shareI watched it too, it is a dark film
shareWell I liked it! it's not a great movie but not a bad one at the same time, I like the psychological things in it, how everything around India affect her and it looks like symptoms began to emerge to her father and that's why he took her with him for hunting, as what she said about her father "He used to say, sometimes you need to do something bad to stop you from doing something worse." what is Bad? "Hunting" and what is worse? "Psycho Killer" like her uncle!
Her Uncle Charlie appearance stimulated her condition and then became what she is at the end of the movie!
Good movie and I like it! :)
Sorry for my Bad English / English is not my tongue language :)