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An American Remake with Sylvester Stallone


I must admit that I have mixed feelings about this. While on the one hand I don't think that any remake can make this movie any better, the thing it will definitely do is draw attention to the original.

And Sly in the lead... If Santos was here, he would b***slap him and order another whiskey. Or Sly is the perfect guy for this, with one foot already in the grave, desperately trying to stay in the spot light and pretty hectic personal life...

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Sly 10 years younger would have fit the remake. Jose Coronado is just brilliant as Santos Trinidad. It will be a shame to remake this fine thriller. movie is destined to be a cult classic in the future.

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I didn't understand this one. What was Trinidad's deal? Was he a dirty cop? Why did he murder those people in the bar in the beginning? Why was he so dead-set on finding and stopping those arab dudes if he was a dirty cop? If we're supposed to think he's a secret government operative why does his tradecraft suck so hard? Why doesn't he ever share info/get some backup?

Very frustrating movie. Waited two hours for some answers and didn't get any.

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"Why was he so dead-set on finding and stopping those arab dudes if he was a dirty cop?"

He was only trying to find (and kill) the one younger man that got away from the bar, because the younger man could identify him. That younger man just so happened to be a part of a terrorist group that was planning a bombing.

The detective couldn't allow anyone to know that he was searching for the younger man.

"Why did he murder those people in the bar in the beginning?"

Because he has a history of (accidentally) killing "bad guys", and a history of mental problems (which were revealed during the interrogation). During his interrogation she brought up a past incident, and his response was that "his gun just went off".

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I think he killed them because he knew them from when he was stationed in Colombia. At least the bar owner. I don't think it was a mistake. By the way, I give this movie a 9. I take a point away for not explaining the motivation for his shooting in the beginning.

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I don't think so. I think that he killed the owner because he killed first the henchman, because this one draw his gun, because Trinidad assaulted the owner instinctively. He assaulted the owner when the owner attempted to appease him, as he noticed that Trinidad disliked him (the gesture of wasting the booze was utterly rude).

He assaulted the owner, the henchman tried to kill Trinidad, Trinidad drew his gun first and killed the henchman. Then he realised that he had went too far, and decided to kill all the witnesses: first the waitress, then the owner. Then he noticed the cam and searched for the recording, finding another witness who escaped.

The movies goes around Trinidad desperately trying to find the last witness. He stumbled onto the terrorists by chance.

P.S.: I'm so disgusted because this movie got only 6'4.

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Yeah I'm shocked this movie has a 6.4 as well since this movie was pretty f'n awesome. I wish there were more movies like this!

Are there any other movies similar to this destined to be cult classic movie?

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Aiarakoa's summary was my take on the whole sequence of events as well.

I'm also very disappointed in the low IMDB score.

My biggest fear of the Stallone remake is that the producers/writers/directors (I'm not sure how the movie making process works), will try to inject some sort of "noble purpose" into the triple homicide at the beginning. I get the feeling that there will be some sort of scene to show the people being killed as "really bad" guys, who deserve to be murdered. One of the more amazing aspects of the original, for myself, was there is a certain point in the movie where I started to hope he would accomplish his goals, and then realized that means he gets away with a triple homicide.

Uh, should we have /spoiler warning'd this stuff?

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Amazing film. I agree with your take on it. There's definitely an intriguing history behind Trinidad, and the fact that it remains unsaid adds to the intrigue in my opinion. I find it hard to buy the story that he's simply looking for a witness that

My own view is that he is avenging the death of his partner in Colombia (who, we are told, he accidentally shot). I think there's a lot more to that story than we are told. The odds that all of this is coincidence is just far too unlikely, and actually, if that were the case, I think the film would be vastly inferior. Instead, there are so many implications that he has some involvement or history with the traffickers.

His myopic attitude towards his job reinforces that this was a one way mission. He didn't have any expectation to resume work afterwards. And besides, it must have been clear that the witness wasn't going to turn him in or else he had plenty of opportunity to do so.

Perhaps the reason he was drinking so heavily at the beginning (before going to the bar), was to give him the dutch courage to execute the people in the bar. I don't know. So much to explore here!

This film just got better and better. By the end I was utterly absorbed. Terrific stuff.


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