Gay couple dancing
I personally thought the gay couple dancing was a nice touch, and a nice nod to gay viewers like myself.
But how realistic would such a scene have been in those day and ages please
I personally thought the gay couple dancing was a nice touch, and a nice nod to gay viewers like myself.
But how realistic would such a scene have been in those day and ages please
Agreed, it was wonderful to see Lukas and Leo put their gay marriage on display for everyone to see. Their romantic twerking was so spiritual and existential ALL HAIL INARRITU
shareThey were gay? I thought it was just two drunk guys having a fun moment. That place wasn't exactly crawling with women.
Sorry to rain on the parade.
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Baahahahahahahahahahah omg I don't think I've laughed this much on here before LOL!!
You're going to disappoint them now
I believe this sort of thing was common in the old days when there would be a huge group of men and no women around with frontiersmen and pirates, etc. I don't think it meant they were necessarily gay. Probably drunk though.
I have seen other movies that had two guys dancing around when it was a big group of guys having fun. How is this any different?
CLARIFICATION: They were NOT Gay.
If there had been 2 Gay men at such a Fort who made this know Publicly (whether by dancing or any other means)?
They would have been Killed. Period. How can anyone not know this? It's an awful fact of 1823 thinking and the 'First Order Beleifs' of most everyone (rightfully called 'ugly, bigoted and ignorant prejudices' today).
How many men or women have been murdered in America during the 20th Century solely because they were Gay?
"How many men or women have been murdered in America during the 20th Century solely because they were Gay?"
How many people were murdered by homosexual psychopaths for no reason whatsoever?
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Maybe not, the English have tolerated homosexuality for hundreds of years, don't ask don't tell, and have had kings and other royalty with very gay relationships. Phrases like catamite or "confirmed bachelor" were accepted code. Now Oscar Wilde was jailed in the late 1800s for being gay but that was mainly because of the father of the younger man in that relationship.
shareMaybe not, the English have tolerated homosexuality for hundreds of years
Labouchere Amendmentshare
Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, commonly known as the Labouchere Amendment, made "gross indecency" a crime in the United Kingdom. In practice, the law was used broadly to prosecute male homosexuals where actual sodomy (meaning, in this context, anal intercourse) could not be proven. The penalty of life imprisonment for sodomy (until 1861 it had been death) was also so harsh that successful prosecutions were rare. The new law was much more enforceable. It was also meant to raise the age of consent for heterosexual intercourse. It was repealed by the Sexual Offences Act 1967, which partially decriminalized homosexual behaviour.
Most famously, Oscar Wilde was convicted under section 11 and sentenced to two years' hard labour, and Alan Turing was convicted under it and sentenced to estrogen injections (chemical castration) as an alternative to prison.
Not so much--check Alan Turing's history. And he was a war hero, father of the computer, just an ordinary genius.
shareNot so much yourself, atmegh. He was an extra-ordinary genius who happened to be gay and was convicted of having a homosexual relationship, charged with "gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Conviction_for_indecency
There were women in the camp, you see Indian women at the entrance.
Besides, I don't think they were gay, just drunk.
Conrad is right, wasn't homosexuality frowned on way back then. And don't anybody talk about the Romans or other ancient obsolete societies where it was sort of ok in the aristocracy and high society, i'm talking the old West.
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There is a famous Gold Rush era painting, somewhere out there, of a bunch of guys at a mining camp really cutting a rug together, while one guy plays the ocarina. As said above, there weren't a whole lot of women hanging around places like trapper outposts or mining towns.
If you see the WWII POW camp film. " Stalag 17" you will see a similar scene of a Christmas party in the Allied barracks, everybody primly doing the two step. Guys would dance together when women weren't available because dancing wasn't always necessarily seen as a courtship ritual -- just as a way to have fun. Heck, in some societies they don't even allow people of the opposite sex to dance together.
Having said that-- there are anecdotes from ( say) Barbary Coast era San Francisco, Gold Rush era Alaska, and other places that suggest that this relaxed attitude toward male intimacy made it easier for actual gay men to be more overt in their relationships. Relatively, at least.